[tigger2]

I live in a small town in Northwest Georgia. I started noticing low supplies of
ammo a few months ago. Walmart and a couple of pawn shops here are the main choices. Walmart has gone from low to out most of the time. The pawn shop that I use is mostly low, not out. A year ago there was a surplus.

[Snowdog]

Yeah, I hear you. It's fairly well known now of a price increase and what appears to be a shortage (undoubtedly from those stocking up in fear of future price hikes in light of the war and current administration).

Traditionally, I purchase my .22LR ammunition from Walmart in "bricks" as their prices are hard to beat. Now it's uncommon for my local Walmart to have .22LR in stock.
There's also a backorder on most handgun ammunition and reloading components online (where I do the vast majority of my ammunition/reloading purchases) even from the larger suppliers such as Midway.

I'm down to my last 500 or so primers and have little ammunition on hand, so I've just about ceased my range visits. I suspect the price of loaded ammunition will eventually level out as the availability becomes more common. However, like the price of gas, I suspect it will take quite a bit more time for the prices to decrease than it took to climb into the stratosphere.

[MMCSRET]

The way we out here in the west hear it is, that its been that way in Georgia and Alabama ever since folks heard about Russia invading Northern Georgia last summer.

[jad0110]

Yeah, I was talking to the guy behind the counter and Wal-Mart and he said both his WM and the other down the road sold 5500 rounds of 22 in just a couple of hours. They were almost completely out of handgun ammo (all but some 44 Magnum and 40 S&W) and rifle ammo. I've never seen it that wiped out before. :banghead:

[jwr747]

love my basement,three walls,10x7 each,floor to celing ammo cans. jwr

[texas bulldog]

guys...this is hardly new information. there are at least three such threads each week. the early bird gets the worm in situations like these.

[mrt949]

wall mart still out in my area checked 3 different stores:mad:

[Hanafuda]

I snagged 5 boxes of WWB 9mm 115gr FMJ this A.M. at my WalMart, but that was all they had left of that particular flavor to sell. Guess I'll just have to saunter by the counter and take a peek every time I'm there.

[dudester]

Yup. I had to buy my .40 and .380 at the range today because the two Wal Marts where I live are out and the local gun shop was out of FMJ ammo. Man I remember when you could buy ammo at the corner store...

[Dodahdude]

Same in the south central part of Kansas. No ammo or reload supplies... Everyone is scared. It's supply and demand. Like the oil companies.:banghead:

[Boba Fett]

In the Houston and Louisiana area Wally Worlds I've been to in the last 3+ months (about 5 stores), they have been short on ammo.

Gander Mountain has had minor shortages mainly in their self-defense ammo. Usually replenished within a week to a month.

The gun shows have had plenty.

Academy has had everything in stock when I've visited.


But I usually get my ammo from AmmunitionToGo.com. No real shortage there. From time I place an order, it is usually on my doorstep in a week or less.

[delta5]

I dont blame people for being scared. The wolves are scratching at our doors now. The majority of the people in this country elected a huge anti-gun liberal to be their leader, and elected enough liberals to take over congress, so they deserve what they get. Its going to be an interesting 4 years... Im even considering getting together with some friends that cast their own bullets and do a casting blitz...

[punkndisorderly]

I'm down in the South Houston area. The local Wally Worlds are pretty bare the last few times I've stopped in. The three loads I shoot the most, and look for the most are .223, 9mm, and 22lr. While they are easily among the most popular calibers out there, the local Wal Marts seem to only have 45 grain 223. 9mm is usually either bare or Blaser, .22lr is hit or miss.

Academy seems fairly well stocked except for the .223 shelf which is either totally bare or has only cheap Monarch stuff. That was the case 12 months ago, so nothing new there.

Haven't been to Gander or Bass Pro since January 1st. It seemed well stocked when I was there though.

The gun show had lots of ammo, but was short of the popular self defense ammo like 9mm Gold Dots and short of Bulk .223.

I think it's a combination of factors. Some of it is caused by people not finding what they want and then buying like crazy the next time they find it, some is stockpiling, some is due to high demand for ammo by the military and other uses (like building nuclear reactors).

Some of it seems to be the number of new firearms being sold right now. When you get a new gun, you have to get ammo for it and break it in. People seem to be shoting more in general as well. Lot's more people at the range burning through ammo with their semi-autos. Lots fewer carefully zeroing their hunting rifles and revolvers and then leaving with most of the box of ammo left.

[outerlimit]

I haven't done any panic buying myself. In fact I haven't bought anything gun related in a long time.

It's been too cold to shoot anyways.

I'm guessing things will be more calm a couple months down the road. Prices will be lower and the economy will be worse yet. Why buy high?

[gallo]

The advise I got from the guy at wal-mart was to show up late at night when they unload the trailer and stock the ammo racks or early in the morning before people buy it.

I had been buying about 100 rounds a month of 9mm but I have not been able to get any in the last 6 weeks.

[cloudcroft]

punkndisorderly,

I'm in Galveston, too. Stayed on the island for Hurricane Ike and was armed in case of looters here at my condo/apartment complex.

If I am here next hurricane season, plan to stay again.

-- John D.

[tasco 74]

looked in sheel's for powder and primers the other day and they were out of my primers and out of my powder..........:(

[Boba Fett]

cloudcroft

Glad you made it through! Hope you are here next hurricane season and that there aren't any more hurricanes.

[cloudcroft]

Boba,

Just saw your post....thanks for your comment.

If they don't raise my rent too much come June 1st when I renew my lease, then I will be here for another year...and will stay for any hurricane that comes regardless of the category.

But with the weather seemingly getting erratic lately, I wouldn't be surprised if we have another "storm of the century" (or more) down here this coming hurricane season. Galveston is having a hard time coming back from Ike and another 1 or 2 serious storms would probably make this island a deserted one.

-- John D.

[BMRisko]

It is harder to find in TN and N. AL, but Wal-marts are still getting shipments. I have been finding Blazer Brass and Federal quite easily. You can always order in bulk online for roughly the same price.

[okespe04]

People went on the gun buying craze then got home and realized guns run on ammo.

