Charles Daly 1911: Hammer/Safety issues?


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stevemis
January 17, 2009, 04:41 PM
I just returned from a gun show, where I had the pleasure of looking over two Charles Daly Field ECS 1911's.

I noticed the first pistol had a very nice trigger. A little takeup, but a crisp clean break. Unfortunately, on my second trigger pull, I noticed the hammer cammed FORWARD when I got past the initial takeup. At that point, it appeared to be fully cocked (the hammer did NOT drop or enter half-cock) but the thumb safety would not engage. I was able to replicate this several times without any trouble.

The only way to remedy this is to pull the hammer back into a fully-cocked position, at which point the safety can be engaged.

I pointed this out to the dealer, who gave me a blank stare. He re-appeared with the second ECS which acted exactly the same way.

I've owned quite a few 1911's and don't ever recall seeing this. Is this feature an acceptable one, or is something wrong? I'm guessing something isn't right with the hammer/sear mating surfaces.

Otherwise, I really liked the ECS. Fit and finish was surprisingly nice given the price ($500-ish).

Thanks,

Steve

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rcmodel
January 17, 2009, 04:52 PM
Very seriously something wrong with both of them!

Could be any of several things, any one of which could cause an ND, and a trip to the horsepittle, if not worse.

rc

Old Fuff
January 17, 2009, 05:49 PM
For $500 I would have bought it, and then sent it in and had it fixed. Charles Daly's president is a member of this forum... :evil: ;)

stevemis
January 17, 2009, 06:33 PM
Fuff, I know. I might have bought it, but the price was a wee bit high and I'm not sure if KBI would issue a call tag. Overpaying for a broken gun and then having to blow $50 on overnight shipping doesn't seem like a financial "win" for me.

I'm all for "getting dangerous guns off the streets"...:) You know, "for the children."

This particular Field model is 0 for 2, so it sounds like there's a manufacturing/QC issue they need to address. I'll try to swing by the show tomorrow and locate the dealer, scribble down the serial numbers tomorrow and pass them over to Michael for further investigation.

Thanks,

Steve

stevemis
January 19, 2009, 01:57 PM
That slimebag dealer had both pistols for sale on Sunday when I returned, after I told him they weren't safe. He also jacked the price up from $525 to $575 for the blued version.

I pity the fool who takes one of those home.

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