Who here was an anti, or leaned against guns, at some point in their life?


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Matt G
September 29, 2003, 07:44 PM
Having recently mentioned that our number includes some who were formerly not pro-gun and receiving a rebuke of "Yeah, who?", I thought I'd just post a poll. I know of a couple of y'all who came here or to TFL with anti tendencies or leanings. Then there are y'all who came here (or to TFL) with uncertainty and open minds, but certainly no leaning, pro or con.


So who are you? If you don't care to admit that you were once anti but were, you can post to the poll anonomously. If, however, you'd like to share with the class your experiences, please explain here.

Thanks!

--Matt.

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Hkmp5sd
September 29, 2003, 07:50 PM
I was born pro-gun. My parents, grandparents and great grandparents were all pro-gun. I've inherited guns from each generation.

Quartus
September 29, 2003, 08:03 PM
I've never been anti-gun, but I did have to get rid of mine for a while. They became too much of my life - out of balance for sure. Now I don't have the money to rebuild my collection, so I have only a few - not even the bare necessities.

Stevie-Ray
September 29, 2003, 08:03 PM
Pro-gun since my monkey equipment when I was a kid. (Any old timers remember those?) Always had toy guns for cowboys and Indians, cops and robbers, etc. Even had a Tommy gun so I could be Sgt. Saunders.

aerod1
September 29, 2003, 08:12 PM
At one time, I thought you should have to need a gun, like in hunting or protection. NO MORE! I now have guns I WANT. I have very few guns because I need them. The majority of my guns now are "want guns". Guns are fun!
I have never been really anti gun.

Jim Hall

greyhound
September 29, 2003, 08:17 PM
Grew up in a non-gun owning, neutral family - they let me have BB guns etc, I never thought to ask for a .22. ( Strange looking back, we had a bunch o' hunters on our land I've been obsessed with military history since a young age!).

At one point I didn't think "civilians" needed to own assault rifles, but I used to be kinda neutral on CCW.

The GF of 3 years says she's always known I was a secret gun nut (didn't buy my first till 11/02 post sniper period). High point since my conversion was when her Pop in Alabama gave me a 870 Wingmaster 20 gauge!

Nothing so zealous as a convert (to anything)!:)

einnor1040
September 29, 2003, 08:30 PM
I was raised with guns. I don't remember not having one. I was hunting with my dad, with my own 22 rifle, as soon as I was big enough to walk and carry it. I still have that rifle and fortunately my dad too.

HogRider
September 29, 2003, 08:31 PM
Pro gun since birth. ( So I've been told). :p

4v50 Gary
September 29, 2003, 08:31 PM
Never had ammunition but the first gun I really got to know was the M-1 carbine.

Quartus
September 29, 2003, 08:48 PM
Even had a Tommy gun so I could be Sgt. Saunders.


:what: Ooooooohhh! Only the RICH kids had those! My best buddy (to this day!) had the Zero-M version - black camo and an infrared scope. Silencer, too, IIRC.

We played Army up through high school! :D

OF
September 29, 2003, 08:55 PM
I used to be an anti many many moons ago. But I didn't even know what that was then, I just new guns killed people and that was bad. So I was all for 'getting rid of guns'...not that I ever gave it any real thought.

- Gabe

MagKnightX
September 29, 2003, 09:07 PM
For about 10 years of my life, I had no opinion. Then for about half a year, I was anti. Then I was neutral for another year. Then I went shooting. I can't believe I really was ever anti, but I was.

Tamara
September 29, 2003, 10:25 PM
No guns in the house growing up, so I kinda over-reacted after I moved out. :D

Kaylee
September 29, 2003, 10:33 PM
definately leaned against them for civilian/non-LEO ownership growing up.. just like I believed the rest of the collectivist stuff I grew up with. (I still love you Daddy. :) )

Never politicked against 'em or anything, but had a definate distate. I still remember once as a teenager some relative showing us a new shotgun he had, and letting us try it out. I adamantly refused to even touch the thing.. guess I thought it had EvilCooties or something.