[Redneck with a 40]

I reload, so I'm not being held hostage by the ammo companies.:neener: I've got a good stock of powder, primers, brass, and bullets.:) The only factory ammo that I buy, 22 mag and 22 LR, I have been able to get at Wal-Mart, no issues.

[KevinAbbeyTech]

I reload, so I'm not being held hostage by the ammo companies.

That's the way to go.
Too bad I can't make my own .22 LR's, but I have a secret source of them and will never run out!
I wish I could get them at Walmart (cheaper), but they have been out for a month now.

[BlacklabelOP]

Yeah, I was talking to the guy behind the counter and Wal-Mart and he said both his WM and the other down the road sold 5500 rounds of 22 in just a couple of hours. They were almost completely out of handgun ammo (all but some 44 Magnum and 40 S&W) and rifle ammo. I've never seen it that wiped out before.


whenever I go to WM I buy that much .22 ammo by myself.. U can never have enough .22 laying around

[colemanw]

My local Bi-Mart (no major chains in my town :neener:) cant keep ammo in stock... I went in there a few days ago and bought the last two bricks of .22lr I was surprised to see a few boxes of some .45 230gr but they wanted 20 bucks each! makes me sick... ya know, 1911 .22 conversions are nice and all... but sometimes you want the real deal-

[outerlimit]

Oh well, I don't shoot much anyways. All I do is buy them and tinker with them. When I think of buying a couple of cases of ammo, I think I'll buy another gun instead. :D

[bottom shelf]

Hey guys, how many 22lr cartridges are in a "brick"? Is it one of those bulk pack boxes of 550?

[Sheldon]

550 is the count of the rounds in the box when we refer to the Federal rimfire bulk boxes at WM.

[easyrider6042004@yahoo.ca]

how many 22lr cartridges are in a "brick"? Is it one of those bulk pack boxes of 550?

A brick has 10 boxes of 50 rds. each, probably called such because of its size and weight.

[DAdams]

Lenoir City, TN Exit 81 in E TN runs out of popular calibers the day after it comes in. People know when the truck usually comes in and are there bright and early the next morning.

Chattanooga, TN, Sportsman Warehouse pretty much the same condition particuarly 30/30, .223, .45, 9mm, 38/357. Wiped out.

Loading/reload supplies for rifle and handgun cleaned out.

There were no small rifle primers. No brass of popular rounds.
Powder was in pretty good shape.

No Hornady acessories.

Very few handguns. I asked when they would get S&W M&P 9C and the guy just kind of chuckled and said it had been awhile since they had compact .40 or 9mm.
They did have a .45C in stock $569 no lock nor mag safety. Probably should have bought it but I was on the run.

Gander Mountain
Turkey Creek
Farragut, TN

No loader, no reloading supplies.
Most popular ammunition with the exception of .22 cleaned out.
There were a few .223 Green Box value packs.
Most handgun PD stuff in popular rounds not in stock.
No 30/30 LeveRevolution.

Cabellas:
Reloading components for Hornady LnL, 6-8 week leadtime.

One of these day things will improve. In the meantime be vigilant, it is hit and miss but most of this stuff can be found and delivered within two weeks except the Hornady components.

[A-FIXER]

:what:Walmart in 3 nebr local's looks like eveywhere else bare shelves. And when they do get a shippment I'm last to find out it seem, I don't have 3 walls full but HEE HEE would like too.....:what:

[Adenn1]

I stopped by my Super Wally and they finally had some Blaxer Brass back in...in 9mm and .40...but they had no .45. I found the counter guy with the key and he told me they were stocking the shelf that morning and a guy came up and bought every box of .45 they had...all forty boxes for $650.

Wishes these guys would leave some for the rest of us...I just want a couple of boxes. Who know when they will get more in. :cuss:

[BCCL]

I've been having some luck finding ammo at a few "feed and seed" type stores that folks seem to have forgotten that they sell ammo.

[David E]

A brick has 10 boxes of 50 rds. each..........

Not necessarily. Federal, for example, has replaced the 50 rd boxes with 40 rd boxes of the same size. Very similar to the coffee makers putting less coffee inside the same size can and charging the same price.

It states the quantity on the brick, (or coffee can) but I'm sure they're banking on the fact that most people will simply assume that they're buying 500 rds, not the 400 they're actually getting.

.

[outerlimit]

I found the counter guy with the key and he told me they were stocking the shelf that morning and a guy came up and bought every box of .45 they had...all forty boxes for $650.

That guy's an idiot. If you're gonna buy that much, order it online, and save some for us guys that like to stop by the store and pick some up on the way to the range. And save some $$$ too. People like that only add to the hysteria. I hope this rush is over soon, but with people acting like that, I'm not counting on it.

[noeyedeer]

Why the heck can't you guys just limit yourselves to half of what's there?

Leave some for the next guy.

You might be the second or third guy one day.

[punkndisorderly]

Since my earlier post, I stopped into Walley World a few times and they were completely out of 9mm and .45 both trips. They had .223 on one trip, but it was 45 grain stuff so I passed.

Took a couple of trips to Bass Pro Shops as I was passing by on my way home from clients and they were out of 9mm and .45 other than some high dollar stuff that's not realy suitable for general range duty. They were out of .223 as well other than some expensive Hornady stuff.

I also went to Academy once or twice with no luck. Today, however, I hit paydirt at Academy. They had 440 rounds of Federal 5.56, a hundred round box of Winchester White Box .45 and 3 boxes of Winchester White Box 9mm Nato. I purchased all of it.

It was getting to the point where I was only shooting .22lr (which I seem to be able to find easily enough). I was down to a couple hundred rounds of 9mm and 5.56 and was afraid to shoot it lest I not be able to get more.

I'd be really interested in hearing from the ammo companies what the heck is up and when they think they'll be able to ramp up production to meet demand. Seems like they really got caught with their pants down with the extreme demand for 9mm, .45, and .223. I wonder if they've upped their output much at all and are viewing the current demand as a bubble waiting to burst.

[calaverasslim]

Slim's Gun Shop has plenty of 38.357. 44s and 45. Got lots. Not for sale, tho... :D ;)

[outerlimit]

Been there, done that. several times. It is nice to have a friend in sporting goods that will give you a wake up call and tell you to come see him!

