If You Can Carry Legally, Do You?


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DeepintheHeart
January 20, 2009, 10:10 PM
I recently completed my CHL class and sent in my paperwork. I must say, the class caused me to really think about what I am proposing to do. It's a lot of responsibility carrying a gun and being prepared to use it in the right circumstances. I work for an employer (IBM) who makes it a condition of employment that I NOT bring a gun to work. They also post a sign on the doors, but it does not conform to Texas state law. (Wonder how they missed that.) Despite the non-conforming sign, if I were found to be carrying at work I'd be fired. (I can keep a gun in my car while at work, since its in the parking lot.) My question is, how many of you who have a CHL actually do carry most of the time? When do you make exceptions? Are there folks, especially in states that have the "Castle Doctrine", that just carry a handgun in their cars and have one readily accessible at home? In Texas, that would no longer seem to require a CHL. The Castle Doctrine alone would cover those environs.

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Duke of Doubt
January 20, 2009, 10:14 PM
I carry most of the time, though I often have to leave my carry piece in the car, or sometimes at home. I spend a lot of time in courthouses, municipal offices, banks and post offices. Not to mention local taverns.

Blarelli
January 20, 2009, 10:18 PM
I carry virtually all day. I go to school at 9 in the morning, gun goes with me. I get home from work at about 1 in the morning, guns still on my hip. Only time I don't carry is when I go to church.

Kind of Blued
January 20, 2009, 10:21 PM
I carry TWO at all times that it is legal for me to do so. I also spend 70% of my conscious time in places where I'd get "booted" if I was "made". I understand your situation, and I didn't "break policies" until I was completely convinced that I looked exactly the same while carrying as I did when I was not. My advice is to try different things around town until you get to that point. The trick is concealable guns in the right holsters in the right places.

Flat guns with short grips, in a tuckable holster are the key to IWB (inside-the-waistband) carry.

Small guns (all around) in a good pocket holster are the key there.

Light guns, longer pantlegs, and longer socks are the key to ankle carry (sock holds the whole deal further up your leg). You can also get a strap that holds it further up, but they're uncomfortable and don't work as well as well as a scrunched up sock.

Let me know if you want specific gun, holster, and carry location recommendations and I can post them here.

Also, congratulations on the decision and progress. It's a big responsibility, but being able to protect yourself and loved ones is an invaluable reward.

DeepintheHeart
January 20, 2009, 10:28 PM
Kind of Blued, thanks for your reply. I'm still waiting for the license, and I'm doing some thinking about what gun and what holster. I'm leaning to a Ruger LCP or Kel-Tech P-3AT and a pocket holster. At training, they recommended a Merlin "fanny pack" holster. I'm on the XXL side, 50 inch waist, and I wear suspenders. Any recommendations there? My current gun is probably too clunky to carry on a regular basis, a Ruger P89.

Treo
January 20, 2009, 10:32 PM
Only time I don't carry is when I go to church.

Cause bad guys never shoot up churches right?

To the question

Armed to the teeth baby, The list of places I can't carry is short in Colorado & none of them are places I have to go.

geronimo509
January 20, 2009, 10:34 PM
I carry all of the time! period! I dont when I go to the post office ( i dont go there:neener:) Or anywhere else that fed or state law says I can't:scrutiny:. I live in PA, so I can go just about anywhere with my ccw/chl/chp(whatever you wanna call it) PA has a Castle Doctrine, however state law says you cannot carry in a car with out a chl (not sure what you meant by what your post says about the car)

ps. It is a HUGE responsibility!! But a very good one also

rbernie
January 20, 2009, 10:35 PM
I live in TX and have a TX CHL. My employer has a non-compliant 'no weapons' sign at the entrance to the parking lot and all building entrances. They could not charge me with criminal trespass, but they could fire me, if they determined that I had a weapon in the car. Essentially, it is legal to carry in my place of employment but my employer's policy colloquially forbids it.

It is entirely possible that some would be willing to risk that, because my employer is probably not going to provide an armed guard for their employees on their way to/from work. It is also entirely possible that some folk in my position would engage in off-body carry (using a modified DayTimer) when in the office.

Not that I'd EVER do such things and upset my employer, mind you - it's just that some folk *could* do it if they had a mind to, ya know?

It is a truism that trouble strikes at the oddest times. You can't schedule when you'll need a firearm, so as a general rule it's probably best to always have one handy.

glockman19
January 20, 2009, 10:36 PM
It's a lot of responsibility carrying a gun and being prepared to use it in the right circumstances.

