Hi-Point at the Range


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dbarile
December 28, 2008, 09:31 PM
About a month ago I picked up a Hi-Point pistol. I had heard a lot about them both hot and cold, and I had not really considered them as an option. However, I was in the gun shop, and just had to take the opportunity to try it out. I liked the heft of the slide for some reason, and the price was right, so I picked it up.

In my four or five trips to the range with it since then, I have fired about 500 rounds of ammo through it. Obviously my experiences with it are just that, my experiences and are in no way scientific.

I had trouble finding a comfortable grip at first. It seemed my hands were just too big for the gun; after some trial and error, I found a position that seemed natural to me.

The trigger isn't the greatest. I always felt like the first round was the worst. This might be just me though. The pull seems long compared to other similar guns.

Accuracy? Well, with a pistol, I'm kinda like Jack Elam in Rio Lobo. "Don't mind if I shoot do you? It makes me feel better." I can keep 'em on the plastic dinner plate at 15 yards; don't ask for much else one, reason for all the range time. Practice.

Ugly? I'll leave that to the individual, I'm kind of ambivalent about its looks.

I guess the thing that impressed me the most was that it has never failed to cycle a round. No matter what ammo, (all production no reloads) I've never had a round that didn't cycle & fire. I was expecting at least some feed issues with a new auto loader. This may stand out in my mind because my also new Ruger Mark III seems to be extremely picky about ammo. My CZ P01 hasn't made it through the same number of rounds without giving up the ghost (This isn't a swipe at CZ just my experience).

I think I'll reserve judgment until I reach the 1000 round mark, but so far, I'm liking it.

Just my 2 cents.

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Jim K
December 28, 2008, 09:41 PM
Hi, dbarile,

You have really goofed! Hundreds of people will now descend on you, yelling and screaming that you risked your life by even firing a Hi Point! Don't you know that according to the "conventional wisdom" they blow up, fall apart, split in half, or explode in a radioactive mushroom cloud?

I have the above on the word of experts who say they know all that, even though they have never owned, fired or even seen a Hi Point!

Seriously, Hi Points are not pretty, but they actually are reasonably accurate and extremely reliable. I hope you will give us that 1000 round report.

Jim

HB
December 28, 2008, 09:43 PM
Cool, I still want one :D

The Lone Haranguer
December 28, 2008, 09:50 PM
I guess the thing that impressed me the most was that it has never failed to cycle a round. No matter what ammo, (all production no reloads) I've never had a round that didn't cycle & fire.
:what: No way!

Reliability is 95% of the criteria for what constitutes a good pistol.

Jim K
December 28, 2008, 09:58 PM
Hi, dbarile,

I told you, they are coming with pitchforks and torches!

(For a defense pistol I want 100% reliability, I don't care if the gun is engraved, gold plated, has a precision trigger or seven kinds of rails; if it doesn't work it is junk that can only get me killed.)

Jim

The Lone Haranguer
December 28, 2008, 10:04 PM
Price is not always a guarantor of quality. I paid over six times as much for a pistol that still malfunctioned and broke anyway.

herohog
December 28, 2008, 10:10 PM
Price is not always a guarantor of quality.
Truer words were never spoken!

eng23ine
December 28, 2008, 10:23 PM
I have several friends that have had several Hi points over the years....




and I have NEVER seen one malfunction.

bgeddes
December 28, 2008, 10:32 PM
This may stand out in my mind because my also new Ruger Mark III seems to be extremely picky about ammo.

Pitch forks and torch crowd will come for this comment too. Although I have also seen this issue in person.

I like the Hi-points as long as I don't have to look at them....

rondog
December 28, 2008, 10:39 PM
Been thinking about one to stash in the garage someplace.

Matrix187
December 28, 2008, 10:46 PM
Price is not always a guarantor of quality. I paid over six times as much for a pistol that still malfunctioned and broke anyway.
I agree. Look at the price of SKS's (in the past especially).

Prepster
December 28, 2008, 11:18 PM
My experience has been similar. Mine is like a rock (physically and metaphorically), and is just as reliable as any other semi-auto I've encountered. I like my other guns better, but I'd feel comfortable carrying it if I didn't have something with better ergonomics. As far as I'm concerned the biggest drawback is that they make Glocks look pretty by comparison.

MaterDei
December 28, 2008, 11:25 PM
Hi-Points are fine for some but I just don't have the urge to buy one of their pistols. I do want one of their carbines though.

Jim, I'm not slamming Hi-Points so please don't try and add this comment to one of your hundreds. fwiw, I feel the same way about hi-points that I do about Glocks. Nothing necessarily wrong with them, I just don't like them.

Jbabbler
December 29, 2008, 05:45 AM
My only experience with a High Point was a few weeks ago. I was at the range and a kid holding his pants up with one hand came in and set up in the lane next to us. He loaded the magazine and fired a few shots at his target before having a failure to feed. After about 3 more FTFs I peeked over as he shot and saw him in a sort of modified isosceles stance squatting real low to keep his pants from falling and he held the gun sideways. After his 3rd ftf I offered to help him. He handed me his HP 9mm and the first thing I noticed was the weight of the slide. I looked the gun over and saw that while it wasn't exactly pretty, it did seem to be well constructed, almost tank-like. The second thing was that he was shooting hollow points with a very sharp serrated edge (have no idea what brand) and they were jamming on the ramp. I offered him a magazine full of Atlanta Ammo reloads and suggested a better stance and grip. After that I saw a that he was getting most of his shots on the paper and the misfeeds stopped. He ended up buying me a box of 50 9mm target loads for helping him.

legion3
December 29, 2008, 07:13 AM
Been thinking about one to stash in the garage someplace.


Well that would be the best place for it...maybe as a shower/bathroom gun too, maybe hiding behind the toilet as that would make it feel at home. ;)

Well at least its not a sigma so you got that going for ya. :D

ulflyer
December 29, 2008, 09:24 AM
Was in local gun show recently and he had a 45acp in the
case for $168. Was sorely tempted to buy it just to see
what all the hoopla, good and bad, was about. Might just do that. Be worth it just to hear all the hootin and hollering! :evil:

rondog
December 29, 2008, 01:22 PM
FWIW - I have two HP carbines, a 9mm and a .40, and they both rock! TONS of fun! No experience with the pistols though. Yet.

Lariatbob
December 30, 2008, 08:58 PM
I picked up a cw-9 a few months ago, just because it could be had for $100.
Been rock solid and a good shooter. I keep it in my truck safe, it keeps my j-frame company when I can't take my j-frame with me into a store.

Decent, ugly, yada yada yada, we all have discussed these before.

I, for one, am glad to have it.

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