Well, I just got a gun back from a manufacturer that had to have the slide replaced. I need to test it out, I'd like to stop by Walmart on the way to the range to pick up a box of 9mm. I hope you haven't been there first. :neener:

Seriously.. :scrutiny:

[S&W620]

I'm with the majority on this one. If a guy plans to drop 7 bills on ammo, why not just order online and save a few boxes for the rest of us, and probably save some money in the process.

[Anger]

Where are people ordering bulk bronze cased 9mm? I've seen ammo at ca-bella's. Their prices aren't that good IMO PLUS they're backordered on most every 9mm variety.

After many trips to local stores and picking up their last box here, there but 4/5 trips are empty handed, I too would buy out walmart's shelves and be done with it.

[phoglund]

Ordering online seems to be the way to go. Only thing is there will be a bit of a wait (for delivery if nothing else) and it only makes sense to purchase bulk. Last week I ordered 900 rounds of 9mm, 1,000 rounds of 7.62X39, 400 rounds of 5.56X45, 1,240 rounds of 7.62X25, and 250 rounds of .45ACP. I just want some shooting ammo, not to lay in a contingency supply (I already have that ;))

The annoying part is those of us that normally buy ammo can't get any locally because of those who don't normally keep a supply but are now worried and panic buying. I'm sure if nothing major happens to further panic these folks the supply will begin to return to normal before too long. It would be interesting to know if the panic buyers keep a supply for future scares when this one is over...or just use what they have and go back to their low supply norm.

[stonecoldy]

When you have plenty on handfor yourself yet are not happy with availability, what can you expect? Would you expect anyone else to feel differently? And I'm not pointing the finger at phoglund, just the situation.
I have accumulated enough 9mm, .223, .38 special and .45 ammo mostly for using the brass for reloading, and in my travels for business pick up factory loaded stuff and reloading supplies when found at a good price, but I'm not a shelf cleaner.
I don't plan on wasting ammo. You can't eat bullets and can only drag around so much in dire situations.
So I put my .22 conversion on my Kimber for practice and fun, and the Ruger Mark II gets more use also. And the .38 cal revolvers get enough practice with the rubber X-bullets in the garage with a cardboard bullet trap.
It's not my choice but works for now.

[chuckusaret]

I always get 90% of my target ammo at Wal Mart. They receive their shipments the same day of the week and restock ammo the same night. I just make sure I am their around 9PM. I always buy as much 9MM, 40 cal and 12 ga as possible. .40 cal has gone from $9.95 in 2007 to $16.95 for 50 rounds. Gander Mountain sell Remington 40 cal for $114.50 for 250 rnds,,,rip off..I got a case of WWB for $150 out the door at the gun show two weeks ago. I have stockpiled a minimum of 1,000 rnds per caliber gun. Good storage space is at a shortage in my house. Most closets are filled with ammo cans.

[Anger]

got me a 1000 rd case of 9mm brass fmj so no more walmart slumming for me

[Hungry Seagull]

I always leave one last box or two for someone else. Ive had some shot gun ammo that finally came in found in person, only 4 boxes, I left two behind for someone else to buy.

It may not be much in this world of hording, but taking the very last item when you can find it online without too much trouble is not in me.

I have never experienced shortages on this scale before. I believe that the entire USA is arming up for bear.

Spending? Sure, look at the firearms industry. =)

[azhunter122]

Yep, it all still sucks. I checked today at Wal-Mart.

[BlackHand1917]

Here in Central Arkansas the supply situation is "spotty." The Wal-Mart shelves are virtually bare, except for .22LR, shotgun shells and the rarer hunting calbers. Same goes for Academy Sports. Last weekend, I bagged the last box of Blaser .38 Special 158 gr. LRN at Academy. The situation is a lot better at Arego's in Hot Springs. They seem to have everything except 7.62X39 and FMJ .380ACP. They had expensive .380 self-defense ammo, which I bought because of the terrible nationwide shortage of that round. A lot of popular calibers are sparse on the web. Because there seems to be no shortage of corrosive 7.62X25 and 8mm Mauser from the former Eastern Bloc countries, I am taking my old, beat-up Yugo Mauser and my CZ-52 out of semi-retirement and plan to use them as my main "practice" weapons until the hysteria cools down. I will also shoot a bit of .22 LR and 12 guage because the shortages of these rounds seem less acute.

[Schuey2002]

My Walmart just got in a ton of ammo last Monday.

They had boxes and boxes of 9mm FMJ, 9mm HP's, .45ACP, .40S&W, .223, .22LR, and even .308 Win. in their display cases.

It was like I had been transported back in time, before BO got into office.. :cool:

[Anger]

Cool biz, I'll check mine again for a couple boxes of .40 as I never loaded up, living box(s) to box(s). between range outings.

[chihuahuatn]

Yea I used to think this was not a big issue...until the Walmart's around me were out, my regular online vendors are currently out of ammo too, seriously I agree!

[Gardien]

I order online b/c none of the small, local gun shops have what I need (5.56 and .38 spl). Just rec'd a shipment of 2k x 5.56 and am expecting another 1k+ of .38 spl.

[ZombiesAhead]

Stop the presses everyone! Breaking news! Ammunition is in higher demand these days than suppliers are tooled-up for!

[wrc376]

My local store cant keep it in stock

[Redhawk1]

Reload...... :)

[jackstinson]

Reload
All you have to do is find a place which has the dies and components in stock. I just looked for .380acp dies last night...I'm sure someone somewhere has them for sale, but it ain't Natchez, Midway, Graf, etc. Components (primers and such) for reloading have also gone up and are becoming as sold-out as ammo.
One thing that would help is if people would STOP ordering 1,000-5,000 rounds at a pop, then perhaps ammo could flow out to everyone. Let someone else have a few boxes also to shoot this month. Sure, everyone is in a panic....but WE have created an artificial shortage. The ammo companies, distributors, and politicians are laughing at us all the way to the bank. It's win-win for them....it's lose-lose for us.
I'm seriously considering selling off a lot of my centerfire hand guns, simply because it has steadily become more expensive and more of a hassle to get ammo and/or ammo components to shoot them than it is worth.
Jack

[Redhawk1]

All you have to do is find a place which has the dies and components in stock. I just looked for .380acp dies last night...I'm sure someone somewhere has them for sale, but it ain't Natchez, Midway, Graf, etc. Components (primers and such) for reloading have also gone up and are becoming as sold-out as ammo.
One thing that would help is if people would STOP ordering 1,000-5,000 rounds at a pop, then perhaps ammo could flow out to everyone. Let someone else have a few boxes also to shoot this month. Sure, everyone is in a panic....but WE have created an artificial shortage. The ammo companies, distributors, and politicians are laughing at us all the way to the bank. It's win-win for them....it's lose-lose for us.
I'm seriously considering selling off a lot of my centerfire hand guns, simply because it has steadily become more expensive and more of a hassle to get ammo and/or ammo components to shoot them than it is worth.
Jack

That is what they want you to do...