YES it is. I take the act
of carrying very seriously. I hope to never have to use it. It will only come out when my life or that of a companion is threatened...and...if it does come out...my life IS in iminent danger.

I carry everywhere it's legal.

wankerjake
January 20, 2009, 10:38 PM
You left out 1-25%, which is where I fall. I can't carry at work or school, but I do carry on days off.

Eightball
January 20, 2009, 10:52 PM
I carry as often as I can, betwee school or my work (both of which are "no carry").

It's literally an "If I CAN legally carry, I AM legally carrying," but the % of the time that it's legal is the only real obstacle. If you wear clothes, you can CCW.

Duke of Doubt
January 20, 2009, 11:04 PM
I think I'd disregard any employer except government telling me I can't carry, assuming it isn't a criminal offense (such as at posted taverns). I'd prepare myself for the possibility of being summarily canned, which can happen at any time at any job and has happened to me before. And if and when denounced to the Big Boss Man, I'd tell them to shove it and put in for unemployment. Let the DOL figure out whether a weapon policy violation constitutes "for cause" dismissal. I'm guessing not.

Blowby
January 20, 2009, 11:19 PM
Still waiting for final CCW permit (57 days and counting) but I carry in my vehicle, home and work (private property I own). So I must leave my firearm in the vehicle at all other locations but will carry as a responsible US Law abiding citizen "at all times" in 33 more days.

Loyalist Dave
January 20, 2009, 11:27 PM
I carry virtually all day. I go to school at 9 in the morning, gun goes with me. I get home from work at about 1 in the morning, guns still on my hip. Only time I don't carry is when I go to church.

I do too, but I carry in church as well. His Grace the Archbishop will have to re-consecrate the church if a murder is comitted or if a murderer is stopped. I prefer the latter.

LD

Treo
January 21, 2009, 12:07 AM
Wether or not you carry at work is your choice ( you alone bear the consequenses if you get caught so you alone make the call). And there are several concealment products out there that will pretty much allow you to conceal in a thong if you choose, so I'm not going there. I'm going to stress two points for if you DO decide to carry at work.

1. No matter what, under no circumstance and at no time do you EVER let any, ANY, ANY of your co-workers know that you carry, ever. The first one you tell will tell the whole plant in less than a week ( trust me on this I know)

If you choose off body carry do not ever let the concealment device out of your direct personal control unless you can lock it up someplace that only you have acess to ( I.E a toolbox if you're on the production floor) & even then only if you have no choice.

Depending on your style of dress concealmeant shouldn't be that hard. I conceal a full size auto loader under a sweater at work and none of my co-workers has a clue (see rule one)

KC0QGL
January 21, 2009, 12:44 AM
100% of the time. Two guns on me and one in the center consol of my BroncoII.

Jorg Nysgerrig
January 21, 2009, 12:48 AM
You left out 1-25%, which is where I fall. I can't carry at work or school, but I do carry on days off.
I added an option for seldom. I hope that works, I haven't edited a poll before. :)

jackdanson
January 21, 2009, 12:49 AM
I have to go thru a metal detector at work soooo.... I usually just car-carry. Most of the places I go aren't "allowed". Bars, church, casinos, sports games... can't carry at any in my state.

ants
January 21, 2009, 01:46 AM
Those of you who can carry 90 to 100 percent of the time surely lead blessed lives, and we salute you.
Those of us who work in schools, airports, courthouses, and other prohibited places are doing the best we can.

PAPACHUCK
January 21, 2009, 06:31 AM
[Quote] If You Can Carry Legally, Do You?



Yes.

darkmark
January 21, 2009, 06:44 AM
Those of you who can carry 90 to 100 percent of the time surely lead blessed lives, and we salute you.
Those of us who work in schools, airports, courthouses, and other prohibited places are doing the best we can.

I live in IL and I have a ccw from Utah, when i go out of state I carry.
But it's IL, so it is almost barely legal to carry in your own home :)
Let alone defend yourself.

Clermont
January 21, 2009, 06:48 AM
I fall into the 1-25 percent catagory. I was wondering if retired police officers, like myself, tend to carry less now than they did when they were off duty prior to retiring. Before I retired, I carried, off duty, at least 90 percent of the time.

misANTHrope
January 21, 2009, 07:18 AM
Those of you who can carry 90 to 100 percent of the time surely lead blessed lives, and we salute you.
Those of us who work in schools, airports, courthouses, and other prohibited places are doing the best we can.

