Blackhawk CQC/Serpa


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Timradcliffe345
January 4, 2009, 03:02 PM
Anyone used the Blackhawk Serpa or the CQC? Do you like it? Is it easy to conceal under a shirt/jacket? THanks.

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Ringer
January 4, 2009, 03:19 PM
I have one for my G19. I like the holster for around the house carry or set up for cross draw in the car. For me though it's not that easy to conceal. It doesn't hold the gun tight to the body like I prefer for concealed carry. Under a jacket probably OK, not so much under a shirt. Oh and the paddle function I find useless as it's harder to remove than just using the belt configuration.

HTH, we'll see what others have to say.

michiganfan
January 4, 2009, 04:14 PM
I could never master pushing the release button. Would get it right 9/10 but you need 10/10.

ModificationVt
January 4, 2009, 05:38 PM
its a great holster, but like it was stated before it does not hold as close to the body as I would like...its ok if I am wearing my vest, or a longer winter jacket, and not planning on taking it off. for OC they are great holsters. (some people say you need level 3 for OC, I feel confident with the Level 2...)

9mmepiphany
January 4, 2009, 06:42 PM
i like mine for use during training classes and of casual duty carry. i'll also use it for CCW after a class if i'm too lazy to change holsters...i just throw on an unbuttoned workshirt or hoodie.

it does stick out more that my Comp-Tac, but that's what makes it such a great teaching holster.

i usually use the paddle attachment, because it allows a larger placement range.

the trick to using the Serpa release is not to think about it. if you're drawing correctly, the release is automatic

possum
January 4, 2009, 07:43 PM
i had one for my xd service model they are neat holsters, they do not conceal well enough for my liking, i gave mine to a friend that needed a holster.

as well i am not a fan of retention devices on a ccw holster, even if it would have concealed well, it served me best as a range holster, and since i train as i fight there is no reason to use one holster at the range and another while i carry.

Spencer5883
January 4, 2009, 09:32 PM
this is my current open carry holster and it works well for me. As others have stated it doesnt hold very close to the body, which makes it difficult to use concealed.

as far as the retention device goes it works well for me and i find im faster with it than with some of my other holsters

overall i think its a great holster, but there are better options out there for concealment

Hk Dan
January 5, 2009, 02:09 PM
The CQC is a level 1 holster--no button, right? I have that one for GLOCK, and it is a nice holster for competition. I wouldn't use it for carry (too bulky), but for USPSA or IDPA, it has everything you need. It's adjustable for cant and retention, doesn't ding up the gun like a Fobus, and comes with belt and paddle attachments. The price is right (Optics Planet, $23.00)

Dan

Brian41
January 5, 2009, 09:25 PM
good info here... its definitely not an ideal concealment holster form my experience, the comp-tac adjustable cant paddle would be a much better option for that in my opinoin. BUT for a holster i was planning on using for OC (and some rare CC under a jacket or hoodie), and for Range time, it's a GREAT holster.

I couldn't be more pleased with it (unless i had purchased it from opticsplanet for 1/2 the price i paid... DOH!!!)

chris in va
January 6, 2009, 08:54 PM
I have one for my Sig 220.

The mechanism works fine, snicks in and out with little effort. Fits my gun reasonably well with little rocking.

I got tired of how far it sticks out and got a CompTac. Closer to the body but still quite uncomfortable to wear. The paddle just digs right into my hip.

The most comfortable one I have is a Galco with a flat inner face and thumbsnap.

sefus
January 7, 2009, 03:35 PM
there is a reason serpa holsters are banned from certain training classes.

In the concealed cary magazine december issue (i think) there was a good rundown of retention holsters that could also be concealed. Might do a search for that and when I get home I'll take a look at the article again.

codybrown
January 7, 2009, 03:56 PM
I use one for open carry with my M&P 40c. The holster is meant for the full size M&P but it works out great for the subcompact.

9mmepiphany
January 7, 2009, 04:46 PM
there is a reason serpa holsters are banned from certain training classes.

which classes would those be?

Huddog
January 7, 2009, 06:12 PM
For what its worth I also like the holster and have no problem with the release. I do not like the paddle as I can't get it on and off easily which is the primary purpose for a paddle anyhow. I'm ok with it under a open shirt worn over a t-shirt or under a jacket but it is not good for or intended for deep cover. I also find that although mine is for my G-26 it also works with my G-17.

Erik
January 31, 2009, 11:14 PM
"which classes would those be?"

A quick search revealed the following do not allow SERPA holsters:

Tactical Response
Georgia Public Safety Training Center
Gabe Suarez

I spent about 2 minutes of search time. There may be more.

I'm a trainer, and I see a higher rate of unintentional contact with the trigger among SERPA users than other makes and models of holster users. So far it has not led to any NDs with live rounds; with training rounds and a bit of stress, yes.

Erik
January 31, 2009, 11:25 PM
On SERPA holsters in general:

They are affordable, fast, secure, off-set relatively far from the body, and somewhat controversial because of the seeming reality that a certain percentage of users seem to find their trigger fingers inadvertently engaging the trigger immediately upon clearing the holster; a matter of training, ergonomics relative to hand size, possibly both. Note: "Engaging" does not mean to the point of firing; though that's been documented, certainly.

They are also prone to failure under hard use. That's assuming you lock-tighted the screws. You lock-tighted the screws, right? If not, you may not make it to hard use. A bit of searching the net may be in order. Perhaps no other make and model of holster has as much unwanted "press."

As with many things, it may be a case of getting what you pay for.

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