If you have a hard time finding dies, contact your local gun shop, they can get them from there distributors.

If you are looking for brass, put a add in the classified area for brass. There are people selling brass all over all the time.

Again, if you want ammo, order it like I do from my local gun shop, I get better prices and get what I need.

[Deanimator]

Reload
I've probably got 5,000 .38 Special cases alone.

My problem was that I need self-defense ammunition, and almost NOBODY had anything but FMJ, which I won't carry in my CCW guns. I tried for the better part of a month to buy some Hornady 200gr. TAP .45acps. After canceling two unfillable orders, I ended up buying 230gr. Speer Gold Dots from Graf's in Mexico, MO.

For practice, I've got AT LEAST a year's worth of reloading supplies.

[phoglund]

I've looked at a couple of local shops in the last few days and the ammo is beginning to trickle in. One place had .45ACP, 38Spl, .223, 308, 9mm, and 40 cal. Last week they didn't have anything in any of those calibers. It was good to see. :) Hopefully it will be a continuing trend.

[DAdams]

how much ammunition is bought by or on behalf of the narco trafficante Mexico drug guys? Sent back over the border or used to fund the gang/distribution activity in the US. With all the arms, this ammunition must be coming from where?

I saw the big raid last night on the idiot box and all the confiscated weaponry and it crossed my feeble mind. :scrutiny:

[jackstinson]

That is what they want you to do...
What who wants me to do? The ammo suppliers?
Or is it a conspiracy by the government remove my guns by having people freak out and buy cases upon cases of ammo in the past four months? ;)

Again, if you want ammo, order it like I do from my local gun shop, I get better prices and get what I need.
My local gun shop...Vance's....one of the largest shops in the state and one which supplies many LEO departments in central Ohio....has not had .380acp for weeks (.32acp also). The salesguys were laughing about it with me when I was in there last week.
If they can't get it themselves for their own stock, how would they order it for me any sooner? :)
Jack

[Redhawk1]

jackstinson, yes the government. lol...

I don't have a problem getting ammo, but then again I reload for 90% of my guns.

The only factory ammo I buy is for my CCW. I have a case of 9mm, 40 S&W and 380 Auto.

[Matt C]

There's a major shortage out here in Vegas too. Local wally worlds, Big 5, Sportsman's Warehouse, and most shops sell out of all handgun ammo the day they get a shipment in. Its crazy to see all the empty shelf space. It makes you want to buy more than you need when you actually find some.

[cindynles]

My local WM actually had 12 boxes of 9mm Blazer Brass when I walked by the counter. I only bought 6 boxes:rolleyes: I left some for the next guy. I really wanted to clean them out, but then I remembered the last 6 times I tried to get some when they were out.

[rundm]

the reason why people are buying so much a wal mart and such instead of going online is that for 45 ammo, pmc gold, they sell it for 16.50 or so. weidners sells wolf for that much and then you have to pay shipping on it also. yeah the dude had to pay taxes and stuff but he has it in hand right now and does not have to wait. alot of the online houses are sold out on everything. weidners had south african 45 that lasted a short time but they are out now and it was the same price as walmart. you can still get wolf but of course it is not reloadable. hopefully, supplies will catch up when people stop hoarding as much, at least until the idiots we have running the country say or do something stupid.

[atygrit]

My local Wal-Mart had 19 boxes Blazer Brass in 9mm. I bough 4 for me and 4 for a friend. Considering I have been looking in every Wal-Mart in the area I came across I thought I hit the jackpot. Friday turned out to be a good day.

[jjohnson]

All I gotta say is I hope nobody on this forum who's griping voted for anyone responsible for this situation.

I remember not that long ago, when I had some business trips to New York, I asked quite a few people if they'd voted for Hillary.:eek: I mean, I asked the cab drivers, hotel clerks, the business people I was meeting with - and I'll be damned if any ONE of them would admit :scrutiny: voting for her. Somebody did, though - where did all THOSE people go?

[503glock]

ammo is short here and there i think this has gotten past the point of a response it just isnt coming back in to the market place . is it really supply out pacing a high demand , or has there been a change. this is starting to impact me now. i dont know where this is going but i need some and cant get it.

[LeonCarr]

Ok, why is it that ammo is flying off the shelves and ammo companies aren't making more to meet the demand. You know, the whole supply and demand thing?

Makes no sense why you have a product that everybody is buying and you are not wanting to make bunches of it to sell. Build it, and we will come :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

[Lonestar.45]

Whoa, wait a second.....there's an ammo shortage???:what:

[rundm]

companies can not just buy more machines to make more bullets. those machines cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for all the tooling and such. I am sure they would much rather run 24/7 with less machines then to make large purchases for things that might not be worth it if sales slow down. Better to have a shortage of supply for them because everyone will continue to buy the way they are instead of stuff sitting on the shelfs because everyone is stocked up.

[4Freedom]

I have never seen any commodity or item for sale in USA that has been rationed. THis looks to me like the depression in the 1930s. I see many gun stores saying that they will only sell 1000 rounds to a single customer. A 1000 round limit? :eek: Have you ever heard of a electronic stores saying they will only let you buy 1000 Blue Ray players or 1000 video games? You can only buy 1000 televisions? For those who think there is no ammo shortage, I think you are naive or just haven't been shopping lately.

[Hungry Seagull]

I like to see Remington here in Arkansas increase thier capacity, production facility, expand new floor/space for workers and thier machines to make more bullets and guns faster.

But alas you can only grow so big. It's a image of a person too fat to maintain adequate oxygen flow in the blood from lungs to tippy toes.

