Myth Busters Show- Shooting Locks


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lionking
January 1, 2009, 02:31 PM
Im watching it right now,just ended on them busting a hollywood myth were they shoot open locks with handguns.

They shot pad locks and dead bolts with a 9mm and .357 magnum and neither opened the locks,the locks were still secure though dented.Then they used a 12 gauge slug and a M1Garand.The rifle and shotgun slug both blew apart the locks.

Although with the M1 and shotgun slug shrapnel went everywhere so not exactly safe to do at close range it seems.Really love that show and that was a interesting myth busted.:cool:Another interesting show was when they tried different things to distract a guard dog.

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gvnwst
January 1, 2009, 02:35 PM
I haven't seen that, but with a "regular" padlock, a 9mm FMJ or a .357 would go right through it, personal experiance. They would have broken the lock if it had been done right. Mostly the energy shears the parts, they don't actually put a hole in it. (pistol rounds that is) Shotgun slugs do work well though:evil:

22lr
January 1, 2009, 02:35 PM
Love the show. And you must admit that their taste for guns (the M-1) is a nice touch.

helz_mcfugly
January 1, 2009, 02:37 PM
I saw that one. very informative. I love that show.

General Geoff
January 1, 2009, 02:39 PM
Did they shoot the locks from a distance? Or did they shoot the pistols from above, down at the lock bodies, at contact distance? This would be the most likely way to defeat a padlock with a pistol.

22lr
January 1, 2009, 02:41 PM
Shooting a lock down like that is a good way to fill your pants with lock parts. They shot them just strait on.

General Geoff
January 1, 2009, 02:43 PM
While that's true, it's still the most effective way to defeat the lock. From what I understand, it's also standard procedure for lock busting in the sandbox, with soldiers who use pump action shotguns with frangible ammo to destroy padlocks for building entry.

helz_mcfugly
January 1, 2009, 02:44 PM
strait on from behind a protected plate. yea im sure if you shoot one up close there will be blood.

lionking
January 1, 2009, 02:49 PM
What I didn't catch was which brand of locks they used,that may or may not make a difference.With the dead bolts though,it wasn't so much that the round broke the lock,it just blew it out the back of the door.

leadcounsel
January 1, 2009, 02:51 PM
Here's pictures of my test, with 9mm and .40 handgun rounds from a CZ and Glock respectively.

Handgun rounds can penetrate the cheap aluminum combo gym lockers. They aren't very effective against hardened locks. But I suppose several well placed shots would ultimately break it.

Rifles and 12 gauges obliterate the locks, but the locks themselves at least held together enough to not "pop" open and would have required a follow up shot. The first two are 7.62x39 rounds, the second shots are 9mm or .40. The 9mm and .40 performed about the same, punching a hole in the aluminum and denting the hardened locks.

.38 Special
January 1, 2009, 02:54 PM
Wasn't it MasterLock that used to advertise the strength of their locks by showing one being struck by a bullet? The hole went all the way through, but the lock stayed locked. At least on the ad...

leadcounsel
January 1, 2009, 02:55 PM
This is from a 7.62x39 on the lock arm, and 12 gauge on the body.

General Geoff
January 1, 2009, 02:59 PM
That torn shackle is interesting. Basically what that tells me is that with at least an intermediate rifle cartridge, instead of trying to blow apart the lock itself, you can just cut the shackle in half. Probably a bit harder to line up that shot though.

Poprivit
January 1, 2009, 04:14 PM
I shot a Master padlock with my Ruger .458 Lott (500-gr. bullet, 2250 fps, 5800 ME) Maybe the pieces are still in this ZIP code, however I highly doubt it. I was 70 yards away and behind cover. There was a nice piece of lock stuck in the facing side of the tree after the blast.

Dean Williams
January 1, 2009, 05:15 PM
My brother in law used to own a lock shop, and I did the "Master Lock test" for him. I used the medium-large size laminated Master Lock, the size that is about 1 3/4" wide, and an identical looking Master knock-off brand made in China.
The handgun I used was a Blackhawk in 45LC, loaded with 260 gr Speer HP over charge of H110 for a velocity of about 1100 fps. (Not a safe load for Colts and similar revolvers).

The round went right through the Master, blowing the tumbler out the bottom of the lock, but the rivets that hold the plates together were still present, and the lock remained locked.
The imitation Master was destroyed completely, the plates all being released from their rivets and the shackle lying by itself at the base of the tree that was being use as a back stop.

Mythbusters is a fun show to watch, but I don't trust many of their conclusions. I believe they said you would be safe from a 50BMG bullet if you were submersed in just one meter of water. I might be remembering that wrong, though.
I couldn't believe they it when they thought an airplane wouldn't take off if it had a piece of canvas being pulled under it in the opposite direction. This just seemed really elementary to me, and they were amazed when the plane took off. Duh.

GregGry
January 1, 2009, 05:29 PM
((I couldn't believe they it when they thought an airplane wouldn't take off if it had a piece of canvas being pulled under it in the opposite direction. This just seemed really elementary to me, and they were amazed when the plane took off. Duh.)))


Actually the pilot was the one that thought the plane wouldn't take off. They demonstrated numerous times why the plane will take off, and they had that opinion from the start of the show.

As far as the 50cal test, no material made it into the ballistics gell which was about 3 feet under water. The bullet just blew up, much like the other high velocity bullets. I have my doubts that your head would be able to handle the shockwave that the 50 created, it would probably blow your ear drums up, however their test showed that the bullet would likely do no damage.

dagger dog
January 1, 2009, 05:31 PM
What I could never figure out, is how the bandit that shoots the lock off the strongbox kept all his toes:confused:

ar10
January 1, 2009, 05:45 PM
What I could never figure out, is how the bandit that shoots the lock off the strongbox kept all his toes

He didn't have any in the first place. :D

heron
January 1, 2009, 05:52 PM
Here:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot5.htm

also look up "breaching rounds."

Dean Williams
January 1, 2009, 06:23 PM
Oh, the pilot.. Thanks Greg.

GregGry
January 1, 2009, 06:31 PM
The pilot must have no idea how air planes work, since he thought it wouldn't take off. Kind of scarry if you ask me

heron
January 1, 2009, 06:54 PM
And, back on topic . . . you can always ignore the lock and take off the whole door . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ul9wzkg5gI

Simon says, "Open door!"

nwilliams
January 1, 2009, 07:12 PM
Mythbusters is one of my favorite shows. I've seen every episode since the first season began.


Oh yeah, the lock shooting segment was pretty good, I've seen it done before. Any episode where Kari is shooting guns is a good episode, she makes shooting look sexy:D

lionking
January 1, 2009, 07:22 PM
Kari is so hot:cool:,and they seem to use a Garand often in their show.It is a marathon day on the show and they just shot a propane tank with a Garand,but the myth of James Bond shooting one with a 9mm was busted!

Great selection of photos with that lock test thanks!

zoom6zoom
January 1, 2009, 08:25 PM
I believe they said you would be safe from a 50BMG bullet if you were submersed in just one meter of water.
Yes. But it has to be frozen.

Grassman
January 1, 2009, 08:28 PM
That show is great.......they do a lot of gun related myths from time to time.

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