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charliehustle10
January 5, 2009, 02:35 PM
Hey all, living in Asheville, North Carolina and quite routinely take the dog for hikes out on the trails surrounding the Blue Ridge Parkway. It is my understanding that even with a valid CCW I am not legally permitted to carry a firearm while hiking or even driving on the parkway. Recently I've heard that the Department of the Interior (???or some other department) has stated that it is in fact legal to carry in Federal Parks, but that it is not codified law yet .....So getting to the point, can I carry on the BRP in NC, if so does anyone have any links to sound legal information so I can determine for myself if it is a good idea.

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1858rem
January 5, 2009, 02:42 PM
i am not sure about this..but one of the people i know with a ccw stated you cannot carry anything larger than a 22 pistol and were in NC too!

twoclones
January 5, 2009, 03:36 PM
Cannot answer your question but offer a link to the DOI information.

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=11895

Marlin 45 carbine
January 5, 2009, 04:13 PM
there is a Parkway hdqrtrs just of US70 that can tell you for sure. met some of the Rangers that are OK, but beware of that one woman - she is a man hater. can't recollect her name but she is out of the post over at Soco gap.

unisonic12
January 5, 2009, 04:34 PM
Didn't they just pass a law allowing firearms in national parks?

Thermactor
January 5, 2009, 06:57 PM
there is a Parkway hdqrtrs just of US70 that can tell you for sure. met some of the Rangers that are OK, but beware of that one woman - she is a man hater. can't recollect her name but she is out of the post over at Soco gap.
Man hater? Hahahahaahahahhahahahaha! What does that mean now? Will she bite your head off for being a man? Or if you are courteous and polite with her, will she continue to hate you for being a male?

rtroha
January 6, 2009, 10:49 AM
Assuming the Bradys don't get some kind of injunction as part of their lawsuit to stop the rule change.

researchdoc
January 6, 2009, 10:57 AM
Charlie,
Yes... you WILL BE ABLE TOO....
The executive order has to be signed by President Bush first before it is lawful to do so. To my knowledge it hasn't been done yet, but will be before the administration exodus. I will then go to the parkway and drive the entire NC side parkway with my handgun on my hip under my coat... just because....

Ok.. update.. yes it is in effect the 9th of this month.... Enjoy your walks on the Parkway. If I see you walking the dogs, I will stop and say HI.... we can compare firearms.

tallpines
January 6, 2009, 01:29 PM
I'll carry just the same as before.

jorb
January 7, 2009, 01:00 AM
Not to beat on old dog to death
but I just don't understand any firearms restrictions considering the plain language of the Second Ammendment. Just sayin.

yenchisks
January 7, 2009, 01:23 AM
+1 jorb.it's like saying, is it OK for me to defend myself.do i have permission please;)

kurtmax
January 7, 2009, 06:20 PM
My question about this law is: can you carry unconcealed.

Upon first reading it appears you cannot as it specifically lists concealed carry. However, if you take that opinion it also means it's illegal to carry an unloaded or inoperable firearm unless it's in a case or disassembled in your vehicle.

Another question is: Can you carry inside a bathroom at a state park? My guess is not. So should I hang my handgun on a hook outside the door?!

I've always wondered about this at the local National Forest shooting range. There is an (almost) port-o-potty type restroom. Is it illegal to carry a firearm in it as a federal building?

I guess it's written to be vague and not make any sense on purpose...

1858rem
January 16, 2009, 12:36 AM
i thought(WHAT!!lol) that if you have a ccw you are not supposed to open carry any more?

gc70
January 16, 2009, 12:48 AM
I've always wondered about this at the local National Forest shooting range. There is an (almost) port-o-potty type restroom. Is it illegal to carry a firearm in it as a federal building?

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 44 > 930 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000930----000-.html)
930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term “Federal facility” means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.

Vague?
Is the (almost) port-o-potty owned or leased by the Federal Government?
Are Federal employees regularly present in the (almost) port-o-potty for the purpose of performing their official duties?

N3HCP
January 16, 2009, 12:55 AM
If I understand it, what can be done by Executive Order by one President can just as easily be undone by the next one. Look for this rule to be changed back shortly after Jan. 20.:mad:

gc70
January 16, 2009, 01:50 AM
If I understand it, what can be done by Executive Order by one President can just as easily be undone by the next one. Look for this rule to be changed back shortly after Jan. 20.

The change was not made by executive order. The change was in the actual content of the federal regulation and was made after a long period of public notice, commentary, and consideration as required by statute. If the new administration wants to change the regulation, they have to go through the same extended process.

BTW, Bush did not initiate the change. A bipartisan majority of the Senate and the leadership of the Congressional committees overseeing the Department of the Interior wanted the change.

On February 22, 2008, Interior Secretary Kempthorne responded to letters from 51 Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, as well as from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee, urging him to update existing regulations that prohibit the carrying of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges.

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