Convert to Lock-n-Load system?


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AbitNutz
January 1, 2009, 02:16 PM
Ok...I give up. I've not messed with nor seen the Lock-n-Load die switching system but the pictures seem very self explanatory. What doesn't seem completely obvious to me is the bushing conversion kit for other presses. How does that work? You'd have to have a press with a removable bushing to do this, right?

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DickM
January 1, 2009, 04:22 PM
Yes, that's it - your press has to have a bushing that can be taken out (my understanding is that most if not all of them do). You screw out the old bushing, which was threaded for standard reloading dies (7/8 - 14, as I recall) and screw in the new LnL female bushing, which stays with the press and accepts the LnL male bayonet-mount bushings (one needed for each die), which are threaded on the inside to take the die. Entire procedure took about a minute on my Rockchucker for the changeover, and then a bit more time to readjust each die.

snuffy
January 1, 2009, 04:41 PM
The LNL bushing concept is a solution to a non-existent problem. All it does is prevent having to screw each die into a press. Are we so lazy that we can't screw a die into a press? Or is it that somebody is in such a big hurry, you don't want to spend a minute? Then we see on here and other websites, where the LNL bushings or the female adapter are so poorly machined, that they work loose during use. You really solved on non-problem to creat a real one! Genius!

Walkalong
January 1, 2009, 06:23 PM
The LNL bushing concept is a solution to a non-existent problem.I thought the same thing when it first came out. It only takes a couple of minutes to change out the dies on my Projector.

All it does is prevent having to screw each die into a press. Are we so lazy that we can't screw a die into a press? Yep, same reason Dillon and Lee have extra heads so folks can just swap the whole head out in seconds. We are lazy. Or are we just smart with our time? :)

GaryL
January 2, 2009, 12:54 PM
Yep, same reason Dillon and Lee have extra heads so folks can just swap the whole head out in seconds. We are lazy. Or are we just smart with our time?You might be on to something there. Some of us spend a fair amount of time getting the dies adjusted just right, and don't want to have to go through the whole process again a week later. Makes the toolhead seem like a real bargain.

TEDDY
January 2, 2009, 02:42 PM
snuffy is right but for wrong reason:the LNL was made because the press can't be made to take turrets.to me the turret is better because you always have the same adjustment in change overs.The RCBS RC is a good press,so are ALL the others.but the Lee turret is conveniant and inexpensive.I do have all brands.lyman/rcbs/bonanza/lee/herter,no hornady or redding presses.just got the others first.:rolleyes::uhoh::eek::D

snuffy
January 2, 2009, 08:35 PM
You might be on to something there. Some of us spend a fair amount of time getting the dies adjusted just right, and don't want to have to go through the whole process again a week later.

Why would you have to re-adjust your dies once they're adjusted? Once you have the adjustment, lock the set screw, you're done! When finished using that die, simply unscrew it, it stays set. That's why they're called die lock rings.

rfwobbly
January 2, 2009, 08:52 PM
I agree, LNL is pretty lame. That's the worst thing I've ever seen from Hornady.

BigJakeJ1s
January 2, 2009, 09:04 PM
LNL bushings are like an infinite-hole turret. You never run out of room on the turret plate. Additional Lee turret plates aren't too bad, but some of the others are quite expensive.

The nearly horizontal bearing surfaces of the LNL sleeve/bushing, together with the o-ring, allow the die to float laterally without tilting, for self-alignment with the cartridge. Lateral float in threaded dies (as Lee hypes with their lock-less rings) imparts a corresponding tilt to the die, which hinders self alignment.

All we really need are Lee loaders. Reloading presses are just a tool for the lazy... Turrets & progressive presses? wow those users are really lazy.

I use a Forster co-ax with it's own quick change die retention system. I just have to use Forster, Hornady, or the old, clamp style, RCBS lock rings with it.

Andy

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