Who knew ten years later when Daddy said "well, I guess Some Guns are okay, but no one should have Assault Weapons" I'd be able to excuse myself for a sec, and return with an AR-15 and a smile... "you mean like this one?" :D

-K

CrudeGT
September 29, 2003, 10:45 PM
All through my teens I was never a fan of guns. I had a big knife collection though. I was more into sharp objects. I had a knife collection worth about $500 (recently stolen from me when someone broke into my apartment). but summer of '02 my brother took me out shooting with his guns, has a glock 40, a little 22cal, a tech 9, and a remmington 870. After that day I fell in love with guns, and a huge pro-gun activist within my group of friends. got my CCW on my 21st b-day and my first gun then too. Have since helped 2 of my freinds into gettin CCW's and am constatly trying to get more into it. I can't beleive why I was every against them.

MikeJ
September 29, 2003, 10:51 PM
My folks were pretty much anti-guns and I really didn't give much thought to them myself. I always thought that people who carried handguns were pretty weird and a little scary but accepted hunters as long as they ate what they killed. That all changed about 20 years ago when I reconnected with an old high school chum that took me target shooting and I've been hooked ever since. I also very strongly believe in the need to have a gun for protection. I actually shot for a number of years before I kept a handgun around for defensive purposes. Best to all, Mike

geekWithA.45
September 29, 2003, 10:57 PM
Though for a long time, I did not choose to excercise the right.

My Dad was the kind of guy who objected to the notion that "you need a gun to be a man", and did not choose to have any himself, but understood the deep necessity of RKBA, and supported those who chose to accept the responsibility. When I was 12 and started shooting with (not at) the Boy Scouts, he was 100% in favor.

P95Carry
September 29, 2003, 11:05 PM
PRO - from the get go ....... and proud of it!!

Kharn
September 29, 2003, 11:07 PM
Holy crap was I an anti when I was younger. We were forced to move from suburban Philly to the good ol' boy country of Maryland (an hour South of DC, tobacco country when I got there) when I was 14.
I claimed everyone in the area drove an old 1950s pickup truck with a double barreled shotgun in the rear window (in my mind, the locals were the cast of Deliverance) as my main reason for opposing the move.

The thing was, I wasnt a total anti. I wanted guns for myself, but didnt think the locals could be trusted with guns. Now that I'm 8 years older, I believe its wise to be wary around the locals when they have thier guns out after they've been tasting the product of their back-woods stills (I know one of the local deputies, he's got a few stories that are just shy of LawDog-level glory), but I believe its also their right to own those guns as long as they dont hurt anyone with them. My compromise is that I steer very, very clear of the areas that sound like dueling banjos on Friday and Saturday nights, and I no longer care what guns they own.

Kharn

Standing Wolf
September 29, 2003, 11:37 PM
I was quite the young leftist in college, but kept a .38 special under my desk.

Edward429451
September 30, 2003, 12:00 AM
I used to lean against guns when I was a kid, mostly when I was resting on long hikes.

I'm not sure but I think I might have been born with a gun in my hand.

Devonai
September 30, 2003, 12:31 AM
I had some liberal views which quickly evaporated upon arriving at college (liberal atmosphere + rebelliousness = conservatism), but I was always pro-self defense. When I turned 21 it seemed to be the most natural thing in the world to get a CCW.

Now smoking, there's something I did a 180 on. Now that I smoke a pipe and the occasional cigar, I am thoroughly embarrassed about the views I once held.

Zundfolge
September 30, 2003, 12:35 AM
I've always believed gun control was a stupid idea, but I used to assume it was inevitable.

Then one day I decided to fight it (before I owned any guns BTW) and it was then that I discovered that there are a TON of people who believe what I believe ... that the war was far from lost and that gun control can be defeated.

RocketMan
September 30, 2003, 12:51 AM
I used to lean against gun ownership for others when I was in my teens. For me and mine it was okay, however.

In truth I gave very little thought to the position, and had little knowledge of what it was really about. It was mostly a reflection of what was fashionable or in the news at the time.

Then I grew up.

Pinned&Recessed
September 30, 2003, 12:58 AM
There should be a fifth option:

Wanted as many as I could get, but didn't want anybody else to have them.