I assumed, based on the title of the thread, that the poll was referring to the percentage of the time one could legally carry, rather than the percentage of total time.

Though in my case, the two numbers are about the same... I always carry when legally able, and being self-employed, I have no silly work restrictions to worry about. That may change in the near future, though... I'm hoping to get offered a job at a university soon, which will force me to change my habits dramatically.

moooose102
January 21, 2009, 07:20 AM
I'm on the XXL side, 50 inch waist, and I wear suspenders. Any recommendations there? My current gun is probably too clunky to carry on a regular basis, a Ruger P89.

i am a little smaller than you right now, but with the right holster and clothes, it really is not a problem to conceal a full size 1911. so your ruger really would not be much different. i have carried a taurus 24/7 45 acp double stack in everything but the hottest of months (when it is 90, and you are in cut offs and a t shirt, it is pretty tough to hide a full size pistol). iwb in the5 o clock or 7 o clock (in the back side of your hip) position is a really good place. it is comfortable to stand, walk, sit ,or drive in that position, at least for me.

Slade797
January 21, 2009, 07:21 AM
I recommend that you have more than one weapon for concealed carry. I usually carry a Springfield Armory XD9 Sub-Compact, and I have a Taurus Ultralite .38 and a couple others. This allows me to carry appropriately, as it were.

#shooter
January 21, 2009, 08:52 AM
I can't carry all the time. I can not bring it to work nor store it in my car. The police on campus offer to store it while on campus but I am skeptical of this arraingement. Perhaps I can buy a cheap pistol (nagant) and see if the police can manage not to lose it or hold it forever.

expvideo
January 21, 2009, 08:56 AM
Always.

Cannonball888
January 21, 2009, 09:21 AM
24/7.Sleep with my G36 2 or 3 nights a week.
A faithful companion who never complains.

I don't sleep with a gun under my pillow.
I sleep with a pillow under my gun.

CoRoMo
January 21, 2009, 09:25 AM
I carry everyday/everywhere, and that includes church every Sunday.
Once I really got into the habit, it became second nature, and I feel uncomfortable if I'm not carrying.

expvideo
January 21, 2009, 09:33 AM
I carry everyday/everywhere, and that includes church every Sunday.
Once I really got into the habit, it became second nature, and I feel uncomfortable if I'm not carrying.
Me too. It's not even a paranoia thing for me. It's the same kind of feeling I get when I forget my cell phone or my watch. I just feel naked without it. Not carrying a gun would feel weird, like not wearing a belt.

Of course in the back of my mind there is also a subtle fear of being unarmed, since I'm used to being able to defend myself with a firearm. But I would say that the main discomfort in not carrying is the lack of having that thing that I always have, which feels much like forgetting your belt/phone/watch/keys.

divemedic
January 21, 2009, 09:36 AM
I carry everywhere I legally can except for work, when I am swimming, or when I am drinking. The reasons I do not carry at work:

1 My work takes me into off limits places like police stations, airports, bars, and courthouses, as well as into places where carry is not wise, such as burning buildings.

2 That would mean leaving my weapon in an unlocked, unattended vehicle. This would also mean that my employer would find out I am carrying. Since we have a policy of no weapons, this would result in my termination. (I leave my weapon in my car in the parking lot- Florida has a law prohibiting my employer from disciplining me for that)

3 Due to my job and the fact that I have a radio, I have better and faster access to LEO backup than I do when off work.

Mello
January 21, 2009, 09:43 AM
Even though I've always had a concealed weapons permit for the last 30 years, recently I have gotten lazy about carrying. However, since my sons are fast approaching the age of 21 and expressed a desire for me to train them in handgun defense, I've started carrying almost all the time again.

I have taught them Jeff Cooper's combat mindset and color code or situational awareness. I always use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper_(colonel)

mallc
January 21, 2009, 09:49 AM
I'm wondering how the poll would differ with age and profession.

I have a non-professional permit to carry in Iowa. The only time I carry is when I buy arms from less savory types. I don't sell to this kind of person so that eliminates half the exposure. I practice personal defense 3 to 5 times per month.

Scott

Kind of Blued
January 21, 2009, 01:06 PM
To the OP:

The Kel-Tec in a pocket holster will conceal as well as anything. You could get away with a Kel-Tec at the beach in trunks...

