[greyhound]

I have to admit, this guy absolutely fascinates me. Here we have a person who

a) refuses to renounce his association with openly racist groups (MeCha. La Raza)

b) publicly and admittedly used the "N" word in a speech

Things like this would normally get a politician run out of town on a rail, yet ole Cruz is Lt Gov and one of the front runners for the Governors' seat!

How is this possible? At least on the "N" word thing he can't holler about the vast "Right Wing Conspiracy", though as I understand it he does pretty much duck the MeCha/La Raza thing, neither admitting or denying.

Is the desire to have a Democrat in the Governor's mansion so great a priority that all sense of fairness is suspended and Californians would be able to overlook some pretty damning incidents to put this guy in? Is there a double standard here by the left?

Like I said, this guy and his background fascinate me....

[Waitone]

Cruz is a real leader

1>screaming Marxist
2>self-professed racist
3>crooked as a dog's hind leg

Yep, sounds just like what California needs.

Is he the best California can do??????????

[Pilgrim]

Is he the best California can do??????????

I think he is essentially typical of what you will see in California politics in the foreseeable future.

Pilgrim

[KC]

"Is he the best California can do?"

At least from the Democratic Party.

[10-Ring]

Geez & regardless of what happens Oct 7th, he'll guaranteed to be Lt. Gov :banghead: :cuss: & still weaving his magic in CA politics :cuss: :fire:

[hansolo]

Bustamante.....I'd like to Bust-a-Cap:evil:

I didn't know about the "N" word thing....makes me hate him even more:barf:

[Destructo6]

I didn't know about the "N" word thing....makes me hate him even more
Not only did he use it publicly, but he used it in a Black History Month speech to black educators.
"If you heard what I think I heard, I want you to know it wasn't me," he said, a bit nonplussed. "It's not the way I was raised, it's not the way I was taught, it's not the way I raised my children and it's not what's in my heart."

Maybe not, but it is what came out of his mouth.

Here's the whole article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/wickham/2001-02-06-wickham.htm

[californian]

can we fix him up with Hillary and ship him off to New Jork??

[jimpeel]

He would cede CA back to Mexico in a heartbeat if he thought he could get away with it.

[SIGarmed]

You have to understand the Democrat strategy. They don't want a strong Democrat to run. They want a weak Dem because that way the recall may fail. The intent is to keep Gray Dufus in office, not to offer a better candidate.

[Standing Wolf]

Is the desire to have a Democrat in the Governor's mansion so great a priority that all sense of fairness is suspended and Californians would be able to overlook some pretty damning incidents to put this guy in? Is there a double standard here by the left?

Yes and yes.

America outgrew racism a long time ago. Only the leftist extremists still have a vested interest in perpetuating it.

[Bruce H]

If Boost-your-money were a white anglo-saxon male he would be in jail for his speech and affiliations. Being as how he isn't he can say and do anything he wants with immunity. Rag him on any subject related to him and it is discrimination against a minority. Lets all thank Jesse Jackson.

[Skunkabilly]

Coming to think of it, if CA went to the Mexicans, wouldn't that change the balance of power as far as the electoral votes?

[Bill Hook]

I'd vote for Cruz, were I a Kalifornian - right before I moved out.

I'm hoping he wins, b/c trying to salvage the downward spiral wrought by the leftists there will only serve to confuse the voters about the real foolhadiness of their policies and what the logical outcome of these must be.

Were a republican to get in, then the demo controlled legislature can stonewall, then blame HIM as the state crashes and burns - hoping Uncle Sugar bails them out, like the Marxists they are.

Kalifornia must be sacrificed as a shining example of how NOT to govern, otherwise the problem continues and spreads like cancer. Once the problem metastasizes, there won't be much we can do to stop it. It may even mean Americans will be forced to sneak into Mexico for the economic opportunities.

[KC]

Bill Hook:

You wrote, "Kalifornia must be sacrificed as a shining example of how NOT to govern..." I sincerely hope that was written in jest. It is an otherwise mind-numbingly stupid proposition to simply write off the 5th largest economy on the planet to a collection of tree-huggers and Neo-Marxists because age and prosperity softened the brains of a protion of the electorate. Remember, that state grows a hell of a lot of food that the US consumes, the hardware and software for the computers it uses (also created out in CA), the basic research that is bettering your life via biotech, has one of the best systems of higher education in the world, and on ad nauseum...and you want to toss that into a dumpster in a fit of pique?

[hillbilly]

Hey KC......

