[351 WINCHESTER]

I want to make some brass for a .351 winchester out of .357 mag. brass. I need to turn down the rim some and cut an extractor grove too. I do not have a lathe.

Any sugguestions would be much appreciated.

[woodsoup]

Drill press and a file. Just need to figure out how to hold the case.

Might be able to find a dremel expanding arbor, for the sanding drums, that will work.

[R.W.Dale]

I do not have a lathe.


that pretty much means you must buy ready made brass

[rcmodel]

Or make friends with someone who does!

rc

[Black Dime]

351,
I looked around some and found that of all the articles I read, they all used 357 Maximum brass.

[woad_yurt]

Look at these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-PC-EXPANDING-ARBORS-SET_W0QQitemZ350117631993QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Tool_Work_Holding?hash=item350117631993&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Spin 'em in your drill and use a file or, better yet, a belt sander, to shave the rim to size.

[351 WINCHESTER]

Black Dime, Yes I know most folks use 357 max brass, but the 357 mag. will work and in a pinch one can use .38 special too. I'm just trying to make some plinking ammo and magnum brass fits my budget better than the max. The oal is not that big of a deal for these rifles as the ctg. headspaces on the rim.

[ar10]

This might work if you have a drill press.
Buy a piece of round mild steel bar stock that has a larger diameter than the .357 case.
chuck it in your drill press and turn it on, run the slowest speed first then work up. Take a course mill bastard flat file with a handle on it and while holding it at a slight angle press it against the bar stock.
As the stock start to form a taper keep testing it with a .357 case until the case slide onto the bar stock. When I do mine I found that a longer taper works better than a short one, the case doesn't wobble with the longer taper.
The rest you'll have to figure out yourself, but I'm guessing you'll want to do the groove first then trim them to length.

[Runningman]

Why not just buy it. http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?tabid=19&categoryid=10256&categorystring=652***670***9013***

[ClayinAR]

$66 per box of 50? You can usually buy new boxes of cartridges at gunshows for that much or less.
That said, I have 8 boxes that I am saving. For what? For my heirs to give away I guess.

[ar10]

That's about .76 per round+ the 20.00 for hazmat and what ever the charge for shipping. Bottom line it sounds like a pretty expensive bullet.

[MMCSRET]

ar10: Hazmat?

[ar10]

If any explosive material, bullets, powder, primers, are shipped the buyer pays the hazmat fee. When I've ordered from Midway, Caballa's, Powder Valley, its 20.00 over and above the cost of the actual item and shipping. Unless you're ordering a large quantity it's just not worth it.

[Dean Williams]

There is no hazmat fee for ammunition, and certainly not for bullets.

[351 WINCHESTER]

FYI When Winchester stoped production of .351 ammo in the early 80's the list price was a tad over $40for a box of 50. The 07 Winchester was more expensive than their model 70 (pre 64). New brass is way overpriced as are bullets.

[Dean Williams]

351 Winchester, have you found a way to make your cases yet?

[ar10]

There is no hazmat fee for ammunition, and certainly not for bullets.

If you buy a box of live ammunition, primers, and/or powder and they are shipped to you there is a hazmat fee. Bullets and brass are not considered hazardous. Here's the link the UPS if you want to read up on it.
http://www.ups.com/using/services/accs/hazmat/hzm_home.html

[Dean Williams]

ar10;

Primed hulls, primed brass and ammo does not require a haz mat fee for ground shipping.

The above quote from Graf & Sons, a rather large ammunition and reloading retailer.

You may go read up on it if you like:
http://www.grafs.com/page/terms-full

[Black Dime]

Hazardous materials

[Borg]

Ammo is shipped ORMD,, no hazmat.
I ship ammo out everyonce in a while and have never paid any hazmat,, you do have to have the ORMD stickers on it tho.
Borg

[texasborn902]

to all,

before you go to a whole bunch of trouble "turning down rims" & messing about with "re-cutting extracter grooves", try loading a FEW .357 cases with powder, bullets & trying them in YOUR 1907 WSL carbine.

fyi, mine will shoot .357 cases just fine "as is", with just resizing, priming,charging with powder & seating the proper bullet out to the proper OAL.

sincerely, tex

[sniper1259]

351 WINCHESTER,
heads up on this one; it is always safer to use brass made for the gun, with that said ...,

a drill press with a 1/2 inch chuck will clamp strait onto the case a good flat file for the rim and a triangular for the extractor groove will work fine. i suggest a set of welders gloves to keep the files or the drill chuck from cutting into your hands

also lookup Taig Tools on the net. they have a really great MINIATURE lathe that wont break the wallet and works great too. besides having an actual lathe cutter on it it also helps making other tools for the press too

used mine to make a flaring tool for the neck of a .30-06 case for the .22 sabot i use in them. (i use the standard powder load for a 150g bullet using Win 748 for this setup, with the case flared just a touch, 47g of 748, the sabot weighs 4.5g and the Sierra 65g matchkings make for a total weught out the barrel of just less than 70g with a resultant 4900 fps plus!! and you dont even have to moly the nylon sabot or the barrel!!! make sure to taper crimp the flare back into the sabot till its nice and flat, they work great and silence the range from the first one fired!)

give the Taig Tools site a try. it has the features of very high accuracy and clean cutting along with safety. get goggles too

[45ACPUSER]

WOW AR10 where in the world did you dream up the idea there was HM charge for ammo?
You be flat our WRONG!

[Walkalong]

Yep, no Hazmat on loaded ammo or primed brass, just primers or powder.

[JDGray]

Why not just buy it.

Cuz it says "Out of stock, Back ordered":neener:

[Sport45]

Quote:
Why not just buy it.

Cuz it says "Out of stock, Back ordered"

It probably didn't say that when he made the suggestion back in January :)

[.45Guy]

.351, I have som .35WSL brass turned from .38 special if you're still in need.

[GP100man]

just seat a bullet then chuck it in the drill use a file when finished pull the bullet & start again.

[natman]

Try these:

http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,165.html

P.S. There is NO hazmat fee on loaded ammo. Just ORMD stickers.