Start looking at holsters for the P89, and start off by carrying concealed just around your house to get comfortable. Eventually venture out to Wal-Mart (it's mandatory) and continue to develop your comfort level.

If you want a holster that you can tuck a shirt into, I'd recommend looking at the Comp-Tac M-Tac. You can also just tuck an under shirt in, over the gun, and let your outer-shirt hang over it. This keeps the gun from being exposed if the wind blows your shirt up, and also keeps both shirts from getting hung up on the butt of the gun.

It's a progression. Eventually you will realize that nobody realizes you're carrying and you can "move up" to something that you could shoot more effectively. I started with a S&W 642, and can easily conceal that, a Kahr, and a 1911 nowdays, all at the same time if I want to.

Vern Humphrey
January 21, 2009, 01:15 PM
Every morning when I get up, I look in my crystal ball to see if I'm going to have a flat that day. If I'm not, I leave my spare at home.

I check to see if I'm going to be in an automobile crash. If I'm not, I don't bother to buckle my seat belt.

I check to see if I'm going to be mugged or carjacked. If I'm not, I don't bother to carry my gun.:neener:

etex
January 21, 2009, 02:38 PM
90-100% of the time, but not at work. I have one in my truck though.

Funderb
January 21, 2009, 02:41 PM
can't, maybe someday soon.

Jenrick
January 21, 2009, 02:52 PM
90-100%. I'm an LEO and per department policy am on duty 24/7/365. Due to that line in policy I am allowed to carry basically anywhere that I'm not disarmed by another department or agencies regulations (which in Texas means inside the secured perimeter of a Military Base or Federal Court House). I do so, I make a particular point to be extra vigilant when in an area a non-LEO can't carry for someone up to something as I'm going to be likely the only person there able to act.

-Jenrick

Davionmaximus
January 21, 2009, 02:59 PM
I am average sized and carry almost always (church being the exception....).
I have "cobbled together a carry system that really works well. I have 52" shoulders, 36" around the belly and 33" around the waist. Most belt holsters tend to pull my pants down and make it difficult to be seated w/ a full sized automatic.
I have found IWB carry to be a bit invasive feeling.
My rig consists of a band (purchaced from Collectors Firearms of Houston) that has FBI canted holsters on both sides. This gives me the flexibility to carry either strong or cross draw, whatever my needs are for the day. I tighten the band just enough to make the gun move w/ me...but not sung enough to cause me any discomfort. Also by not being too tight it breathes in the Houston summers.
I support this rig w/ a pair of soft suspenders made for ski/' snowboarding pants. The suspenders have fast adjustment clips so I can adjust the height even through my shirt.
I wear this rig low. The muzzle of the gun hangs just even to the middle of my belt. Drawing the weapon is almost the same as a medium rise holster. It gives me the freedom to bend in almost any direction and no have the gun patterned against my shirt. I wear the gun for almost any activity I do including working in the yard. Because the rig is independent of my pants it makes using a public restroom much easier as I don't need to worry about concealment while seated. The cant of the holster works well even with my 5.5" tall Ruger P345. Works best w/ my Glock19 or XD 45 Compact.
I have worn this under tank tops in the summer. (once a week I wash the holster in the sink...lol)
Hope this helps someone
D

Dr. Fresh
January 21, 2009, 07:04 PM
I answered "most of the time." I carry everywhere normally, but I go to college and I haven't wanted to risk expulsion, so when in class I don't carry.

Hashshashin
January 22, 2009, 01:31 AM
I would carry more often but I go to college ("gun-free zone") & work in an elementary school ("gun-free zone") so for 13-14 hrs of the day I'm not legal to carry even with my CCP

Hashshashin
January 22, 2009, 01:33 AM
I'm an LEO and per department policy am on duty 24/7/365. Due to that line in policy I am allowed to carry basically anywhere that I'm not disarmed by another department or agencies regulations
Really the only reason I would care to be an LEO, the rest of it I could do without.

MartinFA
January 22, 2009, 01:35 AM
When I lived in the city I carried all the time. Now that I am retired and live way out in the country I seldom carry but have one handy.

Valkman
January 22, 2009, 01:41 AM
Almost all the time, and when I don't I have a gun in the truck.

mljdeckard
January 22, 2009, 01:59 AM
For me it's almost always, except that I spend a lot of time on military posts, that's the only time I don't. Ironic, I know.

