Imus packing while on the air?


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Browns Fan
September 30, 2003, 08:13 AM
I was just whatching Imus in the morning and just right before a comercial break, Imus gets up out of his chair and you could see a black semi auto on his hip. Is this something well known, or did I just catch a blooper?

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Devonai
September 30, 2003, 08:30 AM
Imus (which is latin for "lowest," btw) talks about the fact that he has a CCW and carries all the time. It is no suprise to me except for the fact that he would carry in front of the cameras. I have always suspected that his overall views on the matter are elitist.

RTFM
September 30, 2003, 08:49 AM
You usually catch him talking about a stainless S&W in his brief case. Model unknown. But he has talked about for years. The evil black gun is a new one.

Ever read his book god's other son?

RTFM

Pappy John
September 30, 2003, 10:06 AM
Yes, he gets to carry......in NYC yet. But he couldn't give a rat's patoot about your right to carry. Considers himself one of the elite. Doesn't think riff-raff like you and me should be allowed.

Dean Speir
September 30, 2003, 10:21 AM
 

…but a dreadful (and dangerous) "model" for CCW.

He is one of the NYC elite with a "full carry," and his S&W 640-1 is frequently on view in his attaché case.

The "evil black gun" is in all likelihood one of those S&W/Walther Models 99 that his blowhard/motor-mouth buddy "Bo" Dietl (former NYPD MOS) recommended to him… Dietl appears to carry one of those as well, strong-side appendix.

Imus flies a chartered jet around the country, and there have been frequent on-air references to how much he likes to the ability to carry while flying. And from time to time the careful listener/viewer can discern cross-talk from his cohosts Charles and Bernie about being "trapped on an airplane with the I-Man waving a gun around."

He seems to be so irresponsible in his gun-handling, that it's probably just a matter of time before he jerks off and has a high-profile ND, and we all will suffer from the ripple-effect.

 

Pumpkinheaver
September 30, 2003, 04:06 PM
I heard that Howard Stern also had a license is this true do you know?

keederdag
September 30, 2003, 04:12 PM
Yea, I heard that too, I think all these Yo-Yo's have em. Too bad where they live only the powerful, rich, and elite have gun's legally. Kinda like Midevil Europe Huh?:cuss:

Black Snowman
September 30, 2003, 04:23 PM
Or ancient Rome, or Europe in general, in most periods, or east Asia in most periods.

ed dixon
October 1, 2003, 12:37 AM
A mumbling, witless crank who thinks calling somebody "weasel" while his lackeys fake laughter is cutting edge. A middle-aged man referring to a senior citizen as "I-man." The most inexplicable success since Rupert Pupkin.

TheeBadOne
October 1, 2003, 03:15 AM
Anyone know how he got one? Death threats? :confused:

Orthonym
October 1, 2003, 07:40 AM
A lot of it might be just, well, acting annoying because it's expected in that town. Then again, maybe he didn't give up the juice and the happy dust quite soon enough.

Binkster
October 1, 2003, 10:11 AM
The black gun that he carries is a Glock 23. He talks about it a lot and seems to be very fond of it. He is very vocal about his thoughts on consealed carry. He feels that everyone who owns a firearm must be licensed. That would be fine if it were possible for the common person to get a permit in New York City. That is why I will not go into NJ or NY anymore. If they want my money or business, then they are going treat me like a responsible citizen. I am going to the FL Keys instead of going to the NJ shore. And yes, that is what I told Gov. McCrazy in a letter. I had enough of NJ after he signed that smart gun law. You could not pay me enough to live in NY City or NJ. Sorry for the rant. So many issues, so little time.

Ukraine Train
October 1, 2003, 10:20 AM
What are the stipulations to get a carry permit in NYC?

IrvJr
October 1, 2003, 11:39 AM
Yeah, it's interesting that a fellow like Don Imus (with his problems with alcohol abuse and such) can easily get a full carry permit in NYC.

In NY State, it's not too difficult to get a permit for a handgun as long as you have a clean record. However, depending on where you live in the state, it is difficult to get full carry permission. New York's counties have the ability to put restrictions (e.g., "Limited to Target & Hunting") on their permits. All handguns must be registered/listed on your permit.

In NYC it's even harder to get a permit, but still do-able from what I've heard (I don't live in the city). In NYC you need a permit for a handgun and a different permit for a long gun. The restricitions on their use are pretty severe (I don't think you can carry concealed like you can in the rest of the state, even if you're going to or from the range).

Getting full carry permission in NYC is next to impossible. According to the law, you need the permission of the chief of police (or something like that). I believe the list of people with permits is available to the public. Every year one of the local newspapers (I believe the NY Post) publishes the lists of celebrity New Yorkers who have carry permits, and the list of those who were rejected. Many famous New Yorkers/celebrities (Robert Deniro, Howard Stern, Billy Joel, Don Imus, Sylvester Stallone used to - don't know if he still does, even Andrew Cuomo, who was head of HUD when S&W signed the infamous agreement and is aggressively anti-gun) have carry permits. Many celebrities (Joan Rivers was one of the names they mentioned on the radio that I remembered) were rejected. You typically have to demonstrate some kind of "legitimate need" to carry a gun.

