How long will it be before the CMP is totally sold-out of Garands?

How many remaining Garands are in the CMP's warehouse? At what point will they be completely sold-out and unable to offer any more surplus Garands? I've always wondered about this. Just how deep are the stocks of these old rifles? Roughly how many do they still have left?

I've wondered the same thing. On the CMP website, it has photos of the warehouse where there seem to be tons of crates on pallets, but it could have been from years ago. Apparently, there were over 6 million made, but one of the latest posts on their forum said that there was an 18 inch pile of orders just from the week of November 10th (the week they are currently working on). Assuming some of those orders are for multiple rifles, that one week worth of orders could easily be in the thousands.

I always wonder what the CMP will do after it is out of garands. They can't sell M14's even if they could mostly all were chopped up back in the 90's. I doubt they are going to be able to sell M16's or AR15's so I wonder what will become of them?

From what I've read, they use the proceeds from their sales to promote civilian marksmanship (obviously), and are currently putting aside funds for the future when they run out of rifles to keep on conducting marksmanship clinics around the country. When the rifles and the funds run out (may it be long after I am gone).... maybe by then, this country's political climate will have changed to the point where they will start selling off M16's and M4's :) (one can always dream)

In an ideal world, military surplus M14s and M16s would be converted to semi-auto-only and sold by the CMP. In the communist, evil, absurd, insane world that we live in, ruled by human garbage-eating slugs known as "politicians," this is impossible because of stupid, insane, pointless bureaucratic restrictions that go against every conceivable concept of common sense. Welcome to the brave new world, people. It's only going to get braver and newer.

In an ideal world, military surplus M14s and M16s would be converted to semi-auto-only and sold by the CMP. In the communist, evil, absurd, insane world that we live in, ruled by human garbage-eating slugs known as "politicians," this is impossible because of stupid, insane, pointless bureaucratic restrictions that go against every conceivable concept of common sense. Welcome to the brave new world, people. It's only going to get braver and newer.

I agree. But only 100%.

Well said, BTW.

Why should they be down converted, except that your government does not trust you with modern infantry weapons as is the clear meaning of the second amendment.

Actually, you're right. They shouldn't be.

I really want a Garand one day...

No time like the present. They aren't making any more of them, you know. ;)

The more they sell the more the price will go down so hopefully they dont run out before I get one.

I have the "papers" together to get one, but have more pressing needs at the moment. Notice that "needs" was, unfortunately, not surrounded by quotation marks. :(

How do u get one of these rifles.

http://www.thecmp.org/

The more they sell the more the price will go down so hopefully they dont run out before I get one.
That's a good one. I've never heard of prices on Garands going down. I don't think it's going to happen. They've more than doubled since the first time I wanted to get one. In 2006 I rationalized the purchase of my first one because it was the 100th anniversary of the .30-06 and I didn't have any rifles in that caliber. Now I have 4 garands and a carbine. And a 1903-A3. :D

Now I just need a 1917 Enfield and a few more Garands. I don't have a Winchester or an IHC yet... hmmm.....

How long before they stop selling them, is what I think you really want to know.

Given current course and speed.... who knows... they may well stop selling and get back to rendering them into scrap:eek:.... very soon. :what:It wouldn't take much.
Think about it.

I'm surprised they have ANY after November.

The time to buy 'em's now, that's for sure.

As for their future: I think it would be awesome if they wound up selling surplus M9s, 1911s (if they ever actually LEAVE the armorys of the people who use them), or M16 uppers/stocks/parts (minues FA parts, of course); however, the whole "act of congress" thing makes me doubt this will ever happen.

I just received my M1903, M1 Carbine and Garand. I waited nearly 40 days but I attribute that to the Winchesters they were offering.
I wanted another Garand and carbine before the new administration gets in. They sure as heck won't be going down in price.

The more they sell the more the price will go down so hopefully they dont run out before I get one.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the price to go down.

That's a dandy idea about the 1911's, M9's, and uppers. I've wondered before why they didn't have old 1911's, does anybody know? Is it because they can't ship you a handgun?

That's a dandy idea about the 1911's, M9's, and uppers. I've wondered before why they didn't have old 1911's, does anybody know? Is it because they can't ship you a handgun?

its because we dont have "warehouses full" of 1911's ( or any gun) any more than we have warehouses full of unicorns.

we shot out any of ours and id doubt if we see any returns from foreign nations even though many of them may still be "US Property" on loan. i suspect many were destroyed due to UN or other ridiculous regulations

And don't forget the reason we don't have any M14s is because Mr. Clinton had 700,000 of them chopped up on your dime. :rolleyes:

I see they will dwindle in time as more shooters get hold of them.

Well, I just left the South Store at 10:30am today. They had plenty in stock for now. :)

Nugilum - did they have any correct grades on the floor? How about service grade selection? I thought about going in the next week or so. Thanks.