.........the awful truth is that if the wackos keep control of California, it won't be the 5th largest economy in the world for very flippin' long.

Already California citizens and California businesses are fleeing California in record numbers, at least if that recent story in the USA Today is to be believed.

It's not those outside California who are tossing California into the dumpster.

It's those in California who reflexively vote for wacked-out tree-huggers.

It wasn't people outside of California who put such crazy restrictions on the construction of new power plants that the 5th largest economy in the world has a power grid and an electrical supply on par with rural Mongolia.

How much longer will all those biotech companies stay in California if the confiscatory tax rates rise, and the wacky regulations stifle and restirct business?

Great companies don't grow up out of the soil, and they can and do pick up and move when their ability to make profit is hampered.

While it may be a low blow for people outside California to point fingers and laugh as the California economy burns, just remember it wasn't those of us outside of California who took the gasoline and the match to that economy........

hillbilly

[TekChef]

Kalifornia is NOT going to be the 5th largest economy much longer..you are going to see it drop like a rock in the ratings.

Yes, the population is going up-iilegals, etc..all WORKERS. The BUSSINESS OWNERS are packing up and leaving-if BustaMECHA gets in, expect to see that exodus increase. I am thinking that unemployment is goingto get much higher here-and with that crime, etc.

wait..that sounds like a 3rd world country.

I am leaving by next spring, and I know plenty who are thinking about selling their overvalued piece of real estate here while the getting is good.

The Rest of the US is gong to grow and overtake CA's importance.

[Bigjake]

hillbilly, i agree with ya totaly. let em burn too. sorry for all of you stuck in that hole, thank your leadership.

Kalifornia must be sacrificed as a shining example of how NOT to govern, otherwise the problem continues and spreads like cancer

oh so true.

[Bill Hook]

KC,

I mean every word of it, for reasons that hillbilly mostly covered. Kalifornia is soon to be the albatross around our collective necks and the produce can be grown in Mexico, not that I can tell much difference from Kalifornia. The jobs and companies can move. Biotech is pretty diversified/decentralized and many compnies are already moving out - Colorado is seeing an influx. A good chunk of the computer industry has moved manufacturing to Asia or Europe as well. Urbana-Champaign might become the next silicon valley, though it would seem that the Boston area would have first dibs..

[Henry Bowman]

He would cede CA back to Mexico in a heartbeat if he thought he could get away with it.

And would you oppose that? I wouldn't.

[Jim March]

Y'all can go do something impolite. There's good people here, some of us willing to fight for our homes rather than cutting and running.

[bountyhunter]

Say what you want about him, but the Cruiser has done what no other man on earth could have done:


Made me so disgusted I am going to vote for Gray Davis.

[Bill Hook]

Y'all can go do something impolite. There's good people here, some of us willing to fight for our homes rather than cutting and running.

There are always some destined for martyrdom.

That doesn't change my mind about hoping Kali implodes. Either that, or it explodes and the leftist filth overflows the rest of the country in a quantity too large to deal with.

[saddenedcitizen]

Have seen in many places the stance of - 'stay & fight'

Sorry, but sometimes one has to realize that winning
just isn't in the cards. This is why it's better to 'fold'
than 'keep playing'. Cut your losses.
You just aren't going to win.

The illegals & believers in 'more gov't is better' & recipients of
'free' money/health care/education/housing etc. etc. etc. are
simply outbreeding/out 'invading' those who believe otherwise.

Now, if the rest of the country is forced to 'bail out' California
though 'federal dollars' (read TAXPAYERS) then all is lost 'cause
there is no downside/consequences to the folly in California's
past and current behavior.

The belief will still be 'EVERYTHING FREE IN AMERICA' (see
West Side Story).

Until MANY things stop being PERCIEVED as being free, nothing
will change.

The illegals think that if Ca. is given back to Mexico (along
with Az, N.M. & southern Tx.) that everything will STILL BE
FREE (see above).

They have no concept (as many other people have no concept),
that NONE OF IT is free. SOMEONE has to pay for it !!!

Really on the road to 'recipients' out numbering 'contributors'
and then what ???
The contributors revolt and the recipients start screaming
discrimination/racism etc. etc. 'cause the trough is EMPTY !!

Get out while you can.

If Mr. Spacely becomes governor, it's only going to get a
LOT worse.

[tiberius]

Nah, We need a strong CA. There's a LOT of good people out there. It's not their fault that they've been over run by loonies, incompetents and sissies.

[Bigjake]

well then why havent the good people in kali that slop the hogs spoke up yet? surely they arent waiting for it to "get better by itself".

