January 25, 2009, 12:14 AM
well, this is my first post, and id like to ask:
what makeshift weapons can you throw together in under 4minutes?
or what makeshift weapons do you keep ready around your house?
i for one keep a chain lock on me at all times, and i can put together a makeshift hammer together using half of a pool cue and an old, short, round and thick bedpost.
EDIT:make that a dresser post.
January 25, 2009, 02:19 AM
Living in a really gun friendly state, I keep a loaded 45 by my bed. My wife keeps a loaded 45 by her side. By the door I keep (well hidden) a 454 Super Redhawk. Of course if you don't live on the coast of the Bering Sea you don't need the big bear gun by the door.
I have a Paul Chen Katana displayed in my front room, a walking stick in the corner by the front door, my Cold Steel City Stick walking stick, and a 3 pound sledge hammer all really close at hand in my house.
Of course I'd say one of the most effective weapons I keep in my house are my German Shepherds.
January 25, 2009, 04:11 AM
When I'm on my ship I keep a 4'x1/2" Steel pipe handy, as well as 2-3' of chain. In under 4 minutes I could turn this into a very nasty flail or mace..
Potato guns are always fun, and can be quite deadly.
Aerosol Hairspray + Bic Lighter = Flamethrower
I'm sure I could think up a bunch more, but what exactly are you trying to do with these weapons? Home Defense? Vehicle defense? Something to carry with you everywhere?
January 25, 2009, 06:32 AM
Why bother throwing a weapon together when there are so many tools that make such exellent weapons?
Living in a VERY unfriendly firearms state, The Peoples Republik Of Maryland, and traveling at least twice a week in /washington D.C., I'm used to not having a gun when I'm out and about, but I refuse to go naked into the hostile world.
Simple hand tools make some of the best non gun weapons. A small to medium ball peen hammer makes an exellent tomahawk. A simple monkey wrench makes a great mace. A rustic walking stick with a copper or iron ferrel on the bottom makes a decent pike. And then we have the kitchen.:D
The knife block right on the counter has a nice big chef's knife in it. Can anyone say Holloween and Michael Myers?:eek: And that nice big cast iron fry pan kept on top of the stove is either an awesome weapon in it's own right, or a pretty decent shield against another edged weapon if you're lucky enough that the intruder is armed with a knife. Think Sparticus.
The averidge home is an arsenal if you look around.
January 25, 2009, 07:47 AM
I've got extra pipe sections for steel storage racks in a couple of closets.
A couple of stout yardsticks I can tape knives to.
A gallon of bleach and a spray bottle.
January 25, 2009, 11:37 AM
Well lets see, there are three ways to cause trauma to the human body, burning, cutting, and crushing.
Burning is self explanatory. If you can hit somebody with it and it and it cuts/punctures their skin it is an edged weapon. Everything else including the ground and walls are impact weapons.
January 25, 2009, 01:53 PM
I am the weapon; the world is my toolbox.
January 25, 2009, 04:58 PM
I am the weapon; the world is my toolbox.
Well said, Sensei.
January 25, 2009, 06:24 PM
Beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing in another way that I've heard before...."Best weapon is the human brain." Same ideal. That said, the .38 revolver in my pocket right now is a better weapon than MY feeble brain. LOL!
January 25, 2009, 06:47 PM
I will probably never make one of these again, but I did once for fun... apx 3 feet of closet pole made of fir, 1 roll of TP wrapped in duct tape, and the whole roll of TP soaked in a bucket of water. A device like this will simply splatter most any opponent, and dammned hard. What it represents is a war hammer. At the time I was involved with some marshal arts guys, and they had a really big problem with me and my guns for some reason :rolleyes:
I hit one guy in armor and he was crushed to the ground, much to his surprise.
January 25, 2009, 07:24 PM
I would consider my display katana a makeshift weapon. The blade is razor sharp, but the handle construction is not the best. It'd last long enough to inflict major damage, though.
January 25, 2009, 08:19 PM
I appreciate the kind words.
Keep in mind, my mentors include some interesting persons.
Persons that spent time in other countries, during difficult times, where citizens were restricted.
