Calling all Ohio People!! and anyone else who wants to show support


September 25, 2003, 03:09 PM

Man to put gun, debate in open


By Jane Prendergast
The Cincinnati Enquirer

A Northside man suing for the right to carry concealed weapons will strap his handgun on his hip Sept. 28 and lead a group of like-minded gun owners up and down his neighborhood streets.

Vernon Ferrier ishoping his "Gun Walk'' might light a fire under the Ohio Supreme Court in Columbus, where justices have been considering the concealed-carry issue for five months.

"I'd like to kick them off the fence,'' he said. "We haven't heard anything since April.''

He's also trying to make the point, he said, that carrying openly is ridiculous and defeats the goal of being able to surprise a would-be criminal. And while he says he's not trying to taunt the police, he also wants to prove it is legal to carry a weapon openly. Officers, he said, initially told him he couldn't.

"I'd like for that 80-year-old woman walking down the street to be able to have a gun in her purse,'' Ferrier said. "It doesn't work the same if she's got it out where someone can see it.''

Ferrier is part of a group of Cincinnatians that sued every municipality in Hamilton County, the city of Cincinnati, the county and the state in July 2000, charging that the ban on concealed weapons violates their constitutional rights.

Northside is a neighborhood keenly aware of the concealed-carry debate.

In May, resident and citizens-on-patrol member Hal McKinney, shot a man in Junker's Tavern during a robbery. The shooting - and the grand jury's decision not to indict McKinney - drew national attention.

Chuck Klein, another plaintiff in the suit, hadn't heard of Ferrier's plan.

"I don't think anybody can hurry the Supreme Court up,'' he said.

Ferrier, a 62-year-old hairdresser in Hyde Park, notified Cincinnati police of his plan.

"Just as long as they don't break the law,'' said Lt. Kurt Byrd, spokesman for the department.

Ferrier will start at 1 p.m. on Florida Avenue with a safety meeting. He wants to make sure "no one even jaywalks," he said.

"I don't want people showing up with T-shirts that say, like: `Kill 'Em All and Let God Sort 'Em out,' '' he said. "These are responsible people.''

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September 29, 2003, 02:14 PM
A while back there was a thread dealing with whether or not it would be good to lead a peaceful armed march in D.C.

These 80 like minded folks managed to pull off there own march!

Good for them.

Armed activists say guns protect

By Brenna R. Kelly
The Cincinnati Enquirer

NORTHSIDE - Sunday strolls don't usually have rules - except when guns are involved.

• Guns are to be holstered at all times.

• No guns with over 15 shots.

• Be friendly to people you meet along the route.

Those were some of rules that Vernon Ferrier gave to about 80 people before they walked through Northside Sunday to push for a law allowing citizens to carry concealed guns.

"We are all law-abiding citizens who aren't a threat to anyone, with or without firearms," said Ferrier.

On Wednesday, the Ohio Supreme Court upheld the state's 144-year-old ban on carrying concealed weapons.

The walkers now hope the state legislature will act to add Ohio to the 45 states that allow hidden guns.

Not all residents welcomed the armed pedestrians.

"You shouldn't be walking around with guns in my neighborhood," Mike McCleese called out to the walkers.

McCleese, who is against a concealed-carry law, and neighbor Stephanie Sunderland, who supports such a law, both said that the neighborhood was not the place for a protest aimed at the state legislature in Columbus.

But Hal McKinney, who shot a man in a Northside bar during a robbery last May, thought it was the perfect place to push for something that he says saved his life.

McKinney, a former citizen's patrol member, was carrying a concealed gun when the robbery occurred.

"It saved my life and everyone's in that bar," said McKinney, who participated in Sunday's march.

September 29, 2003, 02:41 PM
there is an article in the Cincinnati Post that seems to be much more anti than the enquierer. calling it a day out of the wild west, and nothing more than a politacl stunt.

September 29, 2003, 03:50 PM
Why 15 shots?

Henry Bowman
September 29, 2003, 05:16 PM
The City of Cincinnati has its own quaint little AWB. Literaly, it bans all semi-auto firearms, but then defines semi-auto firearm only to include those rifles, shotguns, or pistols that fixed or detachable mags that are capable of hold ing in excess of a certain number of rounds. For handguns, that number is 15.

No, it does not make any sense.

Rebel Gunman HK
September 29, 2003, 05:41 PM
Wish I could join em. :(

Henry Bowman
September 29, 2003, 06:44 PM
It was a good time. Had a nice chat with a blathering anti. She opened the conversation by coming up behind me and reaching for my exposed gun. I think she wanted someone to throw her to the ground and break her arm in response. I stayed calm and disappointed her greatly. Tried to explain that this was what we were trying to point out: CCW is better than open carry. She was simply anti gun. Same old arguments. Still was entertaining (in a :banghead: kind of way).

September 29, 2003, 08:07 PM
you're face was classic when she kept reaching for your gun.

Henry Bowman
September 30, 2003, 10:35 AM
Really? You'll have to show me sometime! :uhoh:

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