[winstonsmith]

.... till I have a vote.


Jim March, that's very noble of you. I admire that. However, the way things are looking, the day I turn 18, I'm driving east, into the United States. And I'm not coming back. The leftists can have their hellhole.

Re: Bustamonte. He's a greasy piece of liberal excretement. I'd rather eat his weight in beans than see him in office

[KC]

Wow.
I've read of the phrase "sunshine patriot" before. Never thought I'd see an example of it.

[El Rojo]

I hope all of the good people move out of California and it becomes the worse liberal hell hole anyone has ever seen. Then I hope all of those Congress people and the two senators use their power and influence along with the liberal media to make California the stepping stone for what happens in the rest of the country. Then I want to see all of the loud mouths in this thread that think they are so high and mighty realize that they are suddenly outnumbered and facing few options because they didn't mind losing a very powerful and influential state to liberals because they felt their little haven of America wouldn't get touched. I would like to see an assault weapons bill reach the president and see him sign in before the next election. I want to see the rest of you moan and complain and realize you are out voted and screwed just like the good people of California. Why? Because you don't mind seeing my home state fall, so what is the big deal if you all have the same gun restrictions that I have? After all, it doesn't hurt me any right? Same way as you write off California, why should I give a darn if more gun control comes down on you guys?

Tell you what. I am going to still support the NRA even though the California Rifle and Pistol Association is what really matters. I am still going to vote in my conservative congressman so he can be one more vote for the national movement. I will try and get a better conservative senator in for you guys too. I will go ahead and voice my opinion about federal legislation even though just about everything that any liberal feds introduce won't be any worse than I already have. It would be nice if some of you would lend that support to California instead of burying your head in the sand and hoping that the war will never spill out of California. I hope your pre WWI and WWII attitude works and that you can isolate yourselves and this battle never comes to you. You might have to put your money where your mouth is. [/end rant]

[Chaingun]

Just on the news today, look what BustaMeCHA's sister Nao did

http://sfgate.com/offbeat/naoindig.html

http://www.johnandkenshow.com/

[Bill Hook]

El Rojo,

In case you haven't noticed, Kali IS the worst liberal hellhole (well, maybe New Jersey) and its two Sens. and most of its reps ARE working to bring anti-freedom, anti-capitalist legislation to us all. In the end, the rest of us, in the more free regions of the US of A will end up bankrolling Kalifornia parasites the way honest, gainfully employed kalifornians do now with its innumerable left-wing politicians, tree huggers and illegals. I hardly see how the rest of us have "lost" anything - it has been lost for quite some time, only the realization is beginning to sink in for the slow learners (aka current Kalifornia residents of the conservative and pro-RKBA stripes).

The truth hurts, I know. I'd say that you're being intentionally deluded by the leftist kommiefornicators into believing you have a chance to make a difference, since they need folks who work for a living to fund their grandiose schemes for giveaways to the have-nots, both from this country and for those from others who make it over the border. Come on, man! Wake up! The illegal who just got his driver's license at the DMV 3-4 hours after sneaking across will already be registered to vote by the coming election. He won't be voting for any Republican and probably no one with a gringo-sounding last name.

[El Rojo]

Go ahead Bill, roll over and accept your fate. Give up and let them do as they wish. You neglect the simplest of facts. #1: Californian's had 1.6 million people sign a petition to recall the worst governor in the history of the state because of his policies. #2: Because of his last minute actions like raising the car tax and giving illegal aliens drivers licenses, he looks to be straigt on his way out. #3: Why do you need a drivers license to lie on the voter registration form? If they want to committ voter fraud, they can do it already.

No Bill, we can and are making a difference. We are taking steps to say enough is enough. Record numbers of new voters have registered all over the state. People are finally waking up and realizing that they can't afford to let these liberals run the state to its death. People are pissed off about the car tax. People are pissed off about paying for illegal aliens with that money.

In typical fashion, it is posters like Bill that piss us Californians off. They sit from their high perch and tell us all is lost and they don't offer any encouragement or support. Just tales of doom and gloom and how we will never make a difference. Well guess what. We will make a difference on October 7. We have made a difference already. To those of you who don't live in California and want to tell us PRK residents all about how screwed we are, do us a favor, keep it to yourselves. We are not stupid as some might claim. We live here. We know the rules and we know the stakes better than any of you who don't live here. So if any of my fellow Californian's agree with Bill and they want to roll over and accept their fate at the hands of the liberals of this state, do us a favor and move out of the state. If you care about your rights and you don't want to move out of Czechoslavakia and into Poland in order to avoid the war, stay here and fight now. I hope that many of you don't have that defeated attitude and realize you either vote and get active as it is far less destructive than the final alternative.

