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prescobd
January 30, 2009, 01:41 PM
Local gun shop has an unfired COP 357 derringer for $700 + 6%). It is in the box with it's manual. It does appear to be unfired.

Is this a good price for the gun.

Any opinions on this gun. I've did a little research and didn't read any positive reports.

I'm not sure to buy for collection, resale or to fire.

I put a hold on the gun and need to let them now by close of business tomorrow.

Any input will be appreciated.

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rhoggman
January 30, 2009, 01:49 PM
Is this chambered for the .357 Magnum round?

I don't think 357 & derringer really belong together.

rcmodel
January 30, 2009, 01:51 PM
Watch this auction and see what it goes for.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=121676183

Unless you are an advanced collector of odd & weird handguns, I see no point of owning one.

They have a horrendous trigger pull, and resulting poor accuracy of that, and four separate barrels.

As a shooter or carry gun, they are very heavy for only four shots, the company is long gone, there are no parts for them, and nobody makes holsters.

rc

bikerdoc
January 30, 2009, 01:57 PM
I agree with RC, Saw one at a gun show and even the dealer was sorry he took it in trade

NG VI
January 30, 2009, 03:11 PM
If I were loaded I might get it for collection's sake, and I like neat little oddities. For a pure shooter, no way. For carry, no way. There are so many awesome carry pistols and revolvers you can get for that price, many excellent ones would save you enough money to alter them a bit, for instance a CZ PCR or P01 you could probably get a trigger job done with the savings.

David E
January 30, 2009, 03:23 PM
Gun registration preempts any requirement to obtain search warrant.

Not to hijack, but WHO are these comments attributed to ?

Back to topic: I agree with the negative comments on the COP....it's an impossible to shoot oddity.

Jim Watson
January 30, 2009, 03:24 PM
I shot one a few rounds back when they were being made.
.38 wadcutters had a bit of recoil, .38 ball had a good deal more and keyholed the bullet into a 7 yard target, .357 magnum was painful.

I consider it a novelty and not a reasonable choice for a weapon, not with all the compact revolvers and autos available now that will get you more shots with better accuracy and greater comfort.

coop4u2c
January 30, 2009, 03:25 PM
I have seen them go as high as $1200.00
I had the pleasure of shooting one and it was a blast. One of the coolest guns made and quite accurate at 7 yds. If I could, I'd buy one!

hankdatank1362
January 30, 2009, 03:29 PM
Looks like a fun toy for those with money to burn.

NG VI
January 30, 2009, 03:52 PM
Not to hijack, but WHO are these comments attributed to ?

No one special, just some clown on another forum I frequent. PM me if you want to help out over there, it can be fun. But there are plenty of fools like the one whose comments I used for my sig line.


$1200 for one of these? Wow...

mrt949
January 30, 2009, 06:32 PM
A so called friend had one let me be the first to fire it .nice friend .he never shot it .:eek:

Dimis
January 31, 2009, 01:36 AM
saw one at a local shop about a week ago his went for 900 on one of the auction sites and it had been fired a few times (nothing abusive just used) it was in a presentation box with papers

if i had the extra funding id get one i love odd stuff like that

outerlimit
January 31, 2009, 03:22 AM
They were cool guns in their day. I used to own one. I don't know why somebody would say they are impossible to shoot, unless they've never owned one.

Anyways, the Kahr MK9 is a better choice nowadays. A NIB COP357 is more a collector gun than a shooter.

aw82
January 31, 2009, 10:47 AM
i read a post a few years ago on this same subject. pretty good arguments.
www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-3913.html

pharmer
January 31, 2009, 11:13 AM
For $700 you can get a really nice handgun. Buy the COP and you'll regret it, a week after the "novelty" wears off. Joe

CDH
February 1, 2009, 10:21 AM
I almost bought a brand new COP at a gun show maybe 20 to 25 years ago (memory fades...).
It really appealed to me in some whacky way, but I passed on it because it was just too bulky for practical use. Back then, there was not such thing as a CCW license, and when I did carry (or maybe I never did... who knows?), my only and best option at the time for deep conceal was a PPK.