More in the private market as people have to sell to pay more important bills.

If I'm not a member of a CMP Affiliated Organization, how would I go about purchasing one?

TIA

If I'm not a member of a CMP Affiliated Organization, how would I go about purchasing one?

join the Garand Owners group listed in the organization list (30$ i think) , and shoot a local match. that will cover your Organization and Marksmanship requirements

:eek:And don't forget the reason we don't have any M14s is because Mr. Clinton had 700,000 of them chopped up on your dime.

Need a Crying emicon.


Destroy 700,000 rifles that would sell for a minimum of $500 each.

700000x500= $35 Million.

Good Move.

Well M14's are machine guns so the BATF says no anyways so we can stop dreaming.

sgtdevildog, There were about 15 "Correct Grade" Garands out, but I didn't see who made them. There were also plenty of "Service Grade". Be warned, it was a busy morning. Lots of people...

The only thing that's on a shortage at Anniston is ammo. They only had the 192 count (loaded en-bloc clips) Greek spam cans, 240 count (no clip) Greek spam cans, and 250 count Lake City in US ammo can. :eek:

No M1 Carbine ammo! :mad: :cuss: :banghead: :fire:

Nugilum I soooo want another garand. This one for a shooter though - my only other one is a CMP that I got years ago - one of the last US ones (not a return) that has lockbar sights and uncut op rod - really hate to shoot it a lot. Although I don't have an EBR yet - so I'm torn. I know, I know - get both.

I just had a look at the CMP website, and oh you lucky Americans! To have the chance to buy a piece of your history that is also a first-rate rifle - how can any of you pass up on that? Sell a child or two and get one.

The British army's first issue semi-auto rifle was the SLR, our version of the FN/FAL. I had the pleasure to use one in the sixties, didn't appreciate it at the time, but now they've all been chopped or sold overseas. I would love to fire one again, but it will never happen. Civilian posession of a semi-auto rifle now would be a serious criminal offence.

Well M14's are machine guns so the BATF says no anyways so we can stop dreaming.
Why? Machine guns are legal in most states. And a transferrable M14 is worth about $15 grand. Even if they rendered them semi-only I wager you could get at least 2 grand a piece for genuine Winchester M14s.

Why? Machine guns are legal in most states. And a transferrable M14 is worth about $15 grand. Even if they rendered them semi-only I wager you could get at least 2 grand a piece for genuine Winchester M14s.

Because the policy is "once a machine gun, always a machine gun".

They were not registered with the ATF prior to 1986, and can therefore not be registered now.

I have my 1st Garand comming to my FFL on Monday according to ups tracking number. I feel like a kid on Christmas eve! I got a Premium Grade: USGI Barrel Gauging 2, Reparked, New Walnut Stock & Handguards, Inspected, With 1-Year Warranty, 10 Clips & Instructional Manual - $800

Congrats! where from?

Because the policy is "once a machine gun, always a machine gun".

They were not registered with the ATF prior to 1986, and can therefore not be registered now.

Yup that is why it will NEVER happen. Also they would be pretty easy to switch back to full auto. Just weld back on the lug and buy the full auto bits that are everywhere. Its a shame though as the CMP supposedly has a ton of them just siting there.

1K,

Thanks

http://www.garandguy.com/

He's got a good rep. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Be warned, though... Garands are addictive. ;)

I got my Garand at noon today. It is beautiful, HOWEVER everytime I fired it (150 grain Federal 30.06) the trigger guard popped open! I reluctantly left it for the gunsmith to fix the problem. Tony at Garandguy was real nice and told me he would be glad to adjust it for me. I told him I didn't want to wait for shipping back and forth and left it with the smith. He said he would pay for the repair! I was very impressed, but now I have to wait 2 to 3 days for the repair/adjustment since the FFL is so busy. After just 4 rounds through the rifle, I'm in love. I'm also going crazy waiting now after I actually had it in my hands for such a short time!

Good to hear he's taking care of you. Let us know how it works out, and post pics!

BTW get some Greek HXP .30 ball ammo from the CMP while you can. ;) Your rifle will like it better than modern factory .30-06.

Why isn't the NRA a CMP affiliated organization? I know the TSRA is... Just curious more than anything.

I think it needs to be more of an actual marksmanship organization where you are out actively shooting not a lobbying (or whatever you consider it) organization like the NRA where one can send in a check then sit on their couch fondling their rifles fantasizing about shooting them :)

You have just succeded in giving a brilliant idea to some bean counter at the
CMP to change marketing to:

All CMP stock is being bought up by a holding group!
Buy your Garand now!
Before the prices increase

That kind of thing.

-Like "Panic Prices" by Davandron post in Rifle Country.