It would take year or more to get the stuff settled to begin construction on expansion to Remington. Besides, there are bunkers out back of teh plant. No one moves whenever a red light is on over any one of them.

[imprezagm4]

Just bought my first handgun today... a PT140, went to Sportsman's Warehouse for ammo, nothing... not a single box of 40. Went to Joes across the parking lot... one box of american eagle.

[MDG1976]

was at Cabelas today, they were pretty well stocked.

[mbutler101]

This is by design folks....something is imminent. What good is a gun, if you have no ammunition to use in it? In the immortal words of one Han Solo, "I've got a bad feeling about this."

[David E]

Was told yesterday that Federal is making NO .380 ammo right now. The same machines also make 9mm ammo, so they are focusing on that only.

.

[Hoot Gibson]

I'll be at the Fort Wayne(IN) Gun Show this weekend, and report back on what is/isn't available, ammo wise, and how much(amount) and how much $

[Hoot Gibson]

No .380 ammo at Fort Wayne...plenty of others, but some prices were HIGH...heading to the Lima, Ohio, show tomorrow...will see what shakes out.

[Resto Guy]

Yesterday I stopped at a gun store in Greenville, NC, and they were out of handgun ammo. Nothing. This morning I hit the Wal Mart and picked up the only 3 boxes.

[Hungry Seagull]

Three stores did not have .45 ACP yesterday, however there were stacks of .40 and other calibers all over the place with more boxes waiting to be unpacked.

I think there were about 12 of people total telling each other where they might find more .45 ACP.

Situation isnt going to improve soon; not with so many hunting for the same caliber.

[Dan Crocker]

Good ol' Wal-Mart has been my most dependable supply of ammo lately. Picked up 3 100 d boxes of .45 ACP, but can't find 9mm anywhere! Obama: world's greatest gun salesman!

[higene]

Saturday I went to Sportsman's Warehouse in Orchards, Washington. The ammo shelves were bare. Two weeks ago they had 2' x 4' sheets of plywood stocked with all manner of pistol and black gun ammo. It's all gone. They had pallets of 22 ammo and its all gone. there were 2 bricks of Federal 22lr ammo in the store.

WTFO??


Higene

:cuss:

[stonecutter2]

Picked up a 550 bulk pack of 22LR Remington Golden Bullet HP at Walmart, and Winchester white box 38 special FMJ. Shelves were really bare.

I've found that occasionally just stopping in and getting a box or two is fine by me, to slowly build the supply up for me. This way I'm spreading out what's available to anyone else who comes in, instead of seeing X amounts of boxes in the store and buying them all. I have no urgent need for 1000's of rounds of ammo. I've held off on range visits until I can get a sizable amount stowed away, too. I'd rather collect some ammo for now, and wait for springtime plinking with friends out in the field.

I really think that suppliers are having a hard time right now, and that's all it comes down to.

[Schuey2002]

Just bought my first handgun today... a PT140, went to Sportsman's Warehouse for ammo, nothing... not a single box of 40. Went to Joes across the parking lot... one box of american eagle.
It's funny. Any brand of 9mm ammo sells out almost instantly over on this side of the state. While .40 S&W just lingers on the shelves collecting dust...

[outerlimit]

People are STILL HOARDING :banghead:

Jeez, this time I was at Walmart yesterday and there was ABSOLUTELY NO 9x19mm or .45acp what so ever. Not even the crappy stuff. I couldn't friggin believe it, I expected it to all be restocked.


A couple of boxes of .40S&W though.

[searcher451]

The longer this goes on, the worse it gets, it seems. Once you see an ammo shelf bare in a gun store, the logical reaction is to stock up the next time you actually see ammo available so that you are never put into the uncomfortable position of seeing the shelf bare again. And so the madness continues, day after day, across the country. The bottom line is that we've all gone nuts.

Stop it, good people. Put an end to it now. :cuss:

[MikePGS]

And so the madness continues, day after day, across the country. The bottom line is that we've all gone nuts.
Exactly. We have no one to blame but ourselves for the current ammo/gun shortage/gouging.

[paradox998]

Walmart's in upstate NY are out of all the commonly used calibers. If you find anything in stock, buy it because it will not be there tomorrow. Ammo stores well and with hard left in charge in Washington, I would rather stock up than wish that I had!

[twoclones]

I'm sure glad I bought my reloading equipment when I did. It was a big chunk of money but I've got more .357 ammo than all the stores in town :)

[outerlimit]

Same thing yesterday, still no 9mm or .45. A couple of boxes of .40 and .357Sig like before.

[Redhawk1]

I have been talking to a lot of gun shops, and they can't get the ammo, much lees put it on there shelves to sell.

32 ACP, 380 ACP, 9 mm, 40 S&W 45 ACP are the hard ones to get.

After speaking with the gun shop owners, they think there is more to it then just people hoarding ammo. Yes more and more people are buying ammo, but not so much as to put the supply as low as it is. I am beginning to believe them, that there may be more to it than we all know or are told.. Yea there are guys buying extra boxes of ammo, but not enough the create the shortage.

No one can tell me the ammo manufactories can't keep up with the ammo demand. That is pure BS.

It is not only ammo that is in short supply, reloading components are getting harder and harder to find, primers, powder, brass etc..

[LightningCrash]

Gun sales in Tulsa are up 87% in the past year. Think that has anything to do with it?

[metallic]

I went to Bass Pro Shop on Saturday and it was like some bizarre scene out of a movie. The parking lot was absolutely packed and everyone was snatching up handgun ammo like crazy. All they had left was some .38 on the shelves. Left, went to Wal-Mart and the same story. It was like someone banned guns and no one told me!!!

Finally, made one last stop at Academy Sports and ammo nirvana! The shelves were chock full of .45ACP! There was a thousand rounds on the shelf easy! I should have bought them out.

[Coltman 77]

Getting ammo from Wally World is a tough deal in my area right now.

The shelves are always bare. :mad:

However, over the years I've maintained good relationships with a few local gun stores and that has been a plus. They're taking care of their loyal customers now.

Just yesterday, I picked up a small quantity of FMC 115 gr 9mm for 12.50 per box.

