crimp removal?
moooose102
January 31, 2009, 09:25 AM
so, i have roughly 60 or so cases that have a crimp in them. i am sure i will end up with more. so, how do i remove the crimp? i looked on midway, and the only thing they have is for the rcbs line wich goes onto another one of their products (which i do not have). i tried just chamfering the hole a little with my rcbs "cutter" chamfering tool, but either i did not do it enough, or i need a different tool.
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evan price
January 31, 2009, 09:36 AM
RCBS primer pocket swage set. Works great. About $30 or so.
Remo-99
January 31, 2009, 09:57 AM
My experience with chamfer cutters is,
I have to take out more metal than I'm comfortable with, (that provides support for the primer base edges), for primers to seat without problems.
As taking a little more metal then 'just' to remove the crimp, without going too far overboard with it.
Is what seems to work out for me.
But a swager is prolly a better option, if you can find something you can use with current your equipment.
mkl
January 31, 2009, 11:36 AM
The tech guy at Sinclair International said he used a case mouth chamfer tool when I asked that question.
rcmodel
January 31, 2009, 11:40 AM
Years ago, before I had any tools or money to buy them with, I reamed GI primer pockets with the pointy blade of my Case pocket knife.
Just get a bur started and rotate the case with your left hand while the sharp blade cuts it flush with the primer pocket.
Not fast, but effective!
rc
carbine85
January 31, 2009, 12:22 PM
I use the RCBS case prep station. After I ream it I use the pocket uniforming tool. You do it once you don't have to do it again.
I found the RCBS swagging tool to be a pain in the ass and slow. I had too many crashed primers so I moved up to the prep station.
ranger335v
January 31, 2009, 12:28 PM
RC and I use to load at different places together! I started with a knife too, but bought an inexpensive and simple to use Lyman Primer Pocket Reamer as soon as I could. 40+ years later, I still use it effectively. And they still make it, I think. (Take it out of the factory handle and chuck it in a varible/low speed drill or a cordless screwdriver for maximum easy!)
In my opinon, Dillion's pocket swager is a bit better in operation than the RCBS design but either tool will do most folks a good job if you want to go that route for removing GI primer crimps.
jjohnson
January 31, 2009, 07:15 PM
Yeah, well, I figured I'd give it a try on some milsurp 30-06, and somebody gave me the very cheapest Lee loader - the one made out of a very cheap aluminum alloy - and I broke the press after half a dozen cases.:cuss: Of COURSE I put all my weight on it, but damn, the WWII milsurp ammo was made far too well in my opinion - almost as effective for my reloading purposes as berdan primed brass :fire:
From what I've read, the RCBS tool is one of those polarizers - soem people think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, others hate them like sin.
Um... I'm in the camp#2 right now:scrutiny: I'm tempted to buy the Dillon swage ram, but it's way too expensive for my budget. I could afford to throw away a lot of milsurp brass for the price of that tool. One of you guys want to rent me your Dillon?
Walkalong
January 31, 2009, 07:26 PM
I have the RCBS swage tool, and it works. Slow, but it works. I bought it used at a gun show many years ago. A quick twist of a chamfer tool works too. I just did a couple hundred 5.7 X 28 cases that way. Just a light twist. I'll break down and get the Dillon tool one day.
ds/ks
January 31, 2009, 08:12 PM
I use chamfer tool also.
onebigelf
January 31, 2009, 08:38 PM
CH Tools
About $20
John
snuffy
January 31, 2009, 09:45 PM
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=617234
Get this tool to cut the crimp out of those cases. Use it in a drill chuck or get a handle like this.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=809432
I too tried the RCBS swager on .223 GI brass. It didn't swage enough of the crimp, the button is just too small. So I got the Hornady cutter, done deal, primes like non-crimped factory stuff.
Uncle Chan
January 31, 2009, 09:53 PM
I splurged and bought a Dillon 600 Super Swager. Cost $100.00, but for the thousands I swage a year, it was worth every penny.
Sport45
January 31, 2009, 09:57 PM
I use the same reamer that snuffy linked above. Works great.
lgbloader
January 31, 2009, 10:04 PM
I need to get that Dillon Swager too.
I have the RCBS swager and it works but ...
LGB
280shooter
February 1, 2009, 11:47 PM
i use a drill bit in my drill and GO SLowwwww,,just enough to make a slight bevel.works great,
moooose102
February 4, 2009, 07:39 AM
snuffy, i like that hornady tool. thanx. i selected to have them notify me when they get it. looks easy to use, and priced right.
71Commander
February 4, 2009, 08:23 AM
I bought the Dillon. I could never use anything else again.:)
Kevwyo
February 22, 2009, 09:36 PM
I use a counter sink bit in my drill as well. Just enough to get a slight bevel is all it takes.
Mt Shooter
February 22, 2009, 09:41 PM
I use a counter sink bit in my drill as well. Just enough to get a slight bevel is all it takes.
Yup, and it only costs about 5 bucks at the hardware store.
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