And enough with the illegal alien voting and taking over the world hysteria. Does anyone have any sort of documentation that a field worker who just got done with a 12 hour shift is going to sign a voter registration form with his information on there and actually show up at the polls where there is a good chance immigration is there checking out these suspicious registrations just so they can keep the politicians in office that so many white people think are the illegal immigrants best friends? Sure La Migra (immigration) isn't probably going to be there, but how are you going to think as an illegal alien? I could be wrong here, but I don't there are hords of illegals out there trying to vote. Maybe some, but I just don't think it is worth it to many of these people. So if any of you who make such a claim have some sort of documentation to show that illegal aliens are voting in record numbers and taking over the state, it would be nice to see. I wouldn't try the they don't get caught so there is no way to know exactly how many are voting, but it is probably a lot argument. It is weak.

[Sven]

Amen.

[Tamara]

With all due respect...

When a patient's heart monitor flatlines and the medicos go into overdrive to resuscitate the person, it's a noble and heroic sight. When they're still trying to do it two hours later, it's just kinda sad. The fact that Bustamonte is even a legitimate gubernatorial candidate speaks volumes about how long that *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* sound has been going on. Best of luck to y'all, but the view looks grim from out here. :uhoh:

[hansolo]

I would LIKE to think that the folks from other states who are cheering California's demise are the minority; that MOST supporters of the 2nd are good people who understand that "jumping ship" is for the weak and cowardly. We who live in California by choice and are actively trying to improve the plight of lawful gun enthusiasts would appreciate a little moral support from our brothers and sisters from the rest of the country; to continually "slam" California and root for it's destruction are throwing gas on the flames of the anti-gun proponents. I voted for McClintock by absentee ballot and, contrary to the polls, believe it ain't over 'till it's over(election day); with someone like Mr. McClintock as governor, California could become a gun-friendly place. cool:

[Bill Hook]

Yep, I suppose those who fled over the Berlin Wall were weak and cowardly. The really noble one were those who stayed behind to drive the engines of communism. :rolleyes:

McClintock as governor wouldn't do sh--. Not with an unfriendly legislature. That is where you have your work cut out and why I'm not as sanguine as those who still live in Kalifornia. Personally, I think you guys would be better served working for the sucession of N. California from the rest, Bay Area and on down.

The way I see it is that any Kalifornian who flees b/c of the dire leftist politics of the state means a stronger voting bloc elsewhere. So long as we have a bicameral legislature w/ one house that guarantees equal representation for each state, we can fight off the grabbers. Moving to AZ, OR, CO, NV, WA, NM would all be smart moves, since these nearby states are having an influx of confused leftist kalifornians who can't connect the reasons why they left with their political beliefs. You can throw things back right and keep the Senators in these states non-grabbers (and kick McCain's a-- out the door).

[Felonious Monk]

Cauliflornia
The Granola State
Land of Fruits, Nuts and Flakes. :D

[STW]

I'm sorry no one mentioned that Cruz has said good riddance to businesses that don't pay high enough wages. Once might suspect that he's never had to make a payroll. One might also suspect that he lacks insight into basic economics. Wait! Isn't he a product of California schools?
Luckily I had a solid base built in primary schools in MT and NV and even read a book once.

[greyhound]

I was at work today and somebody started talking about the Cali recall so I said "Yeah, and Bustamecha wants..."

Luckily no one noticed but me, I work at a place very much left of center.

Too much THR, I guess :D

[BenW]

I think you guys would be better served working for the sucession of N. California from the rest, Bay Area and on down.
If we're going to start talking about splitting the state: for the record it's East - West not North - South.
:D

[El Rojo]

Personally, I think you guys would be better served working for the sucession of N. California from the rest, Bay Area and on down.So who gets the better end of the deal? The North or the South? LA County had 200,000 more votes for Davis in the last election than for Simon. You cut it in half, you will still have big LA influence in the south and big Bay Area influence in the north. So you want an additional liberal state to add to the woes of the country? This is why I tire of non-Californians having answers for Californians, they don't always know what they are talking about.