Also, got a small quantity of Federal American Eagle 158 gr jsp .357 for 21.00 per box.

Not as cheap as Wally --but still a fair price.

Sometimes supporting local businesses can pay off years later... :)

[Hungry Seagull]

Scored a bunch off Cabelas already online this weekend, however Lugar 9mm gold dots I believe are already out of stock on some grains.

[Knightrider03m]

I can find a lot of range rounds but it took me about 2 weeks to find personal defense rounds

[Javelin]

I am just not feeling the pinch I guess ;)

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[rbernie]

AmmunitionToGo has been maintaining a decent stock of stuff. In fact, yesterday The Big Brown Truck dropped off 500rds of Aquila 230gr RN from ATG. They're showing out of stock at the moment, but they turn over stuff pretty quickly.

Just keep checking back.

People are STILL HOARDINGI don't think so. My local ranges have been JAMMED with customers in long waiting lines to get a lane, from opening to closing every day since November.

The folks that bought during the winter months are shooting what they bought. And that's not a bad thing.

[Knightrider03m]

AmmunitionToGo has been maintaining a decent stock of stuff. In fact, yesterday The Big Brown Truck dropped off 500rds of Aquila 230gr RN from ATG. They're showing out of stock at the moment, but they turn over stuff pretty quickly.

Just keep checking back.

Quote:
People are STILL HOARDING
I don't think so. My local ranges have been JAMMED with customers in long waiting lines to get a lane, from opening to closing every day since November.

The folks that bought during the winter months are shooting what they bought. And that's not a bad thing.

The range that I took my CCW class at was on jam with folks waiting. I'm glad that I can shoot at my house.

[jbarb1]

I was in a Wal Mart in Fort Worth TX yesterday and they had no handgun ammo. There was some long gun ammo but a sign stated that you could only buy 2 boxes.

On Friday I was at a shooting range and they said that they did not know when they would have additional handguns for sale. However they did have a full supply currently for sale.

[Dan Crocker]

This is news?

[Redhawk1]

CCI told my gunsmith they were 9 million primers behind on orders.

Not only are primer going to ammo makes but the local public. So I am sure other primers makes are having the same problem.

With people stocking up on ammo, it also effects the primers available to reloaders.

[ilbob]

Yeah, I was talking to the guy behind the counter and Wal-Mart and he said both his WM and the other down the road sold 5500 rounds of 22 in just a couple of hours.
Thats only ten bulk packs. Does not sound like a lot to me.

[STARR15]

I can't find 7.62 x 39 unless I buy corrosive case of 1260 rounds for $420.00 w/Tax. I know about $16.99 for a box of 20 Remington UMC 7.62x39 at Dick's. None at BassPro. About the so called ammo shortage. I LOT OF PEOPLE are newbies in CCW classes. Full classes all the time. I welcome them to our family of 2nd Ammenment rights. I hope we don't get too trigger happy when the SHTF. I believe it will if Obama can have a paramilitary for himself. Watch,Listen,Learn. If half of America knows we're in trouble. They are taking precautions to stock up. Even the Boy Scouts said to be prepared.

[Silverado6x6]

I am curious as to how much capitol it would require to start a small business making components, be it one or several components like brass cases.

America has historically risen to the needs of the many in troubled times.

[outerlimit]

I wonder how this continued panic buying will affect the quality of the ammo being produced now.

[Mainer2009]

I've noticed for a while now that midway has been out of stock on a lot of ammuntion...most of it, and a lot of it says "no back order". I ordered a box of Buffalo Bore 126 grain JHP's for my 357 from my gun shop about a month ago and not a word yet....I gotta start reloading. And besides ammo being sold out everywhere, the stuff thats available is costing more...I bought a box of 20 Corbon 44 mag's (260 grain BCHP's) last month for $44 &change...yikes.

[remotegun]

Around here in Kentucky there seems to be plenty of ammo! ;)

[STARR15]

Kentucky has ammo. Well thou art a braggart. You and your Long rifles. LOL.

[Marlin 45 carbine]

there is some 9mm becomeing available around here but .380acp and .38 -.357 is in short supply. seems to be a good deal of .40 and .44 availbel but .45acp is short.

[Taurus_9mm]

I'm still finding it out there but in much smaller quantities and at much higher prices (obviously).

www.taurusarmed.net

[SharpsDressedMan]

Just got a call to pick up some primers from a local resource. I had placed the order 2-3 weeks ago. They just happened to get in the exact brand that I had requested, and it was my place on the back order. Ordered a full case of SP, LP, LR, SR, and got all but the SR. So, call that 15,000 of assorted. Mostly they went to a friend & his brothers who didn't have as many as they would have liked, but I kept 1M of LP and SP to augment my stash. This was in NE Ohio.

[outerlimit]

I've noticed the ammo supply has loosened up a bit in the past week or so. Maybe all the idiots have run out of money. ;)

[searcher451]

I was surprised yesterday when I breezed through the local WallyWorld on the way to get some odds and ends and saw two boxes of 100-round 9mm Winchester WB just calling out my name on the ammo shelf.

There was no .380 ACP, .38 Special, .32 ACP, or much of anything else (well, they did have two boxes of .25 ACP), but the 9mm was a welcome sight, indeed.

I don't think it's an indication of things loosening up here. I just think that it was a matter of luck and god timing. In the past three months, I've stumbled on 5 boxes of 9mm now; during that time, I haven't seen any .380.

[JB Books]

I mised a box of 100 .380 by 10 minutes at a local wally world:cuss::fire:

[Mainer2009]

A couple days a go, I called the gun shop up, and asked to order 2 boxes of magtech 357 mag 158 grain SWC ammo....he said he'd put them on order for me, but it would probley take a while, &that he'd been having a hard time getting any magtech ammo at all. I've also had a box of buffalo bore 357 mag 125 gr JHP's on order for a couple months--I really need to learn how to handload.

[The_Seventh_Sign]

the shortage is also extended to primers & powder as well.

TSS

[kmrcstintn]

I live in a small town in Northwest Georgia.