Anyway, I really did "almost" buy one so I have to admit it's sort of neat, but today, it's just a curio, and there are way too many other guns I'd like to have before I'd spend $700 on a COP.

Double Naught Spy
February 1, 2009, 11:02 AM
I have one. It is a great shooter if you want to shoot patterns (not groups). The 357 round isn't nice to shoot from this platform, but you can shoot .38 spl from it. It is bulky for a 4 shot. Reloads are very slow. The trigger has the feel of a child safety lock (waaay too heavy trigger pull).

I shoot mine every couple of years to remind myself how much it sucks.

wnycollector
February 1, 2009, 11:13 AM
My father-in-law picked one up years ago on a whim...its still unfired! He has promised that sometime down the road it will be mine...lucky me:o As far as $700 thats way to high, I see one or two per year at gun shows and they are always in the $400-500 range.

prescobd
February 1, 2009, 03:21 PM
Thanks for all the input. I decided against the gun. If anyone is interested, it is at Bob's Gun & Tackle, Hastings, MI. (269)945-4106

mrt949
February 1, 2009, 05:56 PM
Buy it at a bait and tackle it must be a sinker ;)

Ron James
February 1, 2009, 06:11 PM
It was also made in .22 rimfire.

ahpd1992
February 1, 2009, 06:33 PM
I have one, its a very cool gun. .357 kicks like hell, .38 only a little less. One thing to consider, Derringer's can be fired from a pocket w/o fear of anything jamming as there aren't any moving parts.

I agree the gun is somewhat of a novelty, but I like the concept and would like to see a modernized version, maybe lighter weight. There is something WAY Menacing about looking at the business end of 4 barrels.

rcmodel
February 1, 2009, 06:36 PM
Maybe Ruger will make a plastic one!

rc

Double Naught Spy
February 1, 2009, 08:00 PM
One thing to consider, Derringer's can be fired from a pocket w/o fear of anything jamming as there aren't any moving parts.

LOL! There are no exposed moving parts relative to the cycling of the gun, I think you mean.

It was also made in .22 rimfire.

COP, Inc. made a .22 rimfire version?

Janos Dracwlya
February 2, 2009, 09:45 PM
I've been wanting one for the novelty for years, but every time they've come along I've either been short on cash or interested in getting something else in particular (and therefore short on cash for anything else). I've never seen one go for more than $500; one I saw at a show a few years ago even had a very nice leather holster. I think that was around 2000 or 2001 (I remember the guy at a nearby boot going on about how things were going to be great for us now that GWB had been elected...), and the seller wanted around $400.

One day I'll get one, but I would pass at $700.

makarovnik
February 3, 2009, 02:14 AM
Neat guns but they are fat and hardly more concealable than a good snubnose revolver.

outerlimit
February 3, 2009, 03:13 PM
It was also made in .22 rimfire.

I've never seen or heard of a COP in any caliber other than .38/.357.

Do you have any more info?

Claude Clay
February 3, 2009, 03:25 PM
if you buy one get a boat also--

thusly you can use one waste of $ as an anchor for the other $ pit

Owen Sparks
February 3, 2009, 06:16 PM
There is a good reason they quit making these things.

I had some experience with one years ago and all I can say is stay away from it! ANY good revolver should out preform it. I have no idea why it is $700. Back when they were still being made they were not nearly that expensive. Seriously though, avoid this contraption and get a real handgun.

gglass
February 3, 2009, 08:32 PM
You better buy two so that you will have replacement parts.

GregGry
February 3, 2009, 09:28 PM
It must be asked... Can you fire all 4 barrels at once?


No I am not a recoil junkie, however I find things such as 12ga hand held pistols to be really funny :D

Double Naught Spy
February 3, 2009, 11:33 PM
No. 1 at a time.

outerlimit
February 4, 2009, 01:35 AM
The hammer rotates clockwise between the barrels.

I agree it would be pretty cool if you could fire them all at once. :D

saltydog452
February 4, 2009, 11:47 AM
A .357 pepperbox...The idea sounds about as neat as lots of others that seem to float around.

Then again, I kinda like fooling around with the RG, pot metal, .22 short revolver loaded with CB caps.

salty

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