124gr & 147gr Speer GD Load Data Request


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KegCommando
January 18, 2009, 05:50 PM
Powders on Hand:

W-231
Universal
HS-6

Wouldn't mind info for the following either since I plan on picking up a pound of each to try when they are back in stock locally:

Unique
WSF

I'd prefer the W-231 since I have several pounds of that.

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45ACPUSER
January 18, 2009, 06:04 PM
Why not consult the Hodgdon web site?

rcmodel
January 18, 2009, 06:05 PM
Speer #13 manual:
124 GD
231 = 4.0 - 4.5
Uni = 4.5 - 5.0
HS-6 = 6.0 - 6.7
Unique = 5.2 - 5.8

147 G-D:
HS-6 = 5.0 - 5.6
Unique = 3.8 - 4.3

A leaflet from a box of 147 G-D says:
HS-6 = 5.1 - 5.7
Unique = 4.0 - 4.5

The other powders are too fast for a 147.

WSF is not listed for either.

rc

KegCommando
January 18, 2009, 06:12 PM
Thanks RC,

Geez, I can't read the forum posts fast enough. I have no idea how you read them and answer them as quick as you do!

rcmodel
January 19, 2009, 03:22 PM
We get the internet signal here in Kansas several minutes ahead of the rest of the world. :D

rc

Walkalong
January 19, 2009, 04:24 PM
Did Al Gore fix that up for you special? :D

KegCommando
January 19, 2009, 04:31 PM
A leaflet from a box of 147 G-D says:
HS-6 = 5.1 - 5.7
Unique = 4.0 - 4.5

Missed that line the first time I read it.

I assume it was one of those lawyer liability things, but do you know when Speer stopped including those leaflets? I pulled out an unopened box of their 115gr GD that have been sitting in my garage for about 10 years just in case and it didn't contain one. :(


We get the internet signal here in Kansas several minutes ahead of the rest of the world

Ah, so I gotta move if I want first crack of reloading components when they get back in stock!

rcmodel
January 19, 2009, 04:48 PM
but do you know when Speer stopped including those leafletsNo, I don't know. A buddy gave me a box of 124's and a box of 147's last year.

The 147's had a leaflet and the 124 didn't.

But I don't know how old the bullets were when he got them.

The Speer #13 manual has 147 data that is slightly lower then the leaflet, so I might guess they came along before the #13 manual in 1998? But I really don't know.

rc

rfwobbly
January 19, 2009, 10:28 PM
We get the internet signal here in Kansas several minutes ahead of the rest of the world.

So Kansas gets the information super highway, while the rest of us get the information dirt road !!

huntershooter
January 19, 2009, 10:44 PM
I've used 6.5-6.7 gr. HS-6 with the 124 gr. GD for years.
Shoots well from my P-35's and 1911 (9mm).

ArchAngelCD
January 20, 2009, 06:08 AM
I like W231, HS-6 and Longshot when loading for the 9mm. Since you already have 2 of those powders you're all set up IMO. W231 is very good for light to medium rounds and HS-6 will pack a little more punch, especially when loading the heavier 147gr bullet.

KegCommando
January 20, 2009, 04:55 PM
Arch,

Got a recommended load for the W-231?

Thx

ArchAngelCD
January 21, 2009, 03:27 AM
I usually don't load a quality bullet in the 9mm because the reloads are used for practice. With a 124/125gr FMJ bullet I load 4.6gr W231 which is a good plinker but not really a SD load. HS-6 would make a much better SD load IMO. If you're shooting those rounds in a small gun I usually drop the charge to 4.4gr W231.

BTW, with a 125gr LRN .356" bullet I charge 4.0gr W231 for a practice round.

Walkalong
January 21, 2009, 11:21 AM
HS-6 would make a much better SD load IMO.Yep. HS-6, AA #5, N330, N340.

W-231 is great for lead or plated practice loads, but a bit slower powder is better for jacketed bullets pushed hard.

KegCommando
January 21, 2009, 11:33 PM
Thank you gentlemen

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