Anyway, it's all pretty hypocritical since a lot of the folks with these permits have history of alcohol and illicit drug abuse problems (Billy Joel and Don Imus) but they seem to get their permits no problem. A history of alcohol or drug abuse is sufficient grounds for your permit application to get rejected normally.

Actually, I think a lot of the celebrities are relatively pro gun (Billy Joel was interviewed on TV after George Harrison was stabbed and he sounded pretty pro gun according to my wife who saw the interview) but they keep it to themselves.

On the bright side, however, at least in NYC you can get a full carry permit and you can own guns. It's at least a little better than places like Chicago.

If you're a law-abiding, but regular joe/jane citizen, it's pretty difficult to get full carry permissions in the state unless you know someone. From what I've heard, it's practically impossible to get one in NY City.

For a while, the new sheriff in our county was issuing un-restricted permits to everyone, but unfortunately, one of the judges who signed the permits stopped him. Practically everyone I know who has a permit in our county (except for the old timers) have restrictions. Even the guys who work in gunshops have restrictions ("Place of Business/Hunting/Target"). It stinks, but it's actually at least better than NJ (where I grew up).

I've read that technically, if you're caught carrying when your not hunting or target shooting, the state cannot jail you (I think there was some NY state supreme court decision that established a precedent), but it can be grounds for having your permit revoked. I read something to that effect in some NY state gun laws book (which both gunowners and government officials/LEO's use in the state as a reference).

Dean Speir
October 1, 2003, 12:30 PM
 

…it's interesting that a fellow like Don Imus (with his problems with alcohol abuse and such) can easily get a full carry permit in NYC. Yes, but the alcohol and cocaine and heroin problems of Imus, Joel, etc., were considered "medical" rather than criminal, and they are therefore not accorded Prohibited Person status. In NY State, it's not too difficult to get a permit for a handgun as long as you have a clean record. However, depending on where you live in the state, it is difficult to get full carry permission. New York's counties have the ability to put restrictions (e.g., "Limited to Target & Hunting") on their permits. All handguns must be registered/listed on your permit. A minor (and ironic) quibble… in NYS (which laws also apply to NYC although one would hardly know it), it's a License (as it states on the document) since the "permission" is deemed to be incorporated in the law, §400. In NYC you need a permit for a handgun and a different permit for a long gun. The long gun document is in fact a "Permit" issued by the Firearms Control Board… the creation of which was rightfully controversal (http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-12.html#nyc), since it was b-a-a-a-dly abused a dozen years ago by Mayor Dinkins and his Police Commissioner, Lee Brown, the current Mayor of Houston! (And to think that 35 years ago I used to argue with those who insisted that "Registration = Confiscation," stating that this was America of the latter 20th Century, not Norway of 1940!)Actually, I think a lot of the celebrities are relatively pro gun… Never forget, however, that Stallone, with his personalized Colt's Officer's ACP, gave the BBC an interview several years ago in which he stated that no one should be allowed handguns and that "they should go door-to-door taking them away from people." I've read that technically, if you're caught carrying when your not hunting or target shooting, the state cannot jail you (I think there was some NY state supreme court decision that established a precedent), but it can be grounds for having your permit revoked. This was a rather famous case, THE PEOPLE v. FRANK THOMPSON (http://www.law.cornell.edu/ny/ctap/I98_0139.htm), litigated by a short, rotund Lesbian named Susan Courtney Chambers who liked to call herself "Fang" (but now prefers "John" since she seems to have undergone "gender-reassignment"). Essentially that decision by the NYS Court of Appeals means that as long as one has a license (meaning that the handguns are in the "system") of any sort such as a "Premises License," if one is caught off the specified premises with the handgun(s), it's not a criminal offense. This does not mean that the possessor won't be subject to administrative sanctions for violations of one's "Conditions of Carry." In all likelihood, the person will lose their License (or at the very least have it suspended), but they will not go to jail.

New York State's handgun regulations are not as awful as many make them out to be, but they are erratically administered and routinely abused by anti-gun officials, judges upstate and unelected Police Commissioners in NYC, Nassau and western Suffolk Counties.

 

gypsy3
October 1, 2003, 11:47 PM
If he has a CCW, he just recently got it...I remember about a year or so back that he first Flashed his gun...The person across from him ask him if he carried a gun...Imus said "Well...hell yes I do" then lifted up his shirt..
When asked if he had a permit he said "Hell NO"...
The gun he flashed was a revolver...Of course he could have just been blowing and really did in fact have a ccw permit.....who knows..
I really just can't warm up to him or his show..He just moves too slow..

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