Un Regestered Ammunition???


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BornAgainBullseye
January 5, 2009, 12:54 PM
I saw in national news a story of a man arrested in D.C. There was some kind of holiday road checkpoint and D.C. Metro found a few loose shotgun shells in his car. No gun, no open container, no priors, no warrents. e.t.c.... They charged him with possession of un-registered ammunition. Can somebody please tell me what is un-registered ammunition?

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jbauch357
January 5, 2009, 01:02 PM
It hasn't passed into law yet, but they are working on it.

The really sad part is that the whole thing is driven by a couple schmucks that made the technology, couldn't find a company to adopt it - so they bought a lobbyist and are now pushing for it to become law in DC. If they get it passed, they'll have a monopoly on the technology and be rich instantly. This has nothing to do with gun control, just greed.

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/

Art Eatman
January 5, 2009, 03:10 PM
jbauch357, encoding is not what the OP speaks to. Different subject entirely.

expvideo
January 5, 2009, 03:12 PM
40mm grenades? What other ammunition do you register?

Speedo66
January 5, 2009, 07:22 PM
In an area that totally banned handgun possession, why are you surprised that ammo had to be registered?

DC is one strange place, makes NYC look good.

sherman123
January 5, 2009, 07:30 PM
New to me that's one of the stupidest charges I've ever heard in my life it makes me glad to live in the great state of Kentucky.

imchad
January 5, 2009, 07:37 PM
You've got to love DC being our capital and also the most ignorant place in the US. I don't think this is an accident either.

Sam1911
January 5, 2009, 07:39 PM
Already being discussed: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=416839

-Sam

MIgunguy
January 5, 2009, 07:41 PM
[quote]You've got to love DC being our [quote]

No I don't. I grew up in the area and I HATE D.C.!

(OK, how do you use the quote system on this site!?? :banghead:)

subknave
January 5, 2009, 08:41 PM
Apparently according to the DC metropolitan police site you cannot have ammo in your possession that does not fit a gun registered to you. He was from Delaware so no weapon in DC registered to him but he had ammunition. Essentially he had ammunition for a gun not registered to him in DC. It is pretty ludicrous for a place that gets so much revenue from tourism. God forbid you be driving through and get stopped at a "checkpoint". Oh wait thats what happened to him? Wouldn't this be covered under FOPA??

Shovelhead
January 5, 2009, 09:24 PM
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1208/581762.html

WASHINGTON - Authorities near the White House arrested a man after he drove up to a security checkpoint in his car and drew the attention of wary police dogs, police said.

The car approached a checkpoint at an intersection near Lafayette Park, just north of the White House, soon after 6 p.m. Wednesday, and police dogs grew suspicious of the car, according to police accounts. Several fire trucks, police cars and other emergency vehicles reported to the area after the driver was taken into custody.

The driver was questioned before being arrested for possession of unregistered ammunition (shotgun shells) and having an unregistered vehicle, said Ed Donovan, a spokesman for the Secret Service. The car was found to be safe about two hours later, he said
Donovan identified the man as Andrew Martin, 20. Martin was from Delaware, Donovan said, though the agency spokesman did not know what city.

MIgunguy
January 5, 2009, 09:32 PM
Wow, that's nuts. Did the dog (bomb-sniffing dog, I assume?) smell the gunpowder in the shotgun shells? I have a small bag (the kind you'd carry on an airplane, carry on luggage type thing) that's had once-fired empty brass sitting in it for years. A bomb-sniffing dog would probably smell that. (note to self, don't go to DC or try to fly with that bag!)

BTW- you cannot have ammo in your possession that does not fit a gun registered to you-- ***?? :banghead:

subknave
January 5, 2009, 09:42 PM
Don't they usually just give a ticket for expired license plates? I am not clear what they meant by "unregistered vehicle". Was it not registered and had no plates or was it not registered in DC and had expired Delaware tags?

And how does a dog "grow suspicious"? Did they whisper to their handlers that something didn't seem right? Usually a dog Alerts or Points to indicate a positive indication for drugs or explosives. It sounds like the HANDLERS needed to make up an excuse for searching the car and invented suspicious dogs.

MT GUNNY
January 6, 2009, 01:25 AM
Police Check Points are unconstitutional in the first Place

Master Blaster
January 6, 2009, 08:51 AM
The driver was questioned before being arrested for possession of unregistered ammunition (shotgun shells) and having an unregistered vehicle, said Ed Donovan, a spokesman for the Secret Service. The car was found to be safe about two hours later, he said


What I'm surprised the Federal Ninjas, didnt take it out to the bomb range and blow it up with C4 just to be sure.

But no doubt they ripped up the dash cut up the tires and destroyed the upholstery just to be on the safe side.

subknave
January 6, 2009, 09:06 AM
And why was the Secret Service running a checkpoint and arresting people for at most a municipal and/or state violation? Neither of the laws broken could be considered a federal law, are they?

taprackbang
January 6, 2009, 09:39 AM
Police Check Points are unconstitutional in the first Place

That's right...

Oooo nooooo. Loose SHOTGUN shells!!
We are living in Orwells' 1984 folks.

rbernie
January 6, 2009, 09:55 AM
And why was the Secret Service running a checkpoint and arresting people for at most a municipal and/or state violation?The Uniformed Division of the Secret Service (UDSS) has responsibility for the protection of the White House, Vice President's residence, U.S. Treasury (Departmental Offices), and foreign diplomatic missions. This responsibility allows them to establish checkpoints and erect physical barriers in/around these locations, and they do exactly that. They used to maintain a relatively small perimeter around the White House itself (the wall around the yard, essentially), but after several attacks during the Clinton administration they closed off Pennsylvania Avenue and established a larger perimeter that included Lafayette Park.

http://www.secretservice.gov/whoweare_ud.shtml

Lafayette Park is the small strip of grass directly across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House, on the north side of Penn Ave. between the Treasury Annex and the Blair House complex. The north/south 16th Street ends at Lafayette Park just north of the White House (hence the White House address of 1600 Pennsylvanie Avenue) and does not resume on the south side of the White House.

It is not uncommon for the UDSS to detain folk, and for the Metro Po-Leece to be the ones actually doing the arresting.

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