Zach S
January 22, 2009, 09:06 AM
Most of the time. I cant carry at work, and normally don't when I'm working on a car.

I dont wear anything that might get caught on something if I need to get out from underneath the car in a hurry. On that note, keep a fire extinguisher handy if your welding (yes, I set the on fire), and if you use jackstands on gravel put the otherwise useless space-saver spare under whatever wheel is up (the same car fell on me a while later).

Back on topic, if its legal, I'm normally armed.

BBQLS1
January 22, 2009, 09:30 AM
I may have answered the poll incorrectly. I cannot carry at work, but if I'm legally able to carry, I generally do all the time.

CoRoMo
January 22, 2009, 09:38 AM
I carry everywhere... except... when I am swimming...

That struck me as sort of funny, but I never actually thought about that particular situation; the need to carry while swimming.

However, there oughta be a solution to that impediment.
I've seen Glocks held underwater and fired. Maybe it isn't entirely impossible.

misANTHrope
January 22, 2009, 12:38 PM
That struck me as sort of funny, but I never actually thought about that particular situation; the need to carry while swimming.

However, there oughta be a solution to that impediment.
I've seen Glocks held underwater and fired. Maybe it isn't entirely impossible.

Yeah, but where are you gonna conceal it?

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/uhoh.gif

divemedic
January 22, 2009, 01:20 PM
Yeah, but where are you gonna conceal it?

Don't make me post pictures.


but I never actually thought about that particular situation; the need to carry while swimming.

As a diver and a Florida resident, I can tell you that the subject comes up more than you think. Beaches, dive boats, public parks with natural springs, etc.

afti123
January 22, 2009, 01:35 PM
I carry legaly now, if it ever becomes "illegal" I will still carry. Give me Liberty or give me death. And I will defend my liberty against all those who would abridge my Birth right with deadly force. No Man or Government will overthrow my birth right and live.

barnetmill
January 22, 2009, 02:06 PM
I can not carry legally at work and in many governmental bldg. I carry when ever I can, which is less than half of the time that I am away from home. Always carry about the house.
From Florida.

eye5600
January 22, 2009, 03:47 PM
For me it's almost always, except that I spend a lot of time on military posts, that's the only time I don't. Ironic, I know.

I thought about that at the time of the Fort Dix terrorist business. I spent about 6 months at Dix once upon a time, and I would say that, excluding the ranges, the percentage of personnel with gun and ammo was probably less than your average suburban shopping mall. Military folks being pretty law-abiding, there really aren't many MPs, except at the gates. It was a pretty big deal when we found a .50 cal cartridge in a heating duct while cleaning a barracks.

gmalfavon1
January 22, 2009, 04:07 PM
will start to carry my Ruger P345 in a few months once im 18 no permit/licence needed for open carry:D in AZ

grnzbra
January 22, 2009, 08:08 PM
My decision to carry or refrain from carrying is determined by the question, "Is there a reason not to carry it?".

laguna0seca
January 22, 2009, 08:53 PM
Everywhere but church, when I am in a state that i can. CA is less than accommodating to my 2A rights. But when i drive home, i pull out my G19 the instant I cross into NV.

Erik
January 23, 2009, 01:43 PM
Nearly all the time, practically everywhere.

WarHall
January 23, 2009, 02:15 PM
No big surprise, this isn't a sewing circle forum. I wish I could carry all the time, but my work (construction) makes it not feasible with all the bending and stooping and such. I feel, as was already posted, 'naked' without it (S&W M&P .40), like I forgot my phone or wallet. And I do like the idea of that belly band holster, though. I've had to drop trou AND my rig which is a problem. As far as swimming with one, maybe someone will come up with a 'prosthetic device' you can use (water wings, anyone?)

GrendelPrime
January 23, 2009, 02:31 PM
I carry where I am not legally prohibited.
I avoid businesses with a 'disarmed customers' sign more out of principal than desire to follow their rules.

jjohnson
January 23, 2009, 02:31 PM
Who started this thread and said: I work for an employer (IBM) who makes it a condition of employment that I NOT bring a gun to work. They also post a sign on the doors, but it does not conform to Texas state law. (Wonder how they missed that.) Despite the non-conforming sign, if I were found to be carrying at work I'd be fired. (I can keep a gun in my car while at work, since its in the parking lot.)