I used to feel this way. That I could be trusted, but F the great unwashed masses. The stereotypical liberal position, isn't it?

I'm ashamed to admit I was rather liberal earlier in my short life. I chalk it up to not knowing any better. Once I got out of the house and saw more of the world, I took the proverbial Red Pill and became very conservative.

It's like a previous poster said, I'm in college. University (liberal) environment+conservative (leemeelone) values= Hardcore Pro-Gun conservative.

Please forgive me for my earlier sins. I now carry the Pro-Gun (for everyone) banner proudly. No more elitist crap.

Lancel
September 30, 2003, 01:32 AM
As a kid, I didn't even know there was a concept of anti-gun.

That would have been like anti-hammer or anti-screwdriver. :confused:

All are tools. Everyone I knew thought the same. :)

Larry

chaim
September 30, 2003, 02:00 AM
I grew up in a strongly anti-gun family. My mom never really said much about it (though she didn't really want me to have toy guns, but she was the first to give in about that). My father is strongly anti. He grew up in a poor western PA farming family where hunting was a way of life. Somehow he ended up anti gun (and takes his former experience to claim expertise and so he knows guns are bad because "I've seen what they can do"). He hated the idea of my owning toy guns (had to give in, have you ever seen kids who aren't allowed toy guns- everything becomes a gun, for me it was my tennis racket and baseball bats usually). When I joined the Army and wanted a .22 to get some practice shooting before basic training and to keep in practice after, I was told that there was no way he would allow guns in his house. When I turned 21 I looked into becoming a cop, however I had to live at home at the time (after a few months of a police paycheck and I wouldn't have had to but I would have been there in the beginning) and my dad told me that even if I was a cop there would be no guns in the house (and I think the local police require that you are always armed when you are in the county and I know they bring home their duty gun)- so I never became a cop.

Anyway, with that kind of household some of that is bound to rub off. Sure, I was always fascinated by guns. I knew that I wanted to eventually get into at least some rifle target shooting and possibly some .22 pistol target shooting. However, I was what I'd describe as a "moderate anti". I thought that people who kept them for self defense were somehow ignorant (you know the idea that a gun in the home is "x times more likely to be used against a family member or against you or in an accident than to be used in self defense") and that the only safe way to store them was locked up with the ammo locked up separately. I thought that guns should be legal but possibly not some types (I'm not sure when I realized the "assult weapons ban" was idiotic, though it was before I owned guns). I've always thought handguns should remain legal. Even when I first got to TFL I thought that maybe some kind of registration or at least safety training and licensing to own guns was ok ("if we register cars and license drivers why not something made to kill..."). Certainly when I got to TFL I was against CCW laws. By the time I got to TFL I was already a gun owner of about half a dozen rifles and handguns.

A lot changed once I started owning guns and looking into gun control with a more educated mindset. Then TFL really started to change things. By the time TFL ended and I ended up here (along with most of TFL's active membership) the transformation was complete. Now most people I know (including a friend who is a self described "radical right winger") consider me an extremist on gun issues. I'll wear that label with pride. However, it is too bad that thinking guns are ok and wholly American, safe when handled correctly, and should be allowed with no (or, being more politically realistic, at least virtually no) restrictions, is considered extremist.

Majic
September 30, 2003, 02:10 AM
Even the toys I wanted were gun related.

sm
September 30, 2003, 02:10 AM
PRO since conception...I didn't ask for details.;)

Orthonym
September 30, 2003, 03:04 AM
Which is why I didn't vote. It's ah, rather complicated. As a somewhat normal male human, I got the usual charge from shooting cap guns and throwing rocks when I was a child. Well, later, (I'm ashamed to admit) I'm afraid I paid entirely too much attention to the doodahs who seemed to say, and believe, that just the close presence of a firearm would cause me to flip out and turn into a homicidal maniac.

Then I met a couple of interesting women. One, a very good-looking redhead from Mississippi, shot me in the head with reason and encouraged me to join the NRA.

The other woman had been the victim of a very nasty strong-arm robbery in a MARTA station in Atlanta. After being tossed down the stairs,which broke both of her arms right up near the shoulders, she was somewhat dependent on other people to help her. (She didn't like THAT one least little bit)

Well, I needed a place to stay, and she needed assistance, so a third person suggested that we get together. We did that for a bit, and then the lady in question started thinking about effective defence. She had me drive her out to the closest gun shop which gave good prices and bought herself a S&W Chief's Special. I'll never forget what she said when the clerk asked her what kind of ammo she wanted: She replied,

What kind makes the biggest holes? Snork! Talk about an intuitive understanding of wound ballistics!

Ok, so her arms hadn't healed up yet and she couldn't use 'em very well, so I was the designated shooter. A little bit later I caught myself saying, "Good God, woman, are you INVITING criminals to come in here by not locking doors and shutting windows?" Just having a firearm present made me very conscious of its, well, deadliness, causing me to pay attention to security so as NOT to have to shoot somebody. That's when I learned for sure that the Brady Bunch is full of dog poo.

So, that's how some girls taught this guy what firearms are for. Andrea Dworkin, you know where you can go.:neener:

semf
September 30, 2003, 03:44 AM
Also none of the above.

Always had hunting and plinking guns around, but a handgun designed to be carried inconspiculously for the sole purpose of defense (killing or maiming a human being) seemed like something a criminal or a paranoid person would need.

In other words I was, like too many other people today, I was a staunch supporter of 2A, Where it applied to me and what I deemed an appropriate type of gun.

Then CCW came to Fla. I studied on the subject, saw it's value, and joined the NRA. Now I support all owners even if I have no need or interest in their type of guns.

Zach S
September 30, 2003, 08:53 AM
From what I remember, I've never been anti. I wasnt always exaclty pro-gun either though.

Black Snowman
September 30, 2003, 09:11 AM
I was born in a family with guns and raised to treat them with respect. In High School I was just about brainwashed into being rabidly anti-gun UNTIL I started looking into the facts myself and found that things just didn't add up.


Looking at statistics, existing laws, and the results of similar laws passed in this and other countries I just couldn't see any tangible benefit from a whole slew of negatives. Every ban in the country has resulted in negative results. The most specacular of which being Prohibition only slightly ahead of "The War on Drugs".

What I find ironic is that many of the people I find to be anti-gun are for the legalization of many controlled substances and they use all the same arguments we do about personal responsability and abuse but choose not to see how it applies to both.

Even more often I find many anti-gunners completely ignorant of the current laws, processes, and restrictions already in effect on firearms. The only other endevour I know of as closely regulated is the casino industry. What are we up to? Over 43,000 gun laws or some such rediculous figure?

If all the money from the beuraucry of gun control was put into the hands of local law enforcement for training, personel and equipment how much more effective would that be at reducing ALL crime including crimes involving firearms? :banghead:

geegee
September 30, 2003, 09:17 AM
I grew up in the Northeast, and my parents were always anti's (and still are). My father and mother both survived WW II, my mother as a civilian working with the British Army in London and Germany, and my father survived as a prisoner in a Nazi slave labor camp (having been taken as a youth from Yugoslavia).

Anytime I expressed an interest in guns, my father's answer was always the same: "I've seen enough guns in my life." Of course at this point in my life, I think I'd be able to offer some fairly cogent reasons for people about to be enslaved, to own guns.

Later through college, I was surrounded by anti's who held sway with me. It wasn't until I moved to Texas and had an opportunity to buy a gun and practice with it, that I did a one-eighty. geegee

Mark Tyson
September 30, 2003, 10:02 AM
I've always been liberal-leaning. I used to be mildly against gun ownership. It just wasn't an issue that affected me very much. Now I understand that RKBA is a part of our heritage as a free people.

cool45auto
September 30, 2003, 10:36 AM
Always Pro Gun, guns are cool.:cool:

MyRoad
September 30, 2003, 12:29 PM
It wasn't an all or nothing proposition when I was growing up. For some reason, rifles were OK - they were tools. My dad had a Stevens .22 pump for taking care of rats in the chicken coop, and a shotgun for two legged invaders. But for some reason, handguns had a bad connotation - they were only for cops and criminals. I had a Crossman 760 BB rifle as a kid.

In my 20's, I didn't understand the need for "assualt weapons" by the general public, and bought into a bit of what the media threw at me - so by my current terms, I was part-anti. When I started to get interested in shooting again in the last few years, I was exposed to the political and constitutional aspects of gun ownership. Now I'm somewhere between "come and get them!" and "...from my cold dead fingers!". It's been a heck of a journey... but there's no going back now.

hops
September 30, 2003, 12:32 PM
Guess I've been pro-gun since at least the age of 5, when one day, I proudly proclaimed, "When I'm big I'm going to America to get a gun and shoot Russians." Living surrounded by the Berlin wall, watching American westerns and US military hardware on parade, at age 5 had a small influnce on my very pro-gun views. I was in America 4 years later - shooting my first rifle.

ps: Russians are ok. It's communists I was really after.

spacemanspiff
September 30, 2003, 12:54 PM
my first exposure to firearms was when i was about 12 iirc. i found my brothers jennings .22 pistol under his bed and looked at the schematic in the manual. i took it apart and inspected it, then put it back together.

after that i never gave guns much thought, other than they were dangerous and that if i ever fired one i'd probably be knocked on my rump like i saw happen on tv.

my first gun i bought cause it looked cool, AA Arms AP-9. its a POS really. even after shooting it i never saw myself owning other guns or being enthused about shooting. i found TFL in my search for replacement parts for my ap-9 and soon discovered i was misled by the media in regards to guns.
my turning point was when i discovered that the ratio of firearm-related deaths has not increased to match gun ownership over the last 30 years. in fact, firearm deaths really have decreased, they are NOT at all-time highs, it is NOT an epidemic, and merely having a gun around kids does not mean they are going to be massacred.

Mauserlady
September 30, 2003, 12:59 PM
Never had guns in the house growing up and they were never talked about good or bad, so I really never thoght about it... Ma married a guy that was a hunter when I was in Jr. High and to be honest, I don't know if he had any of his guns at the house. Probably not.

First real experience with them was a friend in Jr. High who's dad took us out and let us shoot a shotgun. After I picked my butt up outta the dirt I didn't care if I ever saw a gun again, and at the same time didn't care if others had them...

Next experience was approx. 6 years ago when I rented a room to a Parole Officer. Knew he had them and didn't really much care either. I also knew that he was locking them in a high cupboard in his room when not on his person so my (at the time) young daughters getting to them never even crossed my mind...

Next and latest experience was when I met David 3.5 years ago.. I've told that story enough and I'm sure y'all know where I now stand on the issue... :D

Not sure about my Dad (we've never talked about it) but I can say with all honesty that my Ma is an anti but I believe part of it is fear. She jumped back in shock when she saw my MKII laying on the work bench, even though it was disassembled for cleaning. My bad, I laughed... Sis I'm also not too sure about but i know BIL is/was a shooter as he and David went out shooting in the morning before we got married...

So there ya have it... Not an anti by any stretch but didn't really care either way for others.

Matt G
September 30, 2003, 07:08 PM
Well, predictably, we have a high # of responses that indicate being born with smokeless powder mixed in our baby formula. Heck, I was one.

Keep 'em coming. This is interesting.

Fudgie Ghost
September 30, 2003, 07:15 PM
I never leaned against guns because you could bend the barrel that way.




;)

sensei
September 30, 2003, 07:35 PM
Born in a typically southern family Several hunting guns around. A couple of handguns around. Bow and Arrows, etc. Taught how to use them at an early age.

Went to Viet Nam. I felt that all of the Bad Guys should have their guns taken away from them. Never changed my mind about that.

Came home and felt naked without a firearm. Had plenty around my house and kept a rifle in my truck. Got a CHL as soon as possible.

I guess I would be considered PRO GUN.

sensei

Holly76201
September 30, 2003, 07:43 PM
Matt,
to make a long story short {if you want the long story, see my 1st post in the White Wing thread} I became afraid of guns after a family accident when I was a child. Becoming a mother changed that and I learned to shoot and was enthusiastic if not proficient by the time we met, some 8 years or so later.
Holly

Werewolf
September 30, 2003, 07:46 PM
Kaylee told us: Who knew ten years later when Daddy said "well, I guess Some Guns are okay, but no one should have Assault Weapons" I'd be able to excuse myself for a sec, and return with an AR-15 and a smile... "you mean like this one?"

If it isn't too forward would you regale us with your Dad's reaction, please?

As an aside a lot of you seem to be embarassed at having been a *liberal* when you were younger. There's no need to feel that way.

As someone once said:

If you're not a liberal when you're young you don't have a heart and if you're not a conservative by the time you hit middle age you don't have a brain.

The attitudes expressed here just goes to show that your average gun owner has both a heart and a brain.

Quartus
September 30, 2003, 07:56 PM
If you're not a liberal when you're young you don't have a heart and if you're not a conservative by the time you hit middle age you don't have a brain.



My problem was I ALWAYS had both a heart and a brain, so naturally I couldn't be a liberal - I had to be a Constitutional conservative. (To distinguish myself from the Bush kind of "conservative")

greyhound
September 30, 2003, 07:57 PM
When I REALLY think about it, my neutral stance changed due to 3 issues:

1. A gun battle in a warehouse down the street, when the burglars live a few houses down from me. Nothing like reading your block # in the paper when it lists the criminal's address.

2. Knowing that there are people out there who want us to forcibly convert to Islam/institute Sharia law. (9/11)

3. Knowing that people are so sick that a svengali and his sidekick will shoot people pumping gas/getting off the bus they drive/buying stuff at Home Depot. If you're not from around here you CANNOT imagine what it was like.

The first two incidents were a wake up call, the last was like an airhorn blown in your ear at 3:00 AM.

Never again will I rely on anyone else to protect me and mine.

Holly76201
September 30, 2003, 07:58 PM
Matt,
to make a long story short {if you want the long story, see my 1st post in the White Wing thread} I became afraid of guns after a family accident when I was a child. Becoming a mother changed that and I learned to shoot and was enthusiastic if not proficient by the time we met, some 8 years or so later.
Holly

durango
September 30, 2003, 09:44 PM
I wrote a report in high school about the need for gun control based on a book I found in the school library. I grew up in a fairly liberal, democratic household and I thought at the time that every sensible person believed in gun control. When I gave my oral report in class, you wouldn't have believed it... the teacher actually challenged my conclusions quite firmly. (I wouldn't think the NEA would allow such a thing!!). Didn't give me a bad grade, but he really made me think. Years later I had a good friend who owned a ruger MKII and I was introduced to plinking. Had such a good time I bought my first gun, a Single Six. A few years later, after an incident in a laundramat where I was accosted by a couple of gangbangers, I realized for the first time that the police are not there to protect us, they are there to help pick up the pieces and start investigations. I now have an everchanging collection of firearms and a CCW. Now my kids are going to the range with me to start learning gun safety and the joys of a .22

I had a coach who used to tell me "even a cockroach can learn". Same goes for liberals.

Zark-9
October 1, 2003, 12:30 AM
OK, I need to weigh in here. We never had real guns in the house until I was about 13 when my dad, who I had never seen handle a gun, produced his old 20 guage he had stored and gave it to me. Its odd, but when I think back on it, he had already taught me the 4 basics when I was a 5 year old playing with my cap pistols and an 8 year old when I got my first Daisy. I think it meant more because he also made sure I understood the difference between toys and weapons, and that I was basically in the posession of toys and had to learn some things first. Later, with his encouragement, I remember getting a kit and reblueing the barrel of that shotgun.

In my "liberal years" I really didn't think about it much but I did contract some contagious thought disorders from my peers. These disorders included ..."guns are ok if you are a hunter", "if you were a real sportsman, why in the world would you need more than a single shot", "no wonder the crime rate is up ...look at all the guns out there", and the ever popular "of course the founding fathers meant for the 2nd amendment to refer to the National Guard!"

I am pleased to report that I have now been cured of these afflictions by the helpful efforts of some very good people, I remember what my Dad taught me so many years ago, and I am quite comfortable with my transformation into a responsible gun owner who understands what he carries, why he carries it, and the debt he owes to so many who gave all so that he can. ;)

Futo Inu
October 1, 2003, 05:08 PM
Many of these stories are cause for real optimism here - it's mind-boggling how many would-be-convert fence-sitters must be out there. Lesson: take someone shooting with your .22!!!!!!!!!

Cosmoline
October 1, 2003, 06:03 PM
I was an anti through and through during college. What changed me was learning about the real world.

Schuey2002
October 1, 2003, 06:10 PM
I popped out of my mother's womb with a Glock in one hand and a 'full cap' in the other.. :D

Jake
October 1, 2003, 07:51 PM
I don't think that being anti would even have been a option in my family. It would probably have led to being disowned by 90% of my family on both sides of the family tree. But then again, I can thankfully say that the thought has never crossed my mind. The closest I came was agreeing with the wife to leave my guns at my Mom's house when we got married. Thankfully those days are gone as she has "seen the light" so to speak. But I'm sure that my Father rolled over in his grave every day during those years.

gearbox
October 1, 2003, 08:09 PM
I think I've been bless with intelligence, practicality, and common sense the majority of my life. :)

Vasilia Zhietzev
October 1, 2003, 09:17 PM
ex-sheep.
comment: i always did have a nagging feeling in the back of my mind: what the hell will happen if i am in aplace where i *have* to fight?

a personal incident & later, Unintended Consequences influenced my way of thinking.

thank god. i am alive today.

ChickenHawk
October 1, 2003, 09:24 PM
Well, my feeling used to be more like, "If guns could be un-invented that would be a good thing."

I'm not truly certain if I don't still feel that way ... but ... after reality set in, I figured I'd better be able to defend myself.

In addition to that, it's just plain fun to go to the range and shoot these things!

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

Ukraine Train
October 1, 2003, 10:01 PM
I lived in Ukraine (then Soviet Union) til I was almost seven so the only guns I ever saw were owned by police. I think the first time I shot a firearm was at Boy Scout camp when I was 11, I got my rifle merit badge the same week:D. I was born with a love for guns I guess. The first gun in the family was mine, a 91/30 Mosin-Nagant, when I turned 18. Mom wasn't happy but she lived with it. I'm now 20 and just got a Mossberg 500 for HD. Mom said, "I'm not happy about it but do what you want" hehe. Next big step is to get a handgun after my birthday, that'll be a hard sell to my mom. So, I'm not really sure how I came to be pro-gun. Maybe it was my dad because even though we never owned guns he liked them and told me about different guns he shot in the Red army. (Don't shoot, hops, we're not commies:) )

Feanaro
October 1, 2003, 10:13 PM
There was always a shotgun sitting by the fireplace (With instructions from my Father never to touch it, unless of course someone was breaking in and he wasn't there. Then I was expected to blow his brains out.) that I knew the basics of but nothing more. I only became interested in firearms at around thirteen. I have always, to my knowledge, thought that you have a right to own firearms. At first it was just because my Father said that, then later after I began to think for myself. I've also always thought personal freedom was paramount, again first because I was simply following my Father's lead and later because I thought it out for myself.

Miss Demeanors
October 2, 2003, 12:20 AM
:o I used to hate guns and more so I was afraid of guns. Almost all anti's in my family so I didn't grow up near them. Thanks to some great people at TFL, I am cured. :D The only way to understand guns and lose fear, is to go shooting, it could really save alot of typing. LOL

HSMITH
October 2, 2003, 11:35 PM
Thanks to some great people at TFL, I am cured. The only way to understand guns and lose fear, is to go shooting, it could really save alot of typing. LOL

So if I read this right you were take shooting by some TFL'ers and that changed your mind?


Someone correct if I am wrong here but it seems that no one on this thread so far has been convinced to change their viewpoint on firearms issues by conversation or debate. At least that is what I am reading.

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