Ruger 10-22


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Karate
September 25, 2003, 11:40 PM
I just bought a uger 10-22 with a 20inch Bull Barrel and laminated wood stock with a Bushnell Var. Scope...this is my first rifle so I need a little help..is there any mods. that I can or should do to make this little plinker better...I was thinkd of changing out the stock to a Houge, to save a little on wieght.

it really is accurate more so than me.

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SodaPop
September 25, 2003, 11:53 PM
it really is accurate more so than me.


Try to adapt to the way the thing shoots now.

Your setup is proble better than my stock 10/22 and I'm happy with what I got.

Sisco
September 26, 2003, 12:40 AM
Is it a factory 10/22T? If so, get a Volquartsen hammer and install it. You won't believe what that alone will do for the trigger pull. Not hard to install yourself either.
The Hogue stock is good, lighter than the laminate but if you shoot using a sling the Hogue is a little too flexible.
Which Bushnell do you have? I use a Bushnell 4-12x40 with the adjustable objective. Most rifle scopes are focused and paralax free at 100 yards, with the AO scopes you can focus down to 25 yards, much more suited to .22's.
Go to www.rimfirecentral.com and use the search function, lots of really good info there.

Skofnung
September 26, 2003, 01:04 AM
You might try bedding the barrel and free floating the reciever.

To be honest though, I think being that this is your first rifle, you should find out what kind of ammo your rifle "likes" and just buy a truckload of it and hit the range every chance you get. Read Jeff Cooper's "The Art of the Rifle" if you have not already and apply the information therein.

A year or so ago, I met a fellow at the public range that had just dropped a fairly large (for a college student :D ) chunk of change on a Volquartsen (sp?) modified 10/22. He was very proud of it. It had all the bells and whistles, from a fancy stock and trigger group to a compensator on the muzzle. It even had a Burris scope on it.

He set up one of those spinning targets on the 50 yard line and started shooting. He hit the target about once every 4th shot. I noticed, but I minded my own, as they say.

About 5 min. later, he made a loud comment that he was going to send the rifle back because it would not shoot right. I asked him if I could shoot at his target with my rifle, which was (is) a cheap, out of the box Norinco bolt action with a Tasco scope. I fired 5 shots and spun the target each time. He asked to shoot my rifle, and I let him. He fired 5 shots, and hit the target 2 times. I asked to shoot his, and again, I hit the target 5 for 5.

I politely told the guy that he had a very fine rifle, but he needed to practice with it and I suggested that he read Art of the Rifle.

Since then, I have seen him out there, and he gets nice, tight groups with his tricked out 10/22.

The moral to the story is, it is the man, not the machine. At least until you can shoot up to the accuracy of your rifle/ammunition. Men (and women) that can do that are few and far between. I sure as heck am not one of the. Maybe someday... :D

larryw
September 26, 2003, 01:21 AM
Any mods? For a 10/22? Heh heh heh :evil:

Yeah, how much do you want to spend?

Seriously, I'd spend some time with it before starting the mods. Think about what you like and don't. Trigger is usually first on everyone's list. I put a Hogue stock on mine, like it a lot, but weight savings were trivial.

OnTarget (http://www.ontargetguns.com/10-22.html) is my preferred source for parts to transform your 10/22 into FrankenRuger.

SteelyDan
September 26, 2003, 02:40 AM
Sisco scores with the hammer recommendation. If you can only do one thing, that should be it.

Elarski
September 26, 2003, 03:04 AM
Karate: I have a Hogue stockon my 10/22, and I like it, but I like the look, and feel of a laminated stock. If you decide on getting a Hogue, and want to sell your laminated stock, please get a hold of me.

