Minnesota gun laws


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.cheese.
February 2, 2009, 02:29 PM
I know nothing about Minnesota other than its residents are often human popsicles.

Just out of curiosity, how are the gun laws there? Any specific laws in Minneapolis or St. Paul?

State level AWB? Open carry? etc. etc.

Indulge my curiosity please.

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X-Rap
February 2, 2009, 02:53 PM
Check out the NRA web site they have a good data base of state laws.

.cheese.
February 2, 2009, 03:02 PM
I just read the PDF from the NRA-ILA. Unfortunately, it's dated 2005.

Anything newer?

X-Rap
February 2, 2009, 03:14 PM
Other than searching the state code I don't know of any single database that holds that info.
My uncle lives there and through him I am not aware of any major legislation since the RTC came to be.
AW and highcaps are allowed, Open carry might be OK but I think it requires a permit and for sure if non res. Quite a few states are reciprical though not Co.:mad:

.cheese.
February 2, 2009, 04:28 PM
It's cool. Maybe some members here live there and could chime in. The PDF detailing the laws as of 2005 seemed not bad.

No NFA with maybe the exception of suppressors, but other than that it seemed ok.

.cheese.
February 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
I have found online articles about Minnesota in the past trying to pass their own AWB, and I found a site online that seems to be dedicated to pushing that forward.

jfh
February 2, 2009, 06:51 PM
1. To purchase a hand gun and / or an EBR you need a FID if purchasing from an FFL.

2. If you have a carry permit, you need no FID, and transactions are instantaneous.

3. IIRC, no restrictions on FTF transfers, if otherwise legal.

4. There is statewide pre-emption, with limitations for gov't, etc.

5. Carry permit is good for 5 years, and is shall-issue.

6. You may open carry, but it is not generally done.

7. Posting may be done by businesses, but generally these signs have disappeared except for those businesses still wishing to make an ideological statement.

8. There may still be some "friction" about CC and hunting laws--but I think these may have been sorted out.

The state follows the typical political stereotypes--e.g., the "Metro Area" are the hotbeds of liberalism, as are most "College Towns," but not all (outstate) Democrats are gun-grabbers. There will be a new set of gun-grabber laws introduced, in accordance with the national hysteria, but I have heard of none that are particularly going anywhere. The humungous debate we had prior to passage (and re-passage) of our new shall-carry law seems to have de-fanged the blood-in-the-streets crowd.

FWIW, I carry daily, and have no issues other than the fact that the medical services I go to are posted--but, I noted that the last time I went, they may not be.

Twincitiescarry.com is a good forum for state firearms issues overall.

Jim H.

.cheese.
February 2, 2009, 06:55 PM
So you only need an FID for purchase, not if bringing guns already owned with you upon a move to Minn?

jfh
February 2, 2009, 07:03 PM
.cheese, I think you are correct re needing only the FID to purchase--but, in all honesty, I am a bit rusty.

That 2005 synopsis you referenced earlier should be current, AFAICT--we've had no major legislation passed in several years; about the only tweak going on is this hunting laws / carry laws subject--and I think that got sorted out last year.

Several of us do follow the yearly bill introductions. Right now, they are the typical ones. Note that MN is trending left again, from the typical left-center. If we get a Democrat governor in another two years, all bets are off.

Jim H.

PO2Hammer
February 2, 2009, 07:20 PM
Just to add that when you get a permit to purchase, they give you a little snippet of MN law that says something like 'a citizen has the right to carry firearms openly in the feilds and on the open waters of the state', or something like that.

It's kind of vague what they mean, but no one carries openly unless you are in the woods. I like to bum around on the Mississippi river islands near my home carrying openly.

Target shooting and open carry are not permitted in the many refuges.

Nothing other than a .22lr in the woods during deer season unless you are actively hunting.

PocketProtector642
February 2, 2009, 07:22 PM
"jfh" pretty much nailed it. A couple of things though. OC is semi-common. The bigger thing is that a posted business in MN only means... nothing. The law states:

MN624.714 (https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin/getpub.php?pubtype=STAT_CHAP&year=2006&section=624)
Subd. 17. Posting; trespass. (a) A person carrying a firearm on or about his or her person
or clothes under a permit or otherwise who remains at a private establishment knowing that the
operator of the establishment or its agent has made a reasonable request that firearms not be
brought into the establishment may be ordered to leave the premises. A person who fails to
leave when so requested is guilty of a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not
exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this subdivision
is not subject to forfeiture.