Yep, same here, even same :fire:employer. :scrutiny: And I'm not gonna state what you might find in MY truck!:evil:

I voted with "carry, but seldom" for that reason. I live in a fairly "safe" area, and what might be in my theoretical truck is with me any time I go someplace that's not posted. The sad thing is that in the leftist land of Minnesoviet, there are a LOT of places posted.:cuss:

The Bushmaster
January 23, 2009, 02:38 PM
I carry only when my eyes are open. When they are closed my carry handgun is at hands reach...

Nikdfish
January 23, 2009, 05:33 PM
the only places I choose not to carry (vs. am barred from carrying) are Dr/hospital/PT trips where I'm probably going to 'drop trou' or get weighed (it gets secured in a tethered lock box in the car) ...

Nick

Ala Dan
January 23, 2009, 06:33 PM
on most occassions where not prohibited~! ;)

codybrown
January 23, 2009, 10:09 PM
I carry everywhere I go, with the only exception being the places I'm excluded from. Since I was just laid off a week and a half ago, now it's on me 24/7. My previous employer didn't allow "dangerous weapons" of any type, so it was left in my truck while working.

Monkybrainz
January 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
i'll carrie anytime with or without..( i go with)
the 2nd amnd is my permit

Hanzerik
January 24, 2009, 01:16 AM
When I'm not in uniform or on Base, then I'm carrying.

Armed N. Free
January 24, 2009, 09:03 AM
First Off let me say my heart goes out to our brothers & sisters in Jones, Co. Texas! God Bless ya'll & we hope the fires have ended! I hope you have much love & support through the clean-up / rebuilding process. I totally empathize being a native of **********stan.

Next up....CCW while swimming? Well...my friends say my aim is like I'm shooting out of my butt sooo.....I carry lots of mags so I might hit something:evil:

Uh...what is the Castle Doctrine and does it apply in PA? The reason I ask is - the paper my Sheriff's office enclosed with my permit says "Do not leave your firearm unattended in a motor vehilce. You must carry the firearm CONCEALED on your person." I asked for clarification and they advised "the firearm must be very concealed - totally invisible." I wonder what happened to our open carry law?:scrutiny:

I agree with the belly band carry technique - although the IDPA doesn't shoot that way, I still like it best (especially in reference to the bahroom issue and during warm weather). I'm kinda skinny so 5 or 6 o'clock doesn't work well because I look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame when I bend forward:eek:

Back to the poll.....Yes 100 % when legal and.....gulp....sometimes when not if I feel the sitch' warrants it (sorry - watched too much Miami Vice growing up). I too have federal law signs prohibiting me from carrying while in the office or out delivering the mail (I deliver in several projects and shots fired near me about 3 times a week.....by the grace of God, I've never been hit, sometimes by inches. Hey - they don't want to hurt me. I bring the checks!)

Beretta PX4, 40S&W 14+1 and an extended 17 in an Uncle Mikes Sidekick OWB during winter or under up high during summer and a North American Arms .380 10+1 in an Uncle Mikes wallet holster in my strongside front pocket AT ALL TIMES (except at work:banghead:) and my CX4 40 S&W carbine or or Mossberg 500 Rolling Thunder 12GA in the "truck" (unloaded in PA - of course) for back-up.

Oh yeah...if I'm on the road for any distance I like to have my Ruger 10/22 Charger with a BSA red dot / laser and a TacticalInc 25 round mag on front seat next to me;)

Just livin' the dream

spartywrx
January 24, 2009, 03:03 PM
I carry as much as I can, but unfortunately I spend a lot of time on college campuses in Michigan, some of which are able to ban legal CCW.

Shytheed Dumas
January 24, 2009, 09:41 PM
The only 3 places I don't carry:

1. My son's school
2. Government buildings
3. Work

The only one that isn't a legal issue is work, but it isn't a fight that I'm willing to sacrifice my family's well being for, since they will fire anybody with a knife blade over 3" no matter how stupid the policy. That said, I have gun double locked inside my car in the parking lot every day, and in the few cases it has come into discussion, I have had no fear of saying it's there. Kentucky law makes it clear that my locked vehicle is my property no matter where it is parked, and they have no basis for telling me it can't be there.

polekitty
January 24, 2009, 09:53 PM
Like the credit card people say, "I never leave home without it!" The only time it is not on my belt is when I'm in bed or in the post office.

moooose102
January 24, 2009, 09:56 PM
every minute of every day where it is legal. except when i am in the shower, then it is right outside the tub.

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