In the work my mentors did, getting caught would often mean a more severe, harsh punishment than that of citizens.
If the checkpoint guard did not like you, you might just get shot. If the female caught their attention, well, with the male out of the way, the female was fair game.
This might explain where I am coming from in regard to not depending on "gun" or "knife" , or anything else one "buys" to keep them safe.
This might explain why Mentors spent a lot of time sharing lessons of small pen knives, less than 3" closed length, and small caliber, small semi automatic handguns, such as Beretta tip up guns.
My lessons included offensive lessons. We did not have PC back in the day , thank goodness, still from the time I was wittle, the lessons included how to target a mark, and take them down, via whatever means.
Simple, for if you know the offensive, you can better defend against it.
I fear the person that is blending in, giving perceptions of not being anything else, but what they want me to perceive them to be.
That old man with a magazine can kill me faster than the young fella with a tactical knife and gun.
The gal with an umbrella, will kill me faster the lady with a Glock 26 carried at appendix location.
The person with a old rusty screwdriver will be on you and off you before you ever knew they were around, much less took you down.
My lessons ( you folks call this training) is very similar to what NTI and that bunch does.
Hence the reason I suggest the www.teddytactical.com site so much, especially to ladies.
Guns are easy, you want to know what gun for a wife, girlfriend, or mom?
I can tell you.
Give me 30 min on range, with live fire, and I will prove it.
This Hardware part, which should only be 10% of the tool kit, is easy.
Software portion , is 90% of the toolbox.
BullFrogKen and I were visiting about NTI, and his club.
Ask him if I did not say, I would really like to participate on some "set ups" ( you folks call these stages) where I do not enter with a gun, or even a knife.
There is a difference in Improvised and Expedient weapons.
Reading The Room is the term I was brought up with, this applies to people, places and things.
I am no big deal, never wanted to be anybody and still do not aspire to be somebody.
Just my life started from the get-go, being in a high risk life style.
Learn fast , or die young.
You see why I don't appreciate government meddlin'?
How about why I don't understand folks sharing they are in a NPE ( non permissive environment)and "somebody has to do something about it"?
"Oh me oh my, I am unarmed whatever will I do?".
Hey, this stuff applies to kids, that are not allowed to carry knives to school unlike I was able to.
Even back in my day, a boy or girl was parented and taught, they were not dressed without a pocket knife, just like adults.
Just a simple pen knife, not a "pig sticker" or "bowie" much less the offerings of today.
One of the first tactical knives, and I am using the word "tactical" in the correct context, was the Douk-Douk.
Look it up, it was even banned way back when in some countries.
It was not the knife, instead the INTENT of the users of these knives.
In the USA, it was the Buck 110, that many name as the first "tactical knife".
I forget the tribe, and it was in National Geographic in the year 1973 best recall, that shared about "sticks".
JShirley or hso, can bail me out on this, I am sure they recall the article of which I speak.
I grew up with "run what ya brung".
Meaning reading the room and doing , using what one had to do.
Don't go where trouble is, leave if trouble shows up, and deal with it if no other choice.
Forget teh Intraw3bz for some things, instead learn from history , and real deal folks, and these include Correction Officers, Ex cons, and street folks ( homeless, hobos, and vagrants).
Street Smarts will keep you alive, being a programmed person , may contribute to being targeted, being a mark and taken down.
SouthNarc shares, it finally dawned on him, after waking up from having his butt kicked, there were some things that always seemed to occur when he got his butt kicked.
He refers to these as "3+1".
Look it up.
I have too much respect for SouthNarc to share what is his. Besides, things stick if folks really want "it" and are "willing" to get "it".
If you want "it" , look it up.
You will not be able to see it, and between micro/ plastic surgery and time having passed, my forehead was cut.
By a small 10" portable black and white TV.
Just my luck , years later I again would have another micro/ plastic surgery, due to a 13" Sony TV.
Yes I know, how can one not see evil coming at them with a TV.
Anyone here a bouncer, how about someone that works in Casino's or Horse Racing Tracks?
Tell these folks about Ladies, when they fight.