I used to live in East Ridge, TN just over the border from the Ft. Oglthorpe, GA & Ringgold, GA area; if this is your area, then a trip into Tennessee might prove fruitful to ya; there's a shop on the north side of the Tennessee River called Darr's Shooting Supply that always had a decent supply; there's a few more around there, but I can't remember the names/locations; Darr's sticks out since I used to stop there to resupply before heading out to the public range in Prentice Cooper state forest; I do recall 2 shops on the north side that have indoor ranges...hope this helps

BTW: southcentral PA has been hit very hard with the Obama crunch; one bigger shop stopped wholesale orders to other dealers and another has put a 3 box limit on ammo purchases; Gander Mountain, Bass Pro Shop, WalMart, Dick's are pretty much barren or keep knocking prices up on old stock that doesn't move anyway

[sawhitt]

Dunn's Sporting Goods Paducah, KY

Whittaker Guns West Louisville, KY (No. West Louisville is NOT part of Louisville. It's 100 miles west.)

Uncle Lee's Greenville, KY.

All have reasonable quantities and are willing to ship.

Bought Federal .22LR 40gr for $13.00 a brick within the last couple weeks.

Now I'm gonna go shoot it all up before I unload my last couple of .22 rifles.

[Redneck with a 40]

Our local UPS driver informed us on Friday, that the ammo shipments have really dropped off in the last week, maybe the jerks are finally running out of money. Hopefully this trend continues.

[desire4one]

I'm desperate for .380's. A month ago it wasn't a problem, now all the sudden, I get laughed at when I ask about them. A kid that works for me sold me 100 FMJ's and 50 HP for $25 since he didn't have a .380 anymore. I wanted to hug him. At least I have a 40sw, you can at least FIND them, although the prices are going up. I don't know exactly what's going on, but I hope everyone calms down soon.

[ScareyH22A]

The only reason that I'm not picking up a new .45 is because I can't find ammo. :(

[punkndisorderly]

Ammo is pretty much hit or miss down here south of Houston. It's out there, but either a) you have to luck into hitting one of the big box stores right after they stock the shelves after getting a shipment or b) you have to hit one of the gun shops that has jacked up their prices to the point people aren't buying more than a box or two at a time just to have something to shoot.


I've taken to backordering online and just waiting my turn. I don't let my stock go down past a month's supply and haven't run out yet.

[SigSauerIsBetter]

I am in Northern Virginia, just outside of DC (Obama's new home) and we don't seem to be low in supply. I wonder if this is a regional thing? I noticed an increase in price, but that was around the time that the war started.

[Anna's Dad]

I just stop by Wal-Mart whenever I pass one. Of about 5-6 stops over the last month or so, I found 45 ACP three times and 9mm twice (4 boxes one trip and only 2 boxes the second).

Nice thing is that they haven't yet raised their prices so when it is available its still reasonable.

[Nise]

Now that spring is finally hitting us here in the Big sky country the gopher hunters are coming out and..... going back in, :confused: I was at several shops on the weekend and young guys come in looking for 22lr ammo and were told like most other places, "sorry, we are temporarily out". The places that have 22lr are getting around $30-$35 a brick for no frills Win. A local Walmart 'associate' told me to call in every morning by 7:30 and see what they had in stock, (gets stocked at night and they showed up 7:00), he then told me if they had what I wanted get in there by 8:00 cause everything would be gone not long after.

I know that the 5%-10% or so of average shooters were/ are hording. Probably 30% of average joe shooters are starting to see what's going on getting freaked. But still the majority of weekend warriors don't have a clue. Heard today that Hornady is having difficulty getting components and materials, lead copper/ brass/ primers.

Just some food for thought, (evil conspiracist that I am). Heard Sec. State hill. say that mejico's illicit gun problem is made up of 90% american weapons. also heard the atf correct that to say 7%. (sounds like 90% of traceable's are american, probably having legal owners here wanting their stolen pieces back!) Bho again just said last week that 90% were american? :confused: It sounds to me like they all want to pass legislation/ laws but know they couldn't get it through congress, at least now. I watch for osha, epa, and pre-existing treaties to put the crunch on like nothing we've ever seen yet. Osha tried declaring powder in the same category as tnt, but our us Rep caught that and squeeled on em and they rescinded it and pouted. epa and forest service have been wailing about lead contamination. and the treaty to which i speak of is the NNPT SA/LW. (nuc. non-prolif treaty and small arms/ light weapons.) the only one that concerns me is the SA- the rest is class 3 or govt. small arms defined therein are pistols/ revolvers, shotguns, rifles, etc. Willy amped up the treaty, george jr amped it up some more, now the money we're giving to the un has nearly doubled from last year. primary purpose is buying up military munitions and weapons that would regularly be sold after the conflict to other warring nations or unsafe organizations. I believe, (memory serving me, (sometimes)) in '07 we gave the un 27mill to buy up munitions, some of which would have come here, legally, and would be the mil-surp stuff we all love/hate so much but was dumped/ destroyed. The budget has almost doubled now and with the careless words by bho and entourage I anticipate a possible use of the treaty here. listen to his vernacular and compare to the documents, his words are carefully chosen. Just a what if right now, as far as i can tell, but it's definately on a few of their minds.

But alas, no matter. Live each day as it were your last, Love life, help your neighbor, and be courteous of others, (and let me have a box once in awhile, :) )

[phoglund]

I actually found some .22 ammo while in a local gunshop this weekend picking up a Cav Arms lower I'd ordered on a group buy. They had a just opened box with bulk packed .22 inside and I pulled a box out on my way to the checkout. $23 for 525 rounds Remington "Golden Bullet". The checkout lady said the owner had driven to the West coast to pick the load up. I've not seen any other in town all spring.

I could have bought more I guess but I already have a couple of thousand rounds purchased over the years. I feel a bit sorry for those folks that just want to shoot some spring gophers (ground squirrels) and can't find ammo. I switched over to .17HMR for that task a couple of years ago.

That same shop had some 9mm, .45 ACP, and .40 a couple of weeks ago. I imagine supplies will catch up sometime this year and we can all start buying as we need it again...hopefully. :uhoh:

[Ben86]

"The only reason I'm not picking up a new .45 is because I can't find ammo."

Me TOO! What's the point? I might as well save my money and buy it when I can actually enjoy it. Do you realize this is the most effective gun control that has ever happened? And its our own fault!

Man this shortage is getting out of hand! If you know any ammo horders please, please get them to calm down and stop being so greedy.