Short: you can be asked (by any owner posted or not) to leave. If you are dumb enough not to leave it costs $25.

PocketProtector642
February 2, 2009, 07:25 PM
Nothing other than a .22lr in the woods during deer season unless you are actively hunting.
If I'm not mistaken, I think this changed. Dont quote me but look into it.

thebaldguy
February 2, 2009, 10:03 PM
Human popsicles is pretty close. Especially in the winter.

One interesting law is that you cannot have a firearm stored in the car unless you are going to/from hunting or a range. You can't really legally have a trunk gun. But you can store your handgun in the trunk if you have a CCW permit.

Here's another Minnesota firearm related site.

http://www.mnguntalk.com/

bensdad
February 2, 2009, 10:14 PM
you cannot have a firearm stored in the car unless you are going to/from hunting or a range. You can't really legally have a trunk gun.

Really? where did you see this? I've never heard it before.

MN gun laws are fabulous. We have "permit to carry." There's nothing in there about "conceal". If you have a permit, you can leave your gun in the car anyplace. The signs banning carry have no legal weight. In fact, trespass laws are tougher on people who are not carrying. If asked to leave because you stink, the fine is bigger than if asked to leave because you are armed. Bottom line - MN-nice rules the day. My wife carries openly, and she's heard a couple of snide comments, but nothing too mean or out-loud.

jon_in_wv
February 2, 2009, 10:28 PM
I'm living in WV now and I am in ENVY of those of you back in the Home land. I'm a Minnesota born native and I can't WAIT to move back home. Minnesota was a bit slow on the CCW laws compared to some states and the Permit to buy licensing is a bit of a hassle but once that hurdle is passed its a pretty painless process.

BTW. Minnesota nice is so true, WV drives me out of my mind. When I get back to Minnesota they'll have to DRAG me out again.

phorvick
February 2, 2009, 10:34 PM
Permits are 5 years, not 4; can carry almost anywhere; no AWB; no mag capacity issues; C&R only for NFA etc.

shiftyer1
February 2, 2009, 10:41 PM
I lived in Minnesota for ? 21 or my 31 yrs and have never seen anyone open carry nor has any of my family. I have been gone for the last 10 years but go back frequently. All my friends and family is still there. Is the common open carry up north maybe?

bensdad
February 2, 2009, 10:57 PM
I wouldn't call oc common, but a good handful of folks do it... my lovely bride included. She can get by with it though. She's young and cute.

shiftyer1
February 2, 2009, 11:07 PM
Although from my experience Minnesotans are not as a rule suspicious so if your carrying a rocket launcher most folks would probably assume your supposed to be doing so. Yes thats a little far fetched but not to far from the truth. Probably not so in the bigger cities but i'm from a smallish town and remember walking through town in my early teens with a 12 ga during deer season and nobody looked twice. I was returning it after the hunt to it's owner.

Rmeju
February 3, 2009, 12:08 AM
MN has very good gun laws in many respects with the exception of NFA items. You can have Short-barrels and AOWs but not suppressors or MGs

MN has one of the best CCW laws in the entire nation

Carry permits are shall issue, require a 5 (?) hour training course that'll run you $100-$150, and are good for 5 years. Permit itself is up to $100. You're prohibited from carrying from few places, and can even carry in places that dispense alcohol. Instead, they control drunken carry by limiting your BAC to 0.04. Carry permits exempt you from the need for a permit to purchase, which otherwise takes 10 (?) days I think.

People & cops in the twin cities metro are less understanding than the rural areas about guns, but much moreso than in other urban areas I've been in (LA & Chicago) probably due to the fact that gun ownership isn't actively criminalized in this state.

I like the gun laws here. They aren't perfect, but light years ahead of IL, where I used to live.

Enjoy

akodo
February 3, 2009, 05:25 AM
MN gun situation.

We were in a situation where most CCW applications were just 'circular filed' by the big metro areas, other places it was 'did you contribute to my campaign' etc etc.

We pushed through a bill that made it a law that you either heard yes or no on your application by 30 days. If you hear nothing by 30 days it is an automatic yes. We also pushed through a law requiring records of how many people were rejected etc.

Using those accomplishments we went after 'shall issue' CCW which died in committee many times. We tagged it onto a DNR (department of natural resources) bill at one time when a DNR hunter safety certificate was to be good enough training. Training requirements were increased, and we got the bill passed.

The antis brought out some angle about the amendment on the DNR bill needed to pertain to the original bill to be constitutional. A judge agreed and the CCW was struck down.

