Shotgun card shooting


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bigjoedodge
January 7, 2009, 08:32 AM
I have been going to my local vfw hall and doing some competition card shooting. I am shooting a mossberg 935 with a aftermarket choke. I am still getting my ass kick and want some advice on what else i could do to my gun. I have patterned my gun and shoot the best it can right now.

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glockgod
January 8, 2009, 07:54 PM
Get used to it. Back when I was younger I wasted a lot of money at "turkey" shoots before I learned that cheating ran rampant. "Sleeved" guns were the norm-shotgun barrels custom made to shoot 100+ pellets in a 4" circle at 100'. You don't see guns like that in the field. Even saw one "Regular" that routinely switched the shell given to him by the RO with one from his pocket loaded with an extra 1/4 ounce of shot. When caught he just shrugged and said "So what?"

Howard Roark
January 8, 2009, 09:13 PM
You need to find someone that makes custom chokes.

Card cutting was popular here years ago. My cousin is a gunsmith that also happens to be a retired tool and die maker. He made many custom chokes. The secret is a tight restriction with a long bore that absorbs shot rebound and then fingers that grab the wad to retain it as soon as possible so as not to disturb the shot string.

Turkey shoots and card cutting are totally differant games. Card cutting is a money game around here and the steady shot with the right tools wins.

Shooting the center out of a card at 25 yards is the goal.

jmorris
January 9, 2009, 10:09 AM
I don’t really know what game you’re talking about but I have been called a gamer before. If you have time and are interested enough I bet a custom wad would really help.

fordman
October 15, 2009, 06:24 PM
look up a good builder and tell them what shells and how many feet you shoot and they can build you a good choke that will shoot better than most a tighter choke may not be what you need some times a .680 will outshoot a .640 its a game you have to play to win I have a stock winchester 1300 pump with a .675 five stop choke that is hard to beat and 1 more thang is have fun and be safe good shooting to ya.

Uncle Mike
October 16, 2009, 02:33 AM
Looooong parallel section of the choke with a gradual taper in the funnel section will do you well.

Custom builds are the thing around hear for chokes.

Offfhand
October 16, 2009, 11:33 AM
I have a couple of winning card guns, barrels and several chokes built for me by Bud Burkey, he's the master of dense shotgun patterns. Phone is 423-477-7633 and he may also have a web site but I don't what it is. Call and see

Lovesbeer99
October 16, 2009, 07:19 PM
can someone decribe what this game is?

redneck2
October 16, 2009, 07:36 PM
FWIW....I suspect that you're looking for the tightest choke possible. I got a Tru-Lock for my 10 gauge for turkey hunting. When I tried to pattern it at 40 yards. it blew the center of the target out. I've killed two birds at 62 and 67 yards, both DRT. This is with Hevi-Shot.

Tru-Lock holds (or at least held) the record for the tightest pattern ever recorded. Expensive, but REALLY good stuff. Check out their web site. They will mill a choke from a solid block of steel to your spec's.

hub
October 17, 2009, 01:02 AM
can someone describe what this game is?

Sure basically it's a gambling game. There were a lot places who have them around here when I was younger. Not so much anymore. I think basically it's usually put on my non profit organizations to raise money like churches, VFW, American legion, or sometime charity for individuals in need. It has several names card shoot, still board shoot, turkey shoot, beef shoot, meat shoot, block shoot, etc.

OK so how do you play. Basically the house, will put up targets usually at an known or sometimes unknown distance. Some are different the range is usually between 20 yds-50yds. I would say 30 yds is the most common but a big shoot around here always sets up at 50yds. The targets are usually something like 8x8 bulls eye cards, or some places use wood boards and you put your own x on or something similar to that. They will have a firing line of lets just say 25 lanes. That would make 25 shooters per round. They can do single rounds winners or for something like a big beef shoot, judge all the cards from all rounds at one time for one big winner. One shoot around here that shoots at 50yds lets you buy in and shoot up to ten shells at one board for the beef shoot.

So how to win. Basically whoever has a shot pellet closest to the center of the x wins. That may sound simple but if you can imagine, how much shot is going into every card for every round. A lot of the time the judges have to use calipers to measure and determine the winner. While it's still a game of chance (nobody can control each individual shot pellet) there are things you can do to increase your chances of winning.

The most obvious thing is if you can get more shot into a target your chances of getting one in the center is greater. They give out the shells so you can't alter them. So that means you will need to set your shotgun up for tighter patterns. First you want a tighter choke to make a tighter pattern. Some places have different classes of guns or maximum choke rules.

Some people go as far to have a gunsmith build them a barrel or choke. Some guns shoot better than others. Some guns shoot some shells better than other shells. My dad has an old 1940's Belgium Browning A5 that has won tons of shoots. No special choke or barrel modifications just plain old factory full that shoots a really dense pattern. I have a plain jane Mossberg 500 28in vent rib with a tight turkey choke and a scope that shoots pretty good. It's all about what you want to spend. But really it's a game of chance, even if you have the best gun out there you could be beat by anyone at anytime.

Here is a good website to check out that has some good info.
http://www.turkeyshoot.com/

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