Last week I could have cleaned the shelve at my local Walmart of wwb 9mm fmj, but instead I bought 2 boxes and let others have the rest. That is the kind of restraint that will end this insanity.

[.357MagTaurus]

I can almost always leave with some ammo when I visit the local outdoor supply store. They must have some great connections with Ammo manufacturers. I am usually buying 38 spl or .357 Magnum, even 22lr. The shelves look full most of the time. Some prices are lower than Wal-Mart. I buy it when I see it, so I'll have it when I need it.

[metallic]

I can almost always leave with some ammo when I visit the local outdoor supply store. They must have some great connections with Ammo manufacturers. I am usually buying 38 spl or .357 Magnum, even 22lr. The shelves look full most of the time. Some prices are lower than Wal-Mart. I buy it when I see it, so I'll have it when I need it.

The last time I looked, even Bass Pro Shop was empty. Wal-Mart, I've given up on finding ammo there. The best luck I've had was with Academy Sports, but the last time I was there all they had was Monarch. Not bad ammo, but I did notice some significant bullet setback this week in one of the leftover rounds. Scary.

[outerlimit]

Was at the north walmart this morning looking for a torque wrench (I know, stupid). Still no handgun ammo. Plenty of rifle. Even a couple boxes of .223 and 7.62.x39 surprisingly. Lots of shotgun and .22lr.

[outerlimit]

All this Winchester Whitebox that's missing from Walmarts is ending up on Gunbroker.

I guess some people have seen a business opportunity.

I noticed the ammo doesn't seem to be going for quite what it did the other day, because there is so much of everything listed on there now.

[rogertc1]

maquoketa, Ia Walmart has everything...

[skeeter_08]

The ammo shortage is for real just about everywhere. I can still get 9mm and .45acp at the local indoor range I shoot at but there is a 2 box limit per caliber. These are usually AEs or Speer Lawmen, both good stuff, so I'm not forced to shoot garbage like Wolf (yet). I was at another local gunstore on Saturday, and the only .45acp ball ammo they had was some Aguila, and judging by the condition of the boxes, this stuff looked like it had be sitting around for about 10 years. I bought all they had, and the box that I shot was fine.

I have an open raincheck from Dick's for a case of .45acp UMCs, they are a PITA to deal with on ammo, but I'm buying just about all the factory ammo I can lay my hands on - skeeter_08

[aderden]

birmingham area walmarts are low. the one near me is wiped out of handgun ammo (save for one box of .40) but are still good sources of rifle and shotshell. guess i'm gonna have to start makin some longer trips.....

[lawboy]

People here are talking about 500 to 1000 rounds of 9mm like that is stocking up. Makes me scratch my head. I go through 1000 rounds of 45ACP in 2-3 weeks if I am sipping it. Not unusual to shoot 400-500 rounds at a time. I often shoot that 2-3 times a week.
Folks, you gotta reload, cast bullets, and absolutely horde the primers and powder! If you want to shoot firearms as a mainline hobby, you have to make the necessary commitment to the sport. If you just want to stock up so you are ready to fight the gov't, all you really need is a magazine full because after you open the hostilities with a burst, your life expectancy will not be long enough to use up all that ammo in the basement.

[outerlimit]

Wow, that's a lot of shooting lawboy. I think I'll shoot more once I finally get a decent reloading setup going.

To the people who are still stocking up, (for what reason?) all I can say is, don't pay $50 for a box of 100rd .45acp WWB if you want the prices to come down. The $29 that Walmart charges is ridiculous enough. I used to pay $10 for this stuff back in 2004-2005.

[outerlimit]

birmingham area walmarts are low. the one near me is wiped out of handgun ammo (save for one box of .40) but are still good sources of rifle and shotshell. guess i'm gonna have to start makin some longer trips.....

Yea, I've never seen anyplace short of shotgun or rifle ammo. And .40S&W or .357Sig always seems to be the last handgun boxes to go.

[lawboy]

folks calling for others to stop buying ammo so they can have some crack me up. They sound like the tree huggers and eco terrorists trying to make everyone live their lifestyle for their reasons. This is the US of A, right? Bigger, stronger, faster, more, right? Well, stop crying and go find yourself some ammo and when you do, buy all you can afford. If you cannot afford it, then get a new hobby or get a knife or some other weapon. But telling others to stop getting their fill so you can have some? unAmerican, in my opinion. And I say it with love for all. :)

[Redhawk1]

http://gunowners.org/a042109.htm

[skers69]

Well Kansas City is now almost out of 9mm ammo. Walmart, Dicks, Sports Authorty, Cabelas, Bass Pro, my local pawn shop that always has 9mm ammo.

I have gotten into realoads but now I am having trouble finding primers and bullets. I did find some CorBon for 22 per 20 124 grain plus p. I bought all 8 boxes that I could afford.

From now on I will purchase my HD/SD rounds and cut back on my plinking. I THOUGHT 9mm was one of the most common rounds in the world. Well maybe, but not in Kansas City.

[Husaberg Man]

Prices need to go way UP. I'm not rich, but I have more money than time. I don't need or want cases of ammo...just a small supply equal to one or two trips to the range.

[JohnBT]

"And I say it with love for all."

You sure don't believe in sharing when times are tough, do you? Nice guy, aren't you.

John

[David E]

You sure don't believe in sharing when times are tough, do you? Nice guy, aren't you.

John, what do you expect ?

Let's say we lived in the same town and I go to Wal-mart multiple times a week, sometimes more than once the same day specifically to see if they have ammo. But I keep missing out and my personal stock is very low. But on my 27th trip I finally get lucky and catch them as they're stocking the shelves. But you'd expect me to NOT buy all I could afford, just in case you come bopping by because your wife dragged to the the store with her for the first time in 5 weeks?

If Wal-mart wants to limit me to 2-4 boxes, then fine, but don't expect me to leave any ammo for you because you might come in and want some.

That said, I'm surprised this ammo shortage has lasted so long in so many parts of the country.

.

[rbernie]

There is no further profit in this thread. As folk find ammo - start a new thread here and post the details (where, how much, what kinds) for others to benefit.

Otherwise - we need to quit the endless bellyaching. It accomplishes nothing.