[bullseye308]

First off I know this is backwards, so we can get past that.:rolleyes: I will be expanding my pistol collection soon and was trying to get a jump on it by getting some ammo ready. What I am looking for is just a basic, tried and true, middle of the road load for 3 calibers. Just for plinking basically, all pistols will have adjustable sights and be adjusted for the load(theoretically). First is a 45 ACP 230 LRN, then a 357 158 LSWC, and a 9mm 124 LTC. All will be loaded with Bullseye powder. The cases are ready and the bullets are cast. I want to have 2k loaded for each by the time I get them and just got a 4# jug of Bullseye today to get started.

I already load 357 and 9mm and have a good load worked out for them specifically for the pistols I already have. I'm just looking for a "WWB" load for the others. I know it doesn't seem practical to most and I fully understand the "correct" way to go about load development, but these will just be used by folks doing lots of informal plinking.

[lgbloader]

Bullseye,

I completely understand your intent however, I would suggest loading a ladder of rounds for your new pistols rather than cranking out 2K of rounds that might be just okay. With a ladder, you will be able to find out the difference of what works good and what works great. sometimes you'll find a sweet spot within as little as 0.1 or 0.2 grain of difference. I did this right before I got my new 257 WBY Mag last year.

LGB

[bullseye308]

I would suggest loading a ladder of rounds for your new pistols rather than cranking out 2K of rounds that might be just okay.

But that is my intent. Something like a WWB generic load that will work in multiple pistols. I am going to proactively find a couple of dozen new shooters this summer and take them shooting with a variety of pistols. I don't need custom ammo matched to the pistols, just something that will work in whatever I chamber it in, be it a Glock, Sig, Baretta, etc. I have a few friends that will be helping get new shooters and teaching them with me. I am just looking for advice on a generic load that anyone has used in different pistols. When they start gaining experience and looking for something a little more refined, I'll pull mine out with my ammo and work them up to the intermediate stage. After that they should know what they want and they will be helped to find something for themselves. I did this for a few last year and had a great time, I just want to do it with a lot more this year with more pistols and more ammo.

[lgbloader]

I want to have 2k loaded for each by the time I get them

Sorry I misunderstood, Mate. I guess I saw this sentence and didn't really go any further, You know what I mean.

ladder of rounds You do know what this is, right?

Let me check my log after the game and i'll email you some of my loads. They may be of help.

LGB

[lgbloader]

BE308,

Going off of memory, here is a load for 45 acp that might help.

45 ACP 230 LRN - 4.8 grains Bullseye, 1.272 OAL
357 158 LSWC - *try 4.5 grains, 1.57 OAL with Large pistol primers. I don't load lead for 357 Mag, Sorry. I only load 125 XTP's w/H110 powder - BOOM!!!.
9mm 124 LTC - 4.1 grains Bullseye, 1.110 OAL is okay. I prefer VV320 or Power pistol and I am also working with VV330.

I'll check the Lyman book after the Ravens/Titans game.

*Please load at your own risk.

LGB

[SlamFire1]

45ACP

I tested Bullseye with a truncated cone bullet from Bull-X and the standard LRN 230 grain bullet. I prefer the LRN.

I worked up my loads, decided the 4.5 grain load put me right where I wanted to be.

Also have some 200 LSWC data. 4.0 grs Bullseye is an excellent target load.


Kimber Custom Classic M1911


230 LFN Bull-X 3.5 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP
OAL 1.20" taper crimp .469"
8-Jan-06 T = 61 °F
Ave Vel = 643.6
Std Dev = 14.07
ES = 63.63
High = 679.9
Low = 616.3
N = 32
shot a little high Pistol cycled each shot



230 LFN Bull-X 4.0 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP

OAL 1.20" taper crimp .469"
8-Jan-06 T = 61 °F

Ave Vel = 715.9
Std Dev = 11.45
ES = 48.32
High = 742.9
Low = 694.8
N = 32
shot a little low


230 gr LRN 4.0 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP

OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"

29-Jan-06 T = 68 °F
Ave Vel = 698.8
Std Dev = 10.19
ES = 36.33
High = 713.5
Low = 677.1
N = 28
Little High = put close point of aim V. Accurate

230 gr LRN 4.5 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP
21-Jun-06 T = 97 °F
OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"
Ave Vel = 805.2
Std Dev =11.4
ES=54.08
High=836.9
Low=782.8
N =32

200 LSWC 4.0 grs Bullseye Mixed cases WLP
21-Jun-06 T = 97 °F
Ave Vel = 748.2
Std Dev = 10.86
ES = 41.52
High = 763.2
Low = 721.7
N = 22
Mild recoil, very accurate, excellent target load.

[bullseye308]

ladder of rounds

You do know what this is, right?


Yep, but for what I will be doing it won't help. I will be using 3-4 different 357's, 45's, and 9mm's and need it to function in all of them. That is why I asked for a WWB type load that will work in anything. Kind of like Unique, good in everything, but not great in anything.

Slamfire, that is what I was looking for, thank you.

[zxcvbob]

For the .357, max load with 158 lead is 6.5 grains of Bullseye. It's a pretty hot load; it'll surprise ya.

[bullseye308]

Goll this morning from an ad placed on Craigslist for lead. Went and picked it up and there has to be 1000 lbs plus:what:. Some pure and some mixed lightly with antimony:D. Now we can get started in style. :) Im goin' out to fire the pot...where did I put that tin?:banghead: