New York gun buyback program


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Ukraine Train
September 29, 2003, 08:14 PM
Hmm... you could get a gun new for like $60 and then get $100 from the cops for it:D
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Pumpkinheaver
September 29, 2003, 08:25 PM
I had a buddy that did that, he bought a bunch of cheap .22's and .25's for like $75 each and "sold" them to one of these buyback programs for $25 profit on each!!! Great idea I thought.

greyhound
September 29, 2003, 08:35 PM
Can someone please explain to me how this helps stop crime? Seriously, I am wondering what the rationale behind this is? Do they really think criminals are so tempted by $100 that they'll turn in their tools of the trade?

Desperate crack head, maybe. The predator type, no way.:cuss:

I guess this looks good to the sheep though. No controversy like aggresive policing, situation based (NOT racial) profiling, zero-tolerance for nuisance crimes, etc.

SoCalGeek
September 29, 2003, 08:37 PM
Yeah, and it's not like that's a waste of money or anything. i mean, this country OBVIOUSLY has plenty of money to throw around. :banghead:

dinosaur
September 29, 2003, 08:38 PM
Last time I think it was $200. A sharp court officer bought some of his buddy`s old service revolvers and made a killing. Very embarrassing for King Rudee.:neener: :D

Zundfolge
September 29, 2003, 09:15 PM
I've often thought of buying up a bunch of cheapo guns like this http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=11991953 just incase they pull that "buy back" crap here.

Looks like a creative way to get some of my tax dollars back :evil:


just look at the prices on these
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=12300066
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=12260879

Mark Tyson
September 29, 2003, 09:41 PM
I knew a guy who bought up cheap guns to turn in at these things; he made 600$ one time.

TimH
September 29, 2003, 09:43 PM
So what would happen if you stood outside where they are buying these guns back and bought the guns before the gov't could get them.

dfariswheel
September 29, 2003, 09:43 PM
I hate to ask inconvenient questions, but how can the city "buy back" something they never owned????

jsalcedo
September 29, 2003, 10:45 PM
If they think spending 10 grand for a box of junk guns and dead husbands war trophies is a sucess then more power to them.



I'm sure they cull the good stuff anyway and sell it off or keep it.

digex
September 29, 2003, 11:11 PM
These programs have always fascinated me. My take it on it is this: This is done to somehow curb crime, I assume. It seems to me that if I were a criminal, I would want to steal more guns so I could take them and sell them, or have someone else sell them for me. Easy $100, no questions asked. Maybe it wouldn't work like that, but that's exactly how I envision this program working.

Standing Wolf
September 29, 2003, 11:35 PM
Can someone please explain to me how this helps stop crime? Seriously, I am wondering what the rationale behind this is?

Obviously, the N.Y.P.D. is out of leave behind guns.

NIGHTWATCH
September 30, 2003, 12:48 AM
"How can the city buy back what it never owned?"

The NYPD has an US V.S. THEM issue. They also think they are doing us a favor. :fire:

NYCASA.COM (http://www.nycasa.com)

Cellar Dweller
September 30, 2003, 01:18 AM
NO QUESTIONS ASKED

Someday some bright thugs are gonna realize that they can clean out old inventory + off some of the "competition" and walk away with cash AND no evidence to be used against them!

"Yo yo yo sees here yo, it wuz only used once yo! GLOCK-GLOCK (or is it raven-raven?) I means I found it on da street yo, I don' wanna see no chillen gets GLOCKED yo"

No questions asked.
No paperwork kept.

A buried or thrown-in-the-river gun can turn up someday; could a "buy-back" gun be used as evidence? Can the "No Questions Asked" policy be twisted into a legal defense, if it was a crime gun (as in self-incrimination or false pretense or entrapment or something)?

Futo Inu
September 30, 2003, 01:31 AM
[checking watch...waiting for Tam to chime in...she simply ADORES gun "buybacks". She's either (a) not yet seen the thread, or (b) more likely, is still recovering from wall-eyed, ring-tailed hissy fit that the caption inspired] :)

3 Lorcins max though - still, that's $300 minus what you paid, and if every good freedom-lover did that, it would throw in a wrench in their intent. Insane. All this is doing is allowing criminals to get rid of their crime guns - free destruction of the incriminating evidence - apparently their goal is to increase crime.

Which THRer is gonna get out their and intercept the good ones by offering $125 just outside of where the buybacks occur?

Trempel
September 30, 2003, 03:29 AM
These buyback programs do nothing to stop crime. Family members that may have inherited historic/antique firearms are tempted to give them away to the govt. so these pieces can be destroyed. Crackheads and other a-holes might be tempted to steal legit. guns from law-abiding citizens so they can sell them. Big city PDs have some balls to ask for guns with "No questions asked". How about letting the free citizens own firearms w/no questions asked?
IMO, if you participate in such programs, you encourage them to continue, which pretty much makes you no better than Clintons and Fiensteins of this world. If you need extra money, start ordering your burgers without cheese.

0007
September 30, 2003, 04:00 AM
Hmmm. What's the penalty for trafficing in sawed-off shotguns?? Do you suppose the batfags are going to stand by the cops and arrest them as they buy "no questions asked" sawed-off shotguns?? Oh, that's right it's OK for "them" to do that... :cuss:

Guntalk
September 30, 2003, 09:14 AM
Wouldn't it be fun to "turn in" several cheap guns, and when the TV crew interviews you, to explain that you are selling the guns so that you can use the money to buy a much more powerful handgun?!

auschip
September 30, 2003, 12:15 PM
Wouldn't it be fun to "turn in" several cheap guns, and when the TV crew interviews you, to explain that you are selling the guns so that you can use the money to buy a much more powerful handgun?!

I can see it now:

News Broadcaster: "Sir? Cindi Covington Action news. I saw you just turned in 200 semiautomatic handguns, how does that make you feel?"

THR Member: "Great Cindi, I made a profit of $8000 dollars!"

News Broadcaster: "I don't understand, a profit? You were able to get 200 evil guns out of the hands of children."

THR Member: "Actually those were brand new guns, I bought them for $60 each and sold them to HCI for $100 each."

News Broadcaster: "I see, so you wanted to make sure these guns never fell into the hands of children?"

THR Member: "Nope, my kids have much better pistols then those, I just wanted to fund my next Class 3 purchase, you wouldn't believe what the cost of a Pre-86 machine gun runs these days."

*Camera cuts THR member out of the shot, then cuts to the news room*

Smoke
September 30, 2003, 01:27 PM
auschip

I would LOVe to see that....however it would never get on the air.:banghead:

Ian Sean
September 30, 2003, 01:54 PM
No questions asked?

Hmmm... I have 2 old SKS stocks and Imbel FAL junk laying around, if I throw a hunk of 1/2" pipe on them with some duct tape do you think I could make a quick $400 bucks? I have an old Fal mag with buggered up lips and a bad spring, I am sure I could pull a fast one on them.

jsalcedo
September 30, 2003, 02:04 PM
That is an excellent Idea.

The last gunshow had SKS stocks for 4 dollars each.

Too bad I've never heard of a gun buyback in San Antonio I think they were giving aways $25 in groceries for every gun turned in near Dallas last year but thats about it.

MagKnightX
September 30, 2003, 03:22 PM
Two things:

1. The picture seems to have changed, to something from washingtonpost.com.

2. Maximum three? What, they think that somebody who would go on a killing spree with five guns won't go on one with two? No, I am not saying that guns make you crazy. I am saying that if they REALLY wanted to get guns off the street, they would take as many as possible. And who would turn in something like a $500 Taurus or a $1000 HK for a measly $100, unless they didn't pay for it?

keederdag
September 30, 2003, 04:40 PM
They did this @#$% in Phoenix a while back, a buncha guy's went down there with H&K-91's, M1A's ect. and asked for fair market value. The ASU prof running the deal started all excited, then deflated rapidly. They were told to shove off, so they went outside an started their own buyback program; the PD showed up an tried to run them off, but one guy was an attorney so they stay'ed in buisness for about six hours before the PD figured out how to cite them and get rid of them. If I remember right it was for not having a permit to use public property for a special event.:cuss:

jimbo
September 30, 2003, 10:11 PM
Not worth it for me. Say gun = $60. Add $15 shipping. In State tax = $6. Dros = $15. Transfer fee = $30.

Total Cost = $120. I'd lose money on every $100 buyback. In the olden days, sure you could pick these up tax free with no transfer fee or Dros at any flea market all day and make a killing. But today, with all the BS fees that are assessed, you can't make money doing this. No way.:cuss:

Sam Adams
October 1, 2003, 11:38 AM
What kind of "gun" does it have to be? After all, a BB gun is a "gun." I think that it would be hilarious (and profitable) to show up with a bunch of BB guns that looked like "real" guns (but which cost you maybe $15) and sell them for $100. If there was no limit, I'd buy a U-Haul full of them at the local Wallyworld and make a ton. Except that they don't do gun "buybacks" in Texas.:(

RocketMan
October 1, 2003, 12:50 PM
What does the story about a four year old shooting his siblings have to do with a New York gun buy back program?
Did the original image posted change?

RAY WOODROW 3RD
October 1, 2003, 08:24 PM
New York had a 2 or 3 gun limit per person on turn-ins. I believe it was $100.00 per pistol, $100.00 per sawed off shotgun, and $50.00 per rifle.

Four of us went up there last year and turned in 3 guns each (my buddy is a gunsmith and gets "junk" all the time). We turned them in, had to come back after the paper work was filled out on all of the guns (cops were just being butt heads because they knew they were "taken for a ride"). We walked around N.Y. and saw the 9/11 hole and the memorials and returned about an hour later for our money. Went home without a problem. THANKS NY!


As per Sam Adams quote:

"What kind of "gun" does it have to be? After all, a BB gun is a "gun." I think that it would be hilarious (and profitable) to show up with a bunch of BB guns that looked like "real" guns (but which cost you maybe $15) and sell them for $100."

We tried that in South Brunswick New Jersey's buy-back but they would not except Pellet guns as firearms even though I need to get a handgun permit to buy one in this state! What a bunch of knot heads!
I tried to argue the point but got nowhere with it. They nearly soiled their pants when we came in with 4 boxes of bb/pellet pistols! You should have seen the look on their faces! Brand new stuff which we paid $20.00 for. We just returned the merchandise when it wasn't excepted.

I look at it as getting some of my transferr fees and permit fees and nick check fees back. If they can steal from me, I can do it back to them. All the stuff traded in was PURE JUNK.

Mr. Bombastic
October 2, 2003, 09:53 AM
What kind of "gun" does it have to be? After all, a BB gun is a "gun."

If they went with similar rules to the UK, a little can of OC spray would be considered a 'firearm'. :barf:

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