I have a 18" Fluted Bull Barrel on my 10/22, and love it. I can hit anything I aim at within 100 yds.. Have fun with your rifle.:cool:

DougCxx
September 26, 2003, 06:09 AM
You might try bedding the barrel and free floating the reciever. ....
- Ehhh, what?
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Seriously, hold the gun standing on the butt and grab the barrel and see if you can move the action around in the stock at all. If you can, then it can benefit from being bedded--mine in particular had quite a bit of side-to-side play. As an experiment I used some pads of Sorbothane I had around instead of any usual bedding compound; I had to shave out a bit of stock wood with a dremel tool but doing all this resulted in a noticeable improvement in accuracy. Sorbothane is a vibration-dampening urethane.
----I did not free-float the barrel however, as I could not get a secure action/stock connection without support under the barrel. The screw that holds the 10/22's action in is set near the front of the action, and no matter what I did, the action would always lean forward/back, resulting in the barrel moving down/up. The 10/22 action simply isn't designed to support a free-floated barrel, it doesn't attach into a normal stock secure enough--to do this well, it would need other attaching screws located near the rear of the receiver. I didn't want to bother with that however, so I cleared the barrel channel, but used a pad of sorbothane about an inch from the fore-end.
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The vibration-absorbing properties of the sorbothane are easily detectable with the gun in-hand--the gun just plain doesn't want to vibrate anymore. I pulled the action out of the stock for an unrelated reason about 2 years after I had installed the sorbothane pads, and inspected them and found no damage or fatigue. The gun shot well the entire two years, and after I reassembled it, it shot just as well as it previously had.
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Sisco
September 26, 2003, 07:02 AM
Any mods? For a 10/22? Heh heh heh
10/22's are like old Chevys. Probably more aftermarket parts for them than any other gun made.

I bought my son a 10/22 for his birthday when he was ten. He's sixteen now and had some money burning a hole in his pocket after finding a summer job. I talked him into buying a Hogue stock / Adams & Bennet barrel combo from Midway. Couldn't stop there, had to have the Volquartsen hammer and an extended mag release. Factory scope rail had to go, replaced by a Weaver style rail. Old scope didn't look good on the new rail, needed a new one of those too.

Had so much fun putting his together I just had to have one for myself. Bought a new 10/22 at Wally World and made good friends with the Midway and Brownells catalogs and put my own together. Have over $500 in mine and probably not done yet!
Sounds like a lot of money for a .22 but before I built it I never had anything I could use to shoot bumble bees at fifty yards. Yee Haw!

Skofnung
September 26, 2003, 11:35 AM
DougCxx,
Perhaps you misread my post. I did not say free float the barrel, I said bed the barrel and free float the reciever. Being that the 10/22 has an aluminum reciever and the action screw as you pointed out, it will not support a free floated barrel.

I have a friend that bedded his bull barrel in a wood stock, and relieved the wood around the reciever just enough to slide a piece of paper between the two, all the way around. He does not have a scope on the gun, instead he uses a peep rear sight and he added a globe front sight to the barrel. It seems to work very well for him.

Regards

zahc
September 26, 2003, 11:44 AM
Did anyone refer you to rimfirecentral.com yet?

hksw
September 26, 2003, 12:34 PM
...is there any mods. that I can or should do to make this little plinker better...

Without buying anything, how good are you mechanically and handing tools like a Dremel? Auto bolt release is a cinch as is lightening the stock (non-target) trigger. Not as good as a serious target trigger but much better than stock.

DougCxx
September 26, 2003, 01:25 PM
I have a friend that bedded his bull barrel in a wood stock, and relieved the wood around the reciever just enough to slide a piece of paper between the two, all the way around. He does not have a scope on the gun, instead he uses a peep rear sight and he added a globe front sight to the barrel. It seems to work very well for him.
-Okay, I am not getting somethng here: as I see it, you cannot float the receiver because that's where the only screw that holds the action into the stock is. And bedding the barrel will only help if you----glue the barrel into the stock (-because there's no attachment method to hold the barrel itself into the stock), which means you will have a tough time getting the receiver out again, for whatever reason.....? If the receiver isn't touching the stock at all, then there's no point in bothering with the receiver screw--but if that is the case, what is holding the action into the stock?
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Richardson
September 26, 2003, 01:37 PM
Besides the hammer replacement (which has been mentioned), you might consider the extended bolt and extended magazine releases. They make it easier to release the bolt and the magazine.

Richardson

Karate
September 26, 2003, 01:50 PM
Sisco
Sounds like I have the same Scope that you had...I have not figured out all of the little dials yet but I have ordered a manual from Bushnell.