Ladies, forget a lot of what you read and are told you "have" to do.
You have in your genes, instinct , talents and gifts.
One thing you are lucky to have, from just being made up as you are, is less testosterone.
Heck, what someone needs to do , and they could get rich doing this, is offer a Catfight Training.
Give me a gal with no weapons, in catfight mode, to watch my six.
Especially if the gal is in "upset about cheating boyfriend, husband" mode, or some gal looks better in the same outfit she has.
I am being serious.
This before you add some Tequila, or Wild Turkey straight up.
10": My lady partner was being followed by Professional Thugs ( a mode of criminal I , she, my kind have concerns with).
I get a call and head over to a two bit dive , where she and a lady bodyguard chose to seek safety and all hell broke out, with some other gals, and it...hard to explain, still there were two serious situations going on, that appeared similar.
My gals were trying to evade the Professional Thugs.
Lady BodyGuard was "into" full tilt boogie survival mode and did not recognize me and put me down with the TV.
I regret I had only one forehead, and however much blood I lost to give for my gals...
Err...my getting nailed, stopped all the fighting and Professional Thugs took off when the cops showed and EMTs.
13" TV involves me working late, with sophisticated alarm systems and all in place.
Professional Thugs bypassed alarms, accessed the structure via roof, and timed it perfect, as I had stopped to take a shower, change clothes.
I had one leg in jeans, no shoes, no shirt when trouble showed.
I nailed one with a coffee pot, then I was hit by the TV. I am a guy, so I reached up and grabbed his gonads , and I have a good grip ( better back then , than now, still) I got his attention and with blood in eyes, I still knew sorta where I was and put him into paned, glass door. I mean I put him through it.
Being outnumbered and being allergic to bullets, ran for the special walk in vault and shut myself in.
I hit the special system which locked down with steel doors and gates and waited for help.
They came for me, to open that vault.
I survived by evading, and locking myself into the vault.
I had guns, alarms, and all sorts of neat physical stuff....
Street Smarts and thinking on my feet is what worked for me.
My lady partner once used her bra, at a hotel.
Room Service was not room service and she just grabbed a bra from where she was unpacking and took away the fake room service ladies gun, and then used that gun to hold the fake room service lady at bay.
Think out of the box...
Don't look like prey, think like a criminal.
Duke of Doubt
January 25, 2009, 09:00 PM
One of my friends sometimes gets called "Salt and Pepper." It isn't because of the coloration of his hair. It's because one night when he was attacked at a tavern, he grabbed up his salt shaker in one hand, his pepper shaker in the other, and proceded to drum the sharpish glass edges of them repeatedly into the skull of his assailant.
January 25, 2009, 09:51 PM
sm; thanks for sharing that :)
i appreciate your wisdom
January 25, 2009, 10:06 PM
Great read sm. Lots of questions, but all personal in nature. Wonder if you knew Cooper, and or others like him ever.. The way you write says you did to me.
January 25, 2009, 10:07 PM
It is I that thanks you folks.
Just a Mom&Pop fish market and there was no trouble in this small town, except for things like the diner selling out of chocolate or lemon meringue pie...
One day some kids from a bigger city figured small town folks would be easy targets, and they chose a Friday, as Friday was payday.
Now the locals would catch a mess of fish, and this Mom & Pop Fish Market would fix it up, and donate to the local nursing home, and some other elderly folks in town.
The diner often times cooked it up...
These two city slicker punk entered all cocky and stated intent- armed robbery.
Mom never stopped what she was doing, and that was messing with the fish needing to be displayed on ice.
They announced again, and the next thing one knew, he was down on the floor.
Pop had walked in with a 14 pound catfish some fella had caught and was donating.
He just had that cord tied tight and just swung it, hard.
The second one started to make his move and that is when he noticed Mom with one of her knives she used to dress out fish.
Deputy finished his pie, and coffee at the diner, as the boys were not going anywhere, not with Mom & Pop , and other folks gathered at the Market.
Deputy was known for "bad" jokes and puns.
Deputy: Whuts wrong with chew boys, Cat got your tongue?
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