1895 Nagant revolver?


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hboy35
September 30, 2003, 02:15 PM
anyone here interested in these, or where is a good forum? I just picked mine up today that I ordered from SOG and am very excited about it. A beautiful piece of history.

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keederdag
September 30, 2003, 03:45 PM
I have one as well. I even have a box of Rusky ammo fer it. Doubt I'll ever shoot it though, it looks really good on my wall. Have you seen the ad for the target Nagant? I wonder if they made these recently, or are they vintage?:confused:

hboy35
September 30, 2003, 03:48 PM
I barely found the SOG ad for the standard Nagant. Who has the target version and where did you get your ammo? I am considering just buying brass and bullets from Graf's and loading my own. They are unusual and mine is a fine specimen from SOG.

Tamara
September 30, 2003, 04:40 PM
...Nagant for several years now.

I buy Fiocchi 7.62 Nagant ammo from OWS when I can, and when I can't, I drop the .32 ACP cylinder in.

The DA pull may be super heavy, but it sure is inaccurate!

Still and all, it's a fascinating and shootable piece of history. :)

Think I'll wander out to the back yard and run a cylinder or two through it. Maybe I'll yell "Stoi!" while I'm shooting, too. :D

hboy35
September 30, 2003, 04:46 PM
sorry, maybe that is not what you meant to say, or what it? So far everything I have read says it is very accurate. Where did you get your ACP cylinder? I've only seen them on Makarov.com, but they are sold out presently. I hope to finish cleaning out the cosmo, get some high priced ammo or learn to reload it, and head to the range. Hard to believe a gun that was used for around 50yrs, has ammo this scarce now.

Tamara
September 30, 2003, 05:11 PM
No, I definitely meant "inaccurate."

Point #1: Most of these revolvers will never have seen a round of non-corrosive ammo until you cap off your first Fiocchi through them. To be charitable, the bores run from "poor" to "awful".

Point #2: The double action pull requires two grown men, a small boy, and a chainfall to pull, and the single-action ain't so hot, neither.

I ain't the world's best pistol shot, but I ain't the world's worst, neither, and it takes some effort to make a tin can dance at 15 yards, slowfire, single action. I can do the same feat in rapid-fire double action with nearly any S&W I own.

The trigger on this gun would hinder accuracy even with perfect lockup and a pristine bore. (Oh, and the 23 rounds I just shot in the back yard represent about $28 worth of Fiocchi from OWS. That's with 7.62x38R ammo from the original cylinder. With .32 ACP ammo from the .32 ACP cylinder, I've seen groups of 4"-6" at seven yards, in the hands of multiple shooters.)

Enjoy your new gun, but enjoy it for what it is. :)

BluesBear
September 30, 2003, 05:51 PM
FAC has the .32 acp cylinders.

http://www.gunsnstuff.net/p/045f.html

curt
September 30, 2003, 06:53 PM
Yeah i got mine recently continuing my mystification at the popularity of all things russian. The trigger was apparently constructed with leftover tractor parts and even shooting it single action i did not move the target past 12 yrds or so. As a unique piece of gun engineering it is interesting. I wouldn't recommend buying more than 50 rds for it until you can decide whether you can stand to shoot it, i shot one cylinder full and the rest of the box is safe.

MAK 90 is a jamomatic. We'll see how the bulgarian Mak works out.

Thirties
September 30, 2003, 07:36 PM
" 1895 Nagant revolver? anyone here interested in these, or where is a good forum?"

Hboy, two clicks is all you need:

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=21

and...

http://www.geocities.com/gfisherws36/nagant/m1895.htm

I just got a 1940 built beauty three weeks ago. now I'm loading fine ammo for it using the Lee die set and .32-20 brass, berry's plated HBWC.

Enjoy . . .

Jim K
September 30, 2003, 07:59 PM
I got the .32 H&R Magnum reamer from Brownells and lengthened the chambers on the .32 ACP cylinder. Works pretty well, and now I can use .32ACP, .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R. Why? Beats me.

Jim

JBP
September 30, 2003, 08:24 PM
There is always Nagant enthusiasts over at http://pub113.ezboard.com/bparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums

I had two, sold one for more than I paid for it. I tried the 32 ACP cylinder but never could get it to index smoothly so I included it with the sale. I normally feed it 32 H&R Mag ammo that gives me almost the same accuracy as Nagant ammo at a fraction of the cost.

keederdag
September 30, 2003, 09:43 PM
I got my Russian ammo from a pal of mine that owns a local gun shop. Not sure where he got it, it was about $30, I know the fiochi run's about $50 and I think it went the way of their .455 load (DISCONTINUED). So good luck. I still see it around though, once you shoot it, you probably won't want a whole lot more ammo.:D

Okiecruffler
September 30, 2003, 11:39 PM
A few months ago I yielded to temptation and bought one. At $99 how could I resist. Still haven't shot it, and doubt I ever will. Thinking of putting it in a shadow box with some Soviet medals and patches I've picked up. And if the bore on mine is the norm, Tamara is being very generous in her description. I've seen fence pipe with better bores. But, if you're interested, Century Arms has the .32acp cylinders in the new catalog for $44.87.

Thirties
October 1, 2003, 09:06 AM
I guess I'm a very lucky person indeed. My 1940 Nagant has a clean sharp bore, and shoots within 2" at 15 yards with the Fiocchi ammo ($33.19 @ Graf & Sons), and with my home loaded .32-20 brass (Lee die set).

You can make the recoil feel like hot .22lr ammo, and, although you still need earmufs, the report is way softer than the .38 revolvers.

I am a very happy camper with my Nagant revolver. Check out the links I posted.

BowStreetRunner
October 1, 2003, 10:50 PM
ive only shot mine with some LWC .32 s&w longs
the accuracy lest something to be desired
at 7 yards it was dead on but after that i think it was keyholing because i would aim at the target and hit 3 yards away on the berm (im no sniper but i hope im not that bad)
sometime ill ask for some REAL ammo for Christmas
pretty much all the cases bulged too
the bore aint so purty, even after some sweets 7.62
maybe i should shoot it hot and then try and clean it
still a great piece of history
i cant see myself ever parting with this one
BSR

curt
October 2, 2003, 10:02 PM
Just measured the trigger pull on mine 10 lbs 6 oz...in single action mode. However it does have a lot of creep :rolleyes: .

Tamara
October 2, 2003, 11:25 PM
We tried to measure the DA pull on mine once.

Didn't have enough weights, though... :uhoh:

444
October 2, 2003, 11:48 PM
I shot one at a vintage match.
I agree, it has without question, the worst trigger pull I have ever experienced. I actually stopped mid-stream on the first shot because I thought something was wrong.

I would like to have one anyway.

RON in PA
October 6, 2003, 01:01 AM
Just got my third Nagant. It's an "imperial" 1906 Tula that had the markings about the "imperial arsenal" obliterated bt the Soviets. What a piece of history, WW1, the Revolution and WW2. My other two are a 1943 Tula and a 1944 Ishevsk.

Shot it SA with Fiocchi ammo at seven yards using two hands with an isoceles stance and got a seven shot group of 1", single hand group of about 13/4". The gun has the usual terrible SA trigger and impossible DA pull. My other two are similar in performance.

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