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Erik Jensen
September 24, 2003, 09:47 PM
so, in November, I'm getting my vacation check from work. I'm planning on buying another gun, since I notice two gaping holes in my collection, such as it is. I own neither a 1911, nor a Sport Utility Rifle. so, I've been looking at either getting a NRM Colt 1991A1 (blued) or some sort of relatively mil-spec SUR. my price ceiling is ~$700. what do y'all think I should get? if I get a rifle, I was thinking of either an AR15, an AR180B, or perhaps a high-quality variant of the AK. think of the rifle, if you choose a rifle, as a "if you could only own one" type deal.

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Mark Tyson
September 24, 2003, 09:59 PM
Spend money? Sure I'll help you spend money. First I'd like a Robinson Arms VEPR in 7.62 x 39 mm. It's the best AK clone out there . . .

What? Oh you mean it's for YOU? Oh. I see. Well, gee, I don't know. Get a Kimber Pro Carry 1911 style pistol. They're a little more than 700$ though.

Don't get an AR15. I own several, but they're overrated and too expensive. I'm actually thinking abuot selling all but 1 off(and I swore I'd never sell any of my guns!) Get the AR180 - it's a much better .223 caliber, more reliable, lighter, cheaper, just plain better. I recommend an AK clone over either the AR180 or AR15, but that's just me. Lots of guys love the AR and I'm sure they'll tell you I'm smoking crack. For AK clones, the Romanian SAR-1 is a good un', cheaper than the VEPR. Mags are and ammo are cheap and easy. The SAR-2 is neat too, but ammo (5.45 mm) is hard to find.

Snake Eyes
September 24, 2003, 10:14 PM
SUR: Bulgarian SLR-95--They're accurate, around $600, milled not stamped receiver, no trigger slap and the ultimate evil black furniture. Because then you have the real thing. After that you can go buy all the fancy better-and-cheaper/more expensive-than imitations. But get a real one first.

1911: Lovingly used Colt 70 series in any of many configurations, but only a Colt. Because then you have the real thing. After that you can go buy all the fancy better-and-cheaper/more expensive-than imitations. But get a real one first.

Just my 2 Yen.

:D

(Editted to remove a "my-bad" statement about the SLRs being "Pre-Ban". One day I'll learn to do research BEFORE posting. Naaww...)

Erik Jensen
September 25, 2003, 12:10 AM
I might add that I'm a big fan of "as close to mil-spec as possible" firearms. the only exception is that if I get a 1911, it must be blued, because of what I want to do with it eventually (hard chrome or nickel plating)

MuzzleBlast
September 25, 2003, 10:11 AM
For a new 1911, for <= $700, you can't beat a Springfield.
For a black rifle, that amount will get you an entry-level Bushie.

Erik
September 25, 2003, 12:42 PM
If you appreciate the venerable 1911 but do not have one, I say that it is high time you rectified that.

(A rifle, while certainly a "must," jus't isn't as much of a must as a 1911.)

simon
September 25, 2003, 12:56 PM
Daewoo DR200, .223 and a very nice rifle and great shooter.Not too expensive.

ddc
September 25, 2003, 04:54 PM
I think that if you are leaning towards .223/5.56 for your "SUR" I'd suggest an AR15 as your first rifle in this category.

I'll say up front that I have no experience with either the AR180B or the Daewoo so keep that in mind.

It is a flexible platform with more aftermarket options (AFAIK) than either the Daewoo or the AR180B.

Then once you find yourself with a little more disposable income you can branch out and pick up the Daewoo or the Armalite as variations on the theme.

One thing to keep in mind is that I think I've heard that the Daewoo is no longer imported and that parts availability may be a problem. Maybe someone else will chime in and either confirm or deny that.

Amish
November 1, 2003, 03:49 PM
I learned that the DR200 was banned because of the Clinton 98 or 99 law that limites imported rifle capacity to 10rnds. That's why the USR is also banned. That's why we still get HK SL8 rifles and the single stack AK47's coming in.

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