We pushed through CCW again on it's own and got it passed.

You take a class and go through a background check to get your permit. Permit is good for 5 years, for concealed or open carry. However, in some areas the police will arrest you for 'disturbing the peace' if you carry open, or at least that is the threat.

You have to post a specific sign on your establishment to ban guns, AND you have to verbally tell the person to leave before it becomes a crime. On rented property, only the owner can post, hence there are a lot of illegal posts on office buildings and malls.

Lets see...what else...

We have in our CCW law a clause that says a business may not prohibit an employee with CCW from safely storing a legally owned/possessed weapon in his private automobile on company property.

Churches recently won a case where they desired to ban CCW without a sign posted worded the way most other places are required. Hence, now a church may ban CCW with a sign that says, for example, 'blessed are the peacemakers' or pretty much anything else. We could probably win with an argument along the lines of 'churches don't get to use freedom of religion to dictate their own wording on handicapped parking signs or fire exits' but truth be told, once the heavy lifting of getting good CCW passed, a lot less money and time and interest were directed toward defending minor fringe concerns.

No supressors, no machineguns unless they are C&R.

You need to get a 'permit to purchase' to buy a handgun or 'assault weapon', basically you get the standard NICS background check and they make you wait a week then you get a little peice of cardboard to carry around good for a year.

St Paul managed to push out a fair amount of gunshops by citing schools being close to them, even though gunstores where there first, and just launching lawsuit after lawsuit until the places closed. This is currently the tactic Minneapolis is using against the last gunstore hold-out, KOSCIELSKI'S GUNS & AMMO

.cheese.
February 3, 2009, 08:05 AM
St Paul managed to push out a fair amount of gunshops by citing schools being close to them, even though gunstores where there first, and just launching lawsuit after lawsuit until the places closed. This is currently the tactic Minneapolis is using against the last gunstore hold-out, KOSCIELSKI'S GUNS & AMMO

So in Minneapolist/St. Paul.... you can own guns... you just can't buy them?

jfh
February 3, 2009, 09:56 AM
"So in Minneapolist/St. Paul.... you can own guns... you just can't buy them?"

No, there's no "local" store to buy them in. Gun stores are in the suburbs--Bill's in Robbinsdale and the Frontiersman, to name two close in on the west side of Minneapolis.

MN has preemption, remember?

Jim H.

.cheese.
February 3, 2009, 10:41 AM
What I mean is that from what has been described, this tactic of building a school within X amount of distance from a gun store and then shutting down the gun store under the veil of a stupid statute seems like a bully tactic. What would stop a state from over time eventually making it legally impossible to have a gun store anywhere by just building a zillion schools and saying, "Hey, look we have an awesome education system here.... oh and by the way, you gun store owners, you have 30 days to close shop."

jfh
February 3, 2009, 10:52 AM
believe me, .cheese, Minneapolis and St. Paul are NOT building new schools--in fact, they're closing them in record numbers.

It is / was part of a targeted political strategy by the anti-gunners, and dates back some years.

The unfortunate part of this charade is that, because of the expense of operating in our major cities, the retailers were not typically competitive in price anyway.

There are no doubt gunnies in the Twin Cities proper--but the fact is, they are in the (political) minority.

Jim H.

ReadyontheRight
February 3, 2009, 12:42 PM
What I mean is that from what has been described, this tactic of building a school within X amount of distance from a gun store and then shutting down the gun store under the veil of a stupid statute seems like a bully tactic. What would stop a state from over time eventually making it legally impossible to have a gun store anywhere by just building a zillion schools and saying, "Hey, look we have an awesome education system here.... oh and by the way, you gun store owners, you have 30 days to close shop."

Watch out for a national version of this tactic over the next few years.

Great info above. I live in Minneapolis and I will just add that without a carry permit, the process to get a permit to purchase a handgun or "assault weapon":confused: in Minneapolis requires that you go downtown to the Hennepin County Government Center, fill out a form, pay a fee and wait 30 days for a card good for one year.

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/about/gun-permits.asp

Gun Permits
Permits to Carry Handguns
The Minnesota Personal Protection Act took effect May 28, 2003, and the City of Minneapolis no longer issues permits to carry handguns. The Hennepin County Sheriff's Office is now responsible for issuing all permits to carry to residents of Hennepin County. More information on the Minnesota Personal Protection Act (Conceal and Carry) may be obtained at the following Hennepin County and State of Minnesota websites:

Hennepin County Sheriff

State of Minnesota

Permits to Purchase Handguns:
Applicants for permits to purchase handguns must apply in person to the police department in the city in which they live and present a valid Minnesota driver's license or identification card with their current address. If there is no police department, they must apply to the sheriff's office in the county in which they reside. Minneapolis residents may apply for a permit to purchase (not carry) in Minneapolis City Hall, 350 South 5th Street, Room 1-A, Minneapolis, MN 55415. Public service hours are 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m., Monday through Friday.