MikeK
September 26, 2003, 04:54 PM
Since I've just completed many mods to my 10/22 and have a few more parts on order I'll give you my list. First, as Sisco suggested, spend some time at rimfirecentral.com I got most of my specific recommendations there.

Volquartsen hammer - Major Major improvement
extended mag release - Much easier to use
automatic bolt release - same as above (you can modify the original)
extractor - Will see when I get it to the range
Weaponcraft buffer - It is quieter
Hogue stocks, but if I had the laminated ones I may have kept them

The other mods (parts on order) are related to scope and base and may not apply in your case:

Weaver TO-9 base, Weaver Detachable Top Mount Rings and Simmons Mag 1022 scope, 3-9x32mm AO.

The Weaver style base and a scope with AO (Adjustable Objective) were strongly recommended by the rimfirecentral folks.

Good Luck!

Sisco
September 26, 2003, 06:47 PM
Sorry, I just gotta show it off.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p47f341032b24cb2c4e0f639b48699caf/fb048ad1.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p8959c87660dfd7a3523ed05e7bf4163a/fb048b54.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/pb7cdd21d0b187ce5043259b661992c12/fb048b68.jpg

Gets 1/2" five shot groups at 50yds with Win. Dynapoints. Haven't tried any "premium" ammo through it.

ShaiVong
September 26, 2003, 08:11 PM
That is a fine looking rifle.

Heck, that stock must have cost more than the initial purchase!

Karate
September 26, 2003, 08:13 PM
Sisco

What type of stock is that

Sisco
September 26, 2003, 08:30 PM
It's a Fajen thumbhole sporter. Bought it and the barrel as a combo from MidwayUSA, $190. It was an unfinished drop-in, has about twelve coats of tung oil on it. I added the Ruger medallions.
This is my Son's rifle with the Hogue stock.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p601d590490fa4f6537685349be470019/fb048a8f.jpg

zahc
September 26, 2003, 08:50 PM
Sisco, if I had pictures, I'd put you to shame. Maybe tomorrow.

Karate
September 26, 2003, 09:42 PM
Sisko
Is that some type of compensator or buffet on the end of the barrel.

Do you like the Hogue stock or the wood thumbhole...do you know if there is a synthetic thumbhole stock to fit a 10-22 with a bull barrel.

Sisco
September 26, 2003, 10:02 PM
It's a compensator, can't say how much good it actually does.
The Hogue stock is better for hunting / carrying, thumbhole stocks are great on the bench but hard to hang onto if you're carrying it around all day. There may be a synthetic thumbhole out there somewhere.

Zahc; There's a lot of 10/22's that put these two to shame, show us what ya got!

Karate
September 29, 2003, 12:03 AM
Where I can I buy all of these upgrades like the Volquartsen hammer and maybe a different stock...I need a source you guys have inspired me to see how far my check book will let me go

BamBam-31
September 29, 2003, 05:04 AM
As recommended earlier, visit www.rimfirecentral.com first to get some 411 on the 10/22. This will help you make your purchasing decisions a bit easier.

Then, you can visit www.ontargetguns.com for a "One Stop Shop" for 10/22 parts (as well as for Ruger .22 handgun parts).

I'd recommend at least the Volq. hammer, extractor, extended mag release, and auto bolt release (if you've got time and a dremel, you can mod the original part to work the same).

VERY IMPORTANT: You'll hear people suggest (and rightly so) that you buy a few (maybe even several) different brands of ammo to try with your 10/22. This is good advice. Find the brand yours likes best (many do well with Wolf Match Target) and go from there. They'll probably have different points of impact, naturally. Just find the one that functions well and groups the tightest.

If you have a bit more moolah, try the Green Mountain barrels. Very accurate and affordable.

Good luck. :)

Sisco
September 29, 2003, 08:20 AM
Like BamBam said, check out Rimfirecentral and get information overload. This is one website where you'll want to click on the banner ads and check out the site sponsors.
Check www.midwayusa.com also, that's where I got my stock / barrel combos.
Have fun!

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