Moving out of the state is not necessarily the answer. I don't think many of the states around us need help being conservative. Next, wouldn't it be nice to have those 55 PRK electoral votes? Or lets tally up the states you listed and their electoral votes. AZ 10 + OR 7 + CO 9 + NV 5 + WA 11 + NM 5 = 47 electoral votes total (2002 numbers). Wow, that is a pretty good trade off. We give up 54 without a fight in exchange we get 47. Sounds like the same math that the Democrats used in creating the budget mess we have now. Now in all fairness, I understand that those other states have a total of 12 Senators and 35 Members of Congress compared to California's 2 Senators and 53 Members of Congress. I was unable to find the data for 2003 from the Statistical Abstract of the US Section 7: Elections, but from the 107th Congress (the last Congress, we are on 108) we have the following breakdown.

California 32 Democrats, 20 Republicans

AZ 1 Dem, 5 Reps
OR 4 Dems, 1 Rep
CO 2 Dems, 4 Reps
NV 1 Dem, 1 Rep
WA 6 Dems, 3 Reps
NM 1 Dem, 2 Reps
Ttl 15 dems, 16 Reps

Again, even if we made a straight away trade, you would only gain 15 seats (approximate based on 107th Congress data) and give up the rest of California's 20 seats. Seems like a bad deal to me. The only place you serve to gain is possibly the Senate.

Based on the above information, I think you have underestimated the importance of California in the federal picture. You can continue to give California and its remaining 20 congressional seats to the liberals by encouraging more immigration out of California or you can try and get the fence sitters to try and retake what is otherwise a great place to live. I am here for the long haul. I plan on fighting the political fight until it gets so bad politics don't matter anymore. I don't need your negative attitude, false assumptions, and erroneous theories making it harder on me and easier for the enemy especially when the only reason most of the non-PRK posters seem to want to post about the PRK is to belittle and condemn those of us who chose to fight.

[sidenote] Yes I spent about an hour looking up that data and procrastinating from doing real homework. The things you will do when you are procrastinating school work.

[Bigjake]

""Moving out of the state is not necessarily the answer. I don't think many of the states around us need help being conservative. Next, wouldn't it be nice to have those 55 PRK electoral votes? Or lets tally up the states you listed and their electoral votes. AZ 10 + OR 7 + CO 9 + NV 5 + WA 11 + NM 5 = 47 electoral votes total (2002 numbers). Wow, that is a pretty good trade off. We give up 54 without a fight in exchange we get 47. Sounds like the same math that the Democrats used in creating the budget mess we have now. Now in all fairness, I understand that those other states have a total of 12 Senators and 35 Members of Congress compared to California's 2 Senators and 53 Members of Congress. I was unable to find the data for 2003 from the Statistical Abstract of the US Section 7: Elections, but from the 107th Congress (the last Congress, we are on 108) we have the following breakdown.""


No need to move if we just get them to sucede or give it back to mexico. them numbers seem way more appealing to me. hell the mexicans seem to own most of it already.....

[TheLastBoyScout]

I hope he gets elected, and pulls something utterly stupid re:hispanic superiority... sooner or later someone like him will, and the sooner the liberal laws passed in california are exposed as the sabotage they are, the better.

[Pilgrim]

Nation of Aztlan Endorses Cruz Bustamante
----------------------------------------------------

Estimada Raza de Aztlan

Greetings from the Revolutionary Council and
Provisional Government of Aztlan

Next Tuesday October 7, Nuestra Raza will have an
unprecedented and outstanding opportunity to elect one
of our own as Governor of Alta California. It has
been a very long struggle since the invasion of our
territories and this election will not be handed to
us in a silver platter. We must do everything humanly
possible to bring out our gente to vote on October 7.
Every community committee and MEChA Chapter
throughout the state must work diligently and
tirelessly next Tuesday to bring out the vote on
behalf of Cruz Bustamante. Remember "Dump Davis -
Elect Bustamante"

Throughout the recall campaign, Cruz Bustamante has
proven himself to be a loyal soldier for La Raza. He
did not buckle under intense pressure to disown or
renounce the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan
(MEChA). This is sufficient proof that he will remain
loyal to our people if elected. There is no question
that Cruz Bustamante is the best choice in this period
of our political development.

La Raza de Alta California has arrived at this
juncture through a combination of hard work and sheer
luck. The hard work consisted in registering our
gente to vote and in implementing political education
programs in our communities. The sheer luck was a
consequence of certain events that combined to lock-in
Cruz Bustamante in a situation that presents him with
a great chance to win the election. The first is that,
as Lt. Governor, he was at the right place at the
right time. The second is that Governor Gray Davis
happens to be an incompetent of the worst kind. The
third is that there was a Republican millionaire that
financed the collection of signatures for the recall.
The fourth is that Cruz Bustamante seized upon the
opportunity and declared himself a candidate. And the
fifth and last is that there are two Republicans that
will split their vote.