Application forms may be obtained by following this link to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension Form (PDF).

Purchase:
Complete application. All areas of application must be filled in completely. Falsified applications will be reviewed for possible criminal prosecution.
You must be 18 years old to acquire or possess a handgun or military-style assault weapon. Federal law requires you to be 21 years old to acquire handguns from licensed dealers.
You must not have been convicted of a crime of violence. Definitions of crimes of violence can be found in MN Statue 624.712 subdivision 5. This portion does not apply if 10 years has lapsed since your sentence has expired.
You must not have been convicted of 5th degree assault as defined in MN Statue 609.224 subdivision 3, paragraph (b).
You must not have been convicted of domestic assault as defined in MN Statue 609.2242.
You must not have been court ordered committed to a treatment facility. This portion does not apply if documentation can be provided that you have completed treatment. (Peace Officer must be provide information pertaining to informal treatment programs attended).
You must not have been convicted of unlawful use, possession or sale of a controlled substance.
You must not have been convicted of a felony unless 10 years has lapsed since completion of your sentence.
You must not be a fugitive. Any type of warrant (petty parking) classifies you as a fugitive.
You must not be a user of a controlled substance. Controlled substances are defined in MN Statue 152.
You must be a US Citizen or Legal Alien.
You must not have been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces.
You must not be the subject of a restraining order.

Permit Background Check Inquiry
For additional information regarding permits to purchase, call the License Investigation Unit at (612) 673-3002 or e-mail us at police@ci.minneapolis.mn.us.


Overall, Minnesota is a fairly gun-friendly place.

Unfortunately, it's also a fairly criminal-friendly place. We attract quite a few folks who are willing to cheat (http://johnadamsblog.blogspot.com/2005/03/minnesota-ebt-card.html) our well-meaning welfare system (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/07/welfarecards/). $10M of which is spent out-of -state.

IMHO - Crime has gotten worse in downtown and uptown Minneapolis over the past few years, but has been pretty well covered up by politicians more interested in imposing new laws on the law-abiding (for example, it is now illegal to idle your car for more than 3 minutes in Minneapolis:rolleyes: and the city council recently lost a multi-year battle where they tried to stop a High School from building a football field on their own property) than cracking down on violent crime.

The loony left in my neighborhood confuse these crimes with gun ownership.

Minnesota DOES have a lot of gun-loving conservatives in the suburbs, a bunch of gun-loving communists on the Iron Range (yes, there really is a strong communist party up there) and a surprising number of middle-of-the-road gun-interested folks here in the middle of Liberal Lakes (the southwest side of Minnespolis).

Hope this helps!

JImbothefiveth
February 3, 2009, 05:52 PM
If you're thinking about moving there, you should probably reconsider. This was the only state to vote go blue in 1984, along with Washington D.C.. This probably means it's a high-crime state as well.

thebaldguy
February 4, 2009, 12:34 AM
I remember the "guns in the trunk only to/from hunting/range" from my MN DNR Hunting safety class 30+ years ago. They were to also be unloaded and cased, ammo stored separately from the firearm. Magazines were to be empty as well. Maybe it's changed.

Is it ignored? I'm sure it is. Note that in some parts of Minneapolis/St. Paul it's not a good idea to keep ANYTHING of value in your car.

I did recently read that Minneapolis is now one of the top 20 most dangerous cities in the US.

Our gun laws are really pretty reasonable compared to other Democrat voting states. Our neighbors to the east in Wisconsin still don't have CCW like Minnesota.

pkoch62
February 4, 2009, 02:04 AM
If you're thinking about moving there, you should probably reconsider. This was the only state to vote go blue in 1984, along with Washington D.C.. This probably means it's a high-crime state as well.
MN crime rates:
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/mncrime.htm
Washington DC crime rates:
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htm

I have no hard numbers to back this up, but even in Minneapolis I see three or four pro-gun/pro-carry bumper stickers for every one anti sticker. Yes, there are some here, but they thin out dramatically once you leave the Metro area.

