Old Rifles for Hog Hunting


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Todd1700
January 19, 2009, 01:17 PM
Some of our land has quite a hog infestation. So when life hands you lemons make lemonade. I have been having a blast stalk hunting them with my old open sighted military surplus rifles. Killed this one with the rifle in the photo. A M/28 Finnish mosin nagant and a 203 grain silver bear soft point.


http://usera.imagecave.com/Todd1700/Big%20Hog.jpg

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Speedo66
January 19, 2009, 02:13 PM
Looks like you'll be eating bacon for a while. Nice hog.

351 WINCHESTER
January 19, 2009, 06:52 PM
I killed 3 with my lee enfield. Great rifle for sure. I took pictures of one of them with my neighbors digital camera and have been trying to get someone to post pictures here for ya'll.

goodtime
January 21, 2009, 02:49 AM
Todd1700 --
I've got a mosin nagant M91/30. Picked it up about a year ago and never had the chance to shoot it, but I'm curious. Is yours accurate?

Todd1700
January 21, 2009, 07:37 AM
Goodtime, I own 4 different variants of the Mosin Nagant rifle. The one in the photo used to kill the hog is a M/28 finnish version. All finnish versions of the Mosin Nagant have a good reputation for accuracy and the one above is no exception. Now I also own a 91/30 Russian Mosin Nagant and while it will not shoot as tight a group as my M/28 or M/39 finnish Mosins it will consistently keep 3 shots using 180 grain Wolf Gold bullets at or under 3 inches at 100 yards. Not scoped benchrest accuracy to be sure but then we are talking open sights and a 70 year old WW2 rifle. How well your rifle will shoot will naturally depend on it's individual condition. In particular the condition of the riflings in the barrel. But I'd be willing to bet that it would shoot at least as well. Three inch groups at 100 yards may not sound impressive by modern rifle standards but it's hot death on a deer sized animal at that range.

goodtime
January 21, 2009, 01:34 PM
That's accurate enough for me. Especially for a $79.00 rifle. Mine's in pretty good shape, rifling included. I shoot handguns on a regular basis, but getting to a rifle range is not as easy. I'm going to make it a point to get to one soon; I want to try this rifle. Thanks for the info.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
January 21, 2009, 02:30 PM
Looks great! :)

RustyShackleford
January 21, 2009, 05:38 PM
Shot these with my k-31, I admit its sporterized.... but its still an old rifle, and a tack driver at that.

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr182/topper4004/IMAG0003.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr182/topper4004/IMAG0028.jpg

qajaq59
January 22, 2009, 07:22 AM
That's a nice hog. Good shooting.

Mp7
January 22, 2009, 09:06 AM
oh mama, iŽd so much rather join you guys in the woods, then
sit here in my office chair and congratulate via interent :sigh:

Marlin 45 carbine
January 22, 2009, 09:30 AM
good sized hog there Todd. my neighbors dad down in N.E. 'Bama hunts 'em with a 6.5mm Swede.
I use a Mini 30 myself or my Marlin Camp .45acp w/+P loads myself.

mavracer
January 22, 2009, 10:47 AM
GREAT,we are planing a trip in the spring now I'm gonna have to take my 110 year old 30-40 Krag.

MCgunner
January 22, 2009, 10:58 AM
That ain't "old".....

This ain't old, but it's old school:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=67872&d=1196012439

H&Hhunter
January 22, 2009, 11:59 AM
I do also enjoy hunitng hogs with old style iron sighted rifles.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/GTAllyn/Hogsdogsdoubleswebready1.jpg

MCgunner
January 22, 2009, 01:50 PM
What caliber is that one? Looks rather large and I notice those hogs are petty well dead. :D

H&Hhunter
January 22, 2009, 02:12 PM
It is a .470 Nitro Express.

If you're gonna hunt wee little piggies in Texas always, always use enough gun!;)

MCgunner
January 22, 2009, 02:21 PM
Which hurt worse after the shot, you or him? Bwaaaaa, ha, ha! I think you had the caliber covered, put it that way. LOL

H&Hhunter
January 22, 2009, 05:30 PM
It is kind of like using an f-16 fighter plane for crop dusting. The amount of power available isn't an issue.:D

LeonCarr
January 22, 2009, 05:52 PM
Mr. H&H,

F-16? More like a C-5B Galaxy :).

