Woman shoots friend with 'pen' gun


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2dogs
September 25, 2003, 06:36 AM
Do they have these in a .45?


http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,7364933%255E421,00.html

Woman shoots friend with 'pen'
By Peter Jean

25sep03

A WOMAN picked up what she thought was a pen from the floor of a Canberra nightclub and accidentally shot her friend, police said yesterday.

The pen was a cleverly disguised gun, banned in Australia but is advertised on overseas websites.

The victim was hit in the chest with a projectile which had to be surgically removed, police said.

Police ballistics experts were still examining the projectile but believed it was made from some sort of metal.

Pen guns are commonly loaded with 0.22 calibre bullets.

Federal Police Detective Constable Naomi Binstead said the incident, which happened about two weeks ago, highlighted the dangers of pen guns.

"The pen gun was on the floor and was picked up," Const Binstead said in a statement.

"The victim's friend was playing with a spring on the pen gun when a small projectile was fired towards her friend and hit her."

A police spokesman said pen guns were usually handmade but the gun in the nightclub shooting appeared to have been engineered professionally.

Pen guns are banned in Australia but overseas websites advertise them as being available by mail order.

They are typically about 14 centimetres long and can also resemble tubular cigar-holders.

The nightclub shooting comes after pen guns were found during searches of jails in NSW and Victoria earlier this year.

A Sydney man appeared in Liverpool Local Court in July charged with murdering a school student with a pen gun.

Gun Control Australia president John Crook said it was difficult for Customs authorities and Australia Post to detect something as small as a gun concealed in a pen.

He said they were probably mostly brought into the country as souvenirs.

"(The greatest) likelihood is that these come in on people who want to show off," Mr Crook told reporters.

A NSW police spokeswoman urged anyone with a pen gun to surrender it as part of the gun amnesty which begins in the state on October 1.

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shermacman
September 25, 2003, 10:49 AM
From the article:
"Gun Control Australia president John Crook said..."
You can't make this stuff up.

HankB
September 25, 2003, 10:55 AM
Pen guns are banned in Australia but overseas websites advertise them as being available by mail order. In which countries can you order guns through the mail? Mail order gun sales were banned in the USA in 1968, and a firearm disguised as a pen would be considered an "AOW" anyway . . . and most, if not all, PacRim countries have stricter gun laws than we do.

geekWithA.45
September 25, 2003, 10:57 AM
Yeah, they have them in .45acp, but they're defined as an "any other weapon", and so you need all that paperwork.

cslinger
September 25, 2003, 11:05 AM
This doesn't necessarliy have to have been a legally produced and procurred item. It appeared to be engineered professionally but I know people who are incredible metal workers etc. who would have no problem making something like this.

Now I am no engineer but I think I could make a reasonably decent "PEN GUN" capable of firing a single centerfire round say .32, 9mm size.

I mean we are only talking about a tube(barrel), a spring, a striker, some kind of cocking mechanism for said spring and striker and some kind of releasing mechanism for the above and that could simply be pull back and let go.

Now It might not be the safest thing in the world and I certainly wouldn't do any such thing not only because of the law but because I have an affinity for my fingers but in a country like Australia you have to figure that hidden, disguised or home made firearms are going to start popping up.

DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT NOR HAVE I EVER TRIED TO MAKE ANY WEAPONS LIKE THIS. I LIKE MY FINGERS, I LIKE MY FREEDOM, I LIKE MY EYE SIGHT. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME IF YOU ARE AS ATTACHED TO THE ABOVE AS I AM. I AM JUST SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ENGINEERING PROBLEM ON THE SCALE OF SHIP BUILDING HERE.

Chris

gun-fucious
September 25, 2003, 11:25 AM
http://stingerpengun.com/images/pistol1small.jpg

a buddy has a stinger pen gun

it is nearly impossible to not sweep the room with its muzzle
and i knew it was a gun

now thats a knife:
http://www.stingerpengun.com/knifegun.htm

Kentucky Rifle
September 25, 2003, 02:31 PM
Anybody know if they're durable?

Thanks,
KR

iamhistory
September 25, 2003, 02:39 PM
You know what they say.....the pen is mightier than the sword. But seriously,
this is nothing to "write" home about. :rolleyes:

Penforhire
September 25, 2003, 04:20 PM
Careful with the eraser, you might really get rubbed out...

powderific
September 25, 2003, 04:51 PM
Police ballistics experts were still examining the projectile but believed it was made from some sort of metal.

:rolleyes: Does this make anyone else wonder about how knowledgeable these experts are? :rolleyes:

Standing Wolf
September 25, 2003, 09:22 PM
Does this make anyone else wonder about how knowledgeable these experts are?

Nope. Either they're complete nitwits, the reporter is a complete nitwit, or both.

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