USAFNoDAk
February 5, 2009, 06:15 PM
There is no fee in Ramsey county to get a permit to purchase. I thought the state law made this a "freebie". Maybe Hennepin County is breaking state law by charging a fee.

Also, I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it, but you don't need a permit to purchase a handgun or "military look alike semi automatic rifle". You can still purchase, but then you have to wait while the local law enforcement runs a background check on you which could take up to 10 days. Once they OK you, you can then go back to the dealer and complete the purchase. You would need to do that each and everytime you wanted to purchase a handgun or "MLASAR".

If you get a permit to purchase, you can use that for 1 year and then all you have to do is the NICS check at the dealer. If you pass that, you get the gun and carry it with you to your vehicle.

For long guns there is no permit to purchase or waiting period. You pass NICS, you're good to go.

Minnesota is the land of 10,000 looney liberals, but the gun laws aren't prohibitive. You can carry a handgun in the fields, woods, or on the waters of the state for purposes of hunting or target shooting. However, some of the public lands open for hunting ban "misc. target shooting". Otherwise, people would turn them into gun ranges, I suppose. I have carried openly without a permit while picking blueberries in some state forests up north. Bears can be an issue you know. That is pefectly legal. My dad has hunted squirrels while openly carrying a .22 pistol and no carry permit. That too is legal.

USAFNoDAk
February 5, 2009, 06:21 PM
By the way, the Brady Bunch ranked Minnesota as tied for 23rd best with respect to restrictive gun laws. We earned 11 points. California was number one with 79 points. North Dakota only got 4 points. Like Golf, it's good to get a very low score when you're dealing with the Brady Bunch of whackos.

jfh
February 6, 2009, 12:44 AM
USAFNoDak: You are correct about there being no required fee for the FID--but the issuing agency may charge up to $100.00 for the CHL.

As you might imagine, Hennepin charges that--and I believe Ramsey does, too. Others--Otter Tail, or Fergus Falls, come to mind--do not apparently charge that amount.

(edited to correct statement; see below)

Jim H.

PocketProtector642
February 6, 2009, 12:49 AM
USAFNoDak: You are correct about there being no required fee--but the issuing agency may charge up to $100.00.

As you might imagine, Hennepin charges that--and I believe Ramsey does, too. Others--Otter Tail, or Fergus Falls, come to mind--do not apparently charge that amount.

Jim H.
I think you are getting permit to purchase and permit to carry confused.
Purchase = $0
Carry = max $100

USAFNoDAk
February 6, 2009, 01:29 PM
jfh posted:USAFNoDak: You are correct about there being no required fee for the FID--but the issuing agency may charge up to $100.00 for the CHL.


As PocketProtector642 posted, the CHL permit can cost up to $100.00 but the Permit to Purchase is a freebie. Ramsey County doesn't charge for the PtoP but does charge $100.00 for the MPPA permit to carry. In addition, our liberal Ramsey Cnty sheriff issues a letter of protest with each MPPA permit, saying he is signing the permit under protest. I wish we'd get rid of him for just that issue alone. He is supposed to protect our freedoms, not protest them.

Dokkalfar
February 6, 2009, 04:15 PM
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What I mean is that from what has been described, this tactic of building a school within X amount of distance from a gun store and then shutting down the gun store under the veil of a stupid statute seems like a bully tactic. What would stop a state from over time eventually making it legally impossible to have a gun store anywhere by just building a zillion schools and saying, "Hey, look we have an awesome education system here.... oh and by the way, you gun store owners, you have 30 days to close shop."
Watch out for a national version of this tactic over the next few years.

Something like that happened to our city here in texas... there's a 'tri-city' police training center near my house, and they built a firing range as part of the center. Well, someone else set aside the land for a elementary school (after the range was under construction) within 1000 yards (or whatever the restriction is) of the range, then tried to get them to shut down the range so they could build the school. not sure what happened, but the range is still there and i havent seen the school getting built :D

theyre_all_bedpartners
February 20, 2009, 02:44 PM
Just thought people should know...

Traded a 30.06 Ruger for a Hi Point 995 carbine with a VA-FFL dealer, on GunBroker.com and called them (Coyote Creek) about doing the transfer. Told them it was a 995 and they said " $25 for transfer fee & no permit to purchase needed."

When the gun arrived, they said I couldn't have it without a permit to purchase!!!

