Laser pistol for practice?

[woof]

I'd like to practice point shooting indoors and don't care for airsoft. I have practices basic pointing with a laser pointer, and I wonder if there isn't a dummy pistol with a laser built in? If not I was thinking of making one with a toy (or the airsoft I never use, with a pointer. Easier said that done though since the on switch for the laser would have to be the trigger.

[wuchak]

I think this is what you are looking for http://www.firstshotcounts.com/

[SHusky57]

Why not just use snap caps? What are you practicing?

[woof]

I saw first shot counts and $350 - $500 is more than I had in mind. What I want to practice is point shooting or instinct shooting, something I seem to be pretty good at naturally and would like to improve. I've tried airsoft and BB which allow me to see how my point translates into hitting the target. But neither of them have the flat trajectory of a bullet or a laser and my hunch is that we (or I) begin to compensate which would be counter practice.

What I had in mind, and what doesn't seem too hard to do is, for example, an airsoft pistol modified so a laser pointer is in the barrel. Then the laser has to be connected to the trigger. A 1/2 sec pulse for each trigger pull would be enough, I think, to see where my "shots" would have gone if they had been bullets.

I do this sometimes around the house with an ordinary laser pointer and frankly impress myself with how well and how quickly I can hit a spot on the wall or a doorknob etc. What I'd like to add is the familiar feel in the hand of a pistol and the use of the trigger.

[Pulse]

did you try a proper CO2 Pistol?
they shot .177 caliber pallets at up to 450f/s, drop is insignificant out to 10meters and they are in fact used for Olympic competition.

with a good backstop you can even do training inside the house.

[GrendelPrime]

I don't know if the laser would be enough to energize the sheet, but GitD sheets (http://kitkraft.biz/product.php?productid=3979&cat=374&page=1) are easy enough to come by, and would give immediate feedback of your shot placement.

Now you just need a laser pistol. :evil:

[Dr.Rob]

If you really want to point shoot that bad, use live ammo. Air soft and pointers are no substitute for the real thing.

[zombienerd]

My god.. I just had an idea for an invention :P

A "snap cap" with a laser inside. Coupled with a "dart board style target board" with Light sensors... You could take your standard gun, load in the snap cap, and shoot like normal...

Wonder how that would sell :P Bet I could design it pretty simply too :) Wherever you hit with the laser, a LED would turn on until you reset it...

Probably wouldn't cost more than $40-50 to build, I think I'm going to do this as soon as I get home from this trip in a month and a half :)

If it works, I'll publish a schematic and instructions on how to make them :P

[zombienerd]

My god.. I just had an idea for an invention :P

I really need to click links and try google before posting my "zings" :P

Everything "good" I think of has already been done :)

[owlhoot]

Twenty years ago I had six laser cartridges and a target device that recorder hits both aurally and visually. It was sold by Daisy of all people. The "cartridges" were battery powered. The firing pin hit a spring loaded primer that triggered a flash beam from the laser. You understand that the idea was ahead of its time and the technology wasn't perfect. The biggest complaint that I had was that batteries didn't last long. The unit was fairly inexpensive. Under $75. I used it in my living room to work on point shooting. The unit worked most of the time.

[jim_gun]

Inexpensive “Toy Gun” Approach ($15-$30)
http://www.amazon.com/WILD-WEST-GUNSLINGER-TARGET-SHOOTING/dp/B000I1CM2A
http://www.amazon.com/Jumpin%2592-Banana-Carnival-Duck-Shoot/dp/B000J6EHI6/ref=pd_sim_t_2

Red-Dot Laser in Real Steel: (about $250)
http://www.laserdevices.com/product.php?id=23

Red-Dot Laser Inside Bullet: Rovatec Bullite (around $200)
http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.php?target=category&category_id=2591
- Read the fine print on that page!

Laser Activated Target & Laser in Real Steel: BeamHit (around $350)
http://www.mpri.com
http://www.1st-shot-counts.com/products/products.html
- The LT-100C Laser is fairly delicate, so be careful adjusting it & don’t drop an auto’s slide with it on.

I prefer the Beam Hit 110 System, working with a double action revolver that provides realistic trigger pull over multiple shots, albeit without recoil. It’s expensive, but so are high-end airsoft pistols. For me it’s a matter of fitting in some practice, without the time commitment of going to the range.
Of course their’s no substitute for live fire.

Airsoft guns are for shooting at your friends, and this includes force-on-force training.

-JimT

[JImbothefiveth]

How does that first-shot work?

[andron]

Ebay has a dry fire laser for about $50.
I'm using it with my own handgun and airsoft pistol.

[John Parker]

If I had a laser pistol, I'd use it to blast space aliens!

[ScareyH22A]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't laser pointers sort of bad to practice with? I figure that if you're focusing on the front sight like you're supposed to, the dot on the target will covered and or out of focus. I think it teaches a really bad habit. Great for quick target acquisition no doubt.

[dmazur]

You might consider using a set of CT grips on your pistol for indoor dry-firing practice.

Some notes -

1. It's not the same thing as having the laser simulate the hit. Instead it lets you see how much you're pulling the iron sights off target when you squeeze the trigger. As you get better, the laser dot doesn't move when you dry fire.

2. I believe magazines should be removed to another location for this. You want the gun to be unloaded for dry-fire practice, and some deliberate action at the end of the session for reloading for storage. (If you keep a gun loaded for self-defense...) Keep focused on what you're doing. This can be done safely if you don't try watching TV, drinking beer, and dry-firing all at the same time. :)

3. I practice with both the iron sights and laser sights at the range. The irons are traditional, and I'm getting better groups faster than I was before the dry-fire practice. With the laser sights, I can get first as well as follow-up shots on target faster than with irons.