There is no such thing as overkill on hogs.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

dagger dog
January 22, 2009, 07:43 PM
H&H,

That is one nice lookin rifle, the wood is really nice is it hand rubbed oil? The checkering looks great. I see you have enough recoil pad on it. Does it thump much, looks like the stock is fairly straight, and if it is does it rise much during recoil ,or is the push straight back? Does the back of the trigger guard bite into the middle finger.

That is the rifle I see in my sweetest dreams !

H&Hhunter
January 22, 2009, 08:15 PM
DD

the wood is really nice is it hand rubbed oil?

Yes it it is a hand rubbed oil finish.

Does it thump much

I know this sounds funny but it is really pretty mild to shoot it weighs almost 11 Lbs

looks like the stock is fairly straight, and if it is does it rise much during recoil ,or is the push straight back?

The muzzle rise is very mild.

Does the back of the trigger guard bite into the middle finger.


When I first started shooting it the answer to that question was a definite YES it was a finger bashing SOB!

Then I learned from some old time double rifle shooters how to hold a double and it hasn't been an issue since. When you grip the rifle don't try to pinch the forend with your fingers. Grab the the rifle with your hand wrapping your fingers around the barrels using that splinter forend as a palm swell. And really grip it with a firm hand. That stops any and all finger bashing from the trigger guard and I guess this is the way that you are supposed to hang on to a British style double rifle. It sure works for me.

And oh by the way if you are doing some shooting you will quickly find out why you see the Brits wearing a shooting glove on the weak hand when shooting a splinter forended double. Those barrels after a few rounds will sizzle your little pinkies to a well done char without a glove in no time flat!:D

PS

I don't have this rifle anymore. I traded it for a upgraded version the old one was a Field Grade my new one is a PH model which is still s solid working double but it has a rounded action looking more like an original H&H style rifle and a wood up grade.

I'll see if I can get some pics posted later today.

H&Hhunter
January 22, 2009, 09:10 PM
Here are some pics of the new .470.

It is pretty much the same gun with up graded wood and a more rounded action.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/GTAllyn/DoubleriflestockPHmodel-1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/GTAllyn/DoubleriflePH.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/GTAllyn/DoubleriflePHreciever.jpg

Here is what I am talking about with the forend grip.

The wrong way.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/GTAllyn/Doubleriflegrip2.jpg

The right way

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/GTAllyn/Doubleriflegrip1.jpg

MCgunner
January 22, 2009, 11:13 PM
Back when I used to hunt ducks and geese with a double 12, I came home on good days with the worst swelling in the middle finger from that blasted trigger guard. I never knew this technique. I shall try it if I ever pick up that old war horse to use on something, again. LOL. It's sort of retired from waterfowl hunting in difference to steel shot laws and I haven't used it for waterfowl or much of anything in 30 years.

Very nice looking double rifle. I'm a sucker for high grade twice pipes, though it's usually a shotgun I'm drooling over.:D

H&Hhunter
January 22, 2009, 11:44 PM
MC,

Just be sure to bring your shooting glove or your fingers will be Kentucky fired in short order.:D

The other thing when shooting a double, shotgun or rifle is that the forend hand does all the work it supports the gun it swings the gun it holds the gun. The trigger hand is just that it pulls the trigger. Your trigger hand has almost no pressure on the wrist of the gun it is loose.

Try it on your twice pipe next time you'll be shocked at how much nicer it becomes to shoot.

Todd1700
January 23, 2009, 06:45 AM
It is a .470 Nitro Express.

Well I guess you are obviously an advocate of the priciple "Bring enough gun". LOL! Beautiful rifle H&H and I'm sure it makes for quite a hog thumper. Just out of curiousity what is the grain weight of the bullets you are using.

CSA 357
January 23, 2009, 09:07 AM
Nice hogs! I love to hog hunt, but since i have moved to alabama i havent found a place to go, they are alot of fun and they eat good too! Tood, if you need any help with them rooters give me a holler! Csa

H&Hhunter
January 23, 2009, 11:19 AM
Just out of curiousity what is the grain weight of the bullets you are using.

Todd,

It shoots either a 500 gr or a 510 gr bullet at 2150 FPS for just over 5,000 ftlbs of energy.

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