Estimada Raza, let us not forgo this opportunity to
elect a governor of Mexican descent since the end of
the US war against Mexico. Let us make October 7, 2003
a historic day for our people, a day that will be
remembered as the day when we began the retaking of
our lost territories.

Remember "Dump Davis - Elect Bustamante"

Hasta La Victoria Siempre,

Cuauhtli
Minister of Information
Nation of Aztlan
for the RC-PGA

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Forwarded by
La Voz de Aztlan
http://www.aztlan.net

[tiberius]

Nation of Aztlan Endorses Cruz Bustamante

If they're still a "nation" why they messin' around in 'merican elections? :)

[KC]

These "Aztlan" types sound awfully familiar....

Oh, wait, I know. Change the name to something Arabic, and they sound like any number of other terrorist groups. Certainly, they have the whole anti-Jew thing down pat, they have their own religion that has a great many unacceptable tenants (cannibalism among others*) to Western societies, and they hate the US.


Heck, we haven't invaded Mexico yet this century. Maybe the US could do something else this time, given that the lessons of the prior invasions haven't stuck. OR, we could just roll over and die, what so many in other states are rabidly encouraging Californians to do.




*This is not meant to imply that Islam endorses or practices human sacrifice or cannibalism. Excepting, of course, this whole 'suicide-bomber' thing....And slavery. And also misogeny. Maybe a couple of other congruent points. Aside these three points, there are no correlations. Oh, and loosing repeatedly and badly to Western militaries, societies, and technology.

[Bill Hook]

El Rojo said....


I DID note that Kali should be split from the Bay Area down, so all the tree huggers go in one shot, save for the hardcore kind who sit nude smoking weed and worshipping Mt. Shasta.

I don't really care about the house of reps., since that is a hard battle to win, with liberal states having larger populations and even said that the true battle for control should be the Senate. See the thread about population control for low IQs. The least intelligent are roughly 67% of the pop, since this covers the middle and left hand sides of the gaussian curve and they vote, but not in large quantities, based on their numbers (thank god).

You also miscalculated on the representation numbers, from what I read, since you didn't factor in the population increases and reapportionment of the surrounding states. Each state would gain some of what Kali lost and add seats PLUS they each have TWO senators to elect, which are weighted more heavily than representatives.



As to the Aztlan nonsense, I wonder if any of these morons can grasp the reason all these illegals want to be in the USA, and it ain't historical land claims, which the indians have a better right to (and the indians that make up the mestizo bloodlines never had any claim to the region). The illegals are here b/c of economic opportunity, which the sovereign nation of Mexico can't provide, so what makes them think annexation by this nation will lead to the prosperity they claim to desire? Maybe if the Socialists running things had brown skin instead? :rolleyes:

[tiberius]

I don't really care about the house of reps., since that is a hard battle to win

Texas will most likely be sending 5 new Republicans to the house in 2004. Redistricting should finally be completed this week. California isn't the only big state. :)

[Bill Hook]

Texas is somewhat an aberration, since leftist sh--holes like Kali, NY, NJ, and IL (okay, Chicago) dominate, population-wise. Then there are the large swing states of OH, MI, FL that contain lotsa union voters, who'd realize that unions and democrats don't believe what they believe, if they stopped watching football and drinking beer long enough to follow the issues - the new version of "bread and circuses," I guess. Instead, I think they vote for whoever doesn't seem like a whiny elitist or some sort of "fairy." GWB seemed like a regular guy more than comrade Gore and his old man was an improvement on Dukakis, so they each won.

[bountyhunter]

Then I want to see all of the loud mouths in this thread that think they are so high and mighty realize that they are suddenly outnumbered and facing few options

That really is the point. We are outnumbered in kali, we do vote, and we LOSE! It's called democracy in action... the side with the most votes wins, not necessarily the side with the smartest people or right opinions.

Some people call it "tyranny of the majority".... but that's just another name for democracy if you are on the minority side. Bottom line, if your state fills up with a-holes and you keep getting outvoted, there isn't much you can do about it unless you want to try an armed revolt.

[greyhound]

Next Tuesday October 7, Nuestra Raza will have an

Been a long time since high school Spanish, but doesn't "Nuestra Raza" mean "New Race"? What the heck? Are they combining Werewolves and Vampires like in the new movie "Underworld"? If so look out...:D