They started out saying it was "because it has a pistol grip stock." When I striaghtened them out on that, they said "because of the clip." 10 round, not staggered, not hi-capacity. Nope, that's still not it!
THEN they said it was "because it's black." I said "Oh, so if it was camo color finished then I could have it, huh?", " Oh, well... no," came the reply on the phone. They insisted that there must be "some reason" I can't get the PTP. I told them that it's unconstitutional to force someone to obtain a permit that the law clearly states they DO NOT NEEDED!
BUT, when I threatened to call the ATF & tell them that they were ILLEGALY holding my firearm, things began to change. They want me to "let them call ATF", they said.

At this point, they had already had my carbine for six days.

I doubt they even called... Imagine how embarrasing it would be!!! Maybe they have something to hide from the ATF, who knows. I know my background check came up clean.

Less than 24 hours later, they called my house and said I could come & get it!

Now, I'll give all of the buisness I can to anyone around here, but not them!

If a dealer doesn't know what they can or cannot sell, they have NO BUISNESS in the firearms buisness!!!

After telling several people about this, I've been informed that they have been doing these kinds of things to a good number of other folks in the area, too!

People need to know what Coyote Creek is doing, so it doesn't happen to them.

Know your rights! Know the laws! Stand strong with The Constitution.

Never stop pointing out the tyrannists!

JWHardin
February 21, 2009, 12:22 PM
Here are a few off the top of my head:
Trigger activators like the HellFire gimmick are classified by themselves as illegal machinguns under State code
A couple years back the State redifined the term Firearm to include basically anything that expells a projectile by any means unless that projectile is shot of .17 or smaller propelled by air. While these measures were taken allegedly to prevent prohibited persons from possessing arms their application by the courts has been to say the least, interesting. A year or two back the States Bureau of Criminal Apprehension staged an undercover operation in one of our northernmost communities, Warroad where they brought in a CRI, {confidential reliable informant} who had priors for narcotics and child molestation. Said felon was set up in a vacant store front in the community as a "Pawn Shop" encouraging locals to sell him firearms and drugs. After a bit over a year the Cops grandstanded a huge number of busts, a few legit, the rest ended up being dismissed. Among those charged were a number of young adults who brought in their old BB guns who were later charged with the "crime" of "Brandishing Firearms" as they had the temerity to dare bring an uncased Red Ryder into the fake Pawn Shop. Around the same time police in Crookston leveled firearms charges against a local kid after he shot some girl with a paintball pistol. Those charges were later disposed of in a post conviction appeal to the States high court where it was found that a paintball gun simply didnt have the characteristics to qualify as a weapon.
Yes Minnesota does have shall issue CCW now but little good it does as the State lacks any form of Castle Doctrine, muchless clearly defined self defense exemptions. Some time back a man was sent to prison for shooting a burgler with a Compound Bow. The general attitude thruout Minnesota courts is that even in your own home you are expected to flee from harm. Only if you are unable to flee and have a reasonable expectation of mortal danger are you allowed to defend yourself, muchless with deadly force. This doctrine too is enforced willy nilly. I know a woman who shot down her ex boyfriend dead after he kicked in her door and chased her to her bedroom. Blew him nearly in half with several shots from her Remington 740 .30-06 at about 10'. Local Sheriff and DA agreed he had it coming, no charges filed. Were that to have happened in other counties tho she likely would have been charged and done time. Something to remember is that under State code any act whereby a life is lost is at the very least manslaughter. Pleanty of people have been charged with hunting accidents in this State. Man was convicted in Bemidji not many years ago when he returned fire after he confronted one of his 14 year old daughters rapists. Several hung juries but in the end "justice" was done. Many years ago I was arrested in the Twin Cities after disarming a young Black mugger and turning his knife on him. The only thing that saved me was when they discovered my "victim" was being sought on multiple rape and robbery charges. If not for the dirtbags history I would have been toast in this State.
NFA is limited. NO suppressors period, not even for police. MGs must be on the C&R list.
I can go on and on with regards to Minnesotas idiotic laws made deliberatly vague. For example there is this conversion kit nonsence that has led some parts kit vendors to refuse to ship to addresses in state.
We DO have an AW act which couples certain models in with handguns. Do understand that in this State you technically MUST have some form of permit to possess either a handgun or regulated AW. This isnt really enforced, know of one conviction that occurred in Bemidji over a college kid that was busted with a cased and unloaded TEK22 under the front seat of his car in a routine traffic stop. While he was 22 years of age the gun itself was a gift from his brother and he lacked permit. Family tried to fight it, he lost and did 90 days in the Beltramie county lock up.
Overall Minnesota is a great state but gunwise its certainly not North Dakota or Montana.

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