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usmarine0352_2005
February 3, 2009, 07:25 PM
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This can't be good.



http://officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=45230



Orlando Police Streamline Gun Database

Posted: Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Updated: February 3rd, 2009 10:24 AM EDT




ORLANDO, Fla. --

Orlando police have a new plan to catch violent criminals. They're now using a gun database similar to a DNA database to track down guns used in crimes and the people who pulled the trigger.

The police have already had some success with it. The Orlando-based Florida Department of Law Enforcement lab matched up a cartridge casing used in a homicide last month in Orlando to another gun crime in Orange County.

Matching casings to solve crimes isn't new, but Orlando police have streamlined the process to solve crimes faster.

FDLE has been comparing casings in the Orlando lab since 2001 to try and link crimes and catch the criminals who fired the gun. They work old cases first and then focus on new ones, but the lab is backed up and it's expected to take two years to clear all the cases currently in the system.

Instead of waiting, Orland police are now brining their casings from new crimes into the lab weekly and they are being tested immediately.

"We didn't have to wait months, we didn't have to wait weeks. We got that information right away," explained Lt. Victor Uvalle, Orlando Police Department.

Orlando police are bringing about 20 guns a week to be tested at the state lab. The program is funded by a federal grant.

Meanwhile, the state is training three more lab techs who will to focus on the two-year backlog.

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Duke of Doubt
February 3, 2009, 07:33 PM
Makes no sense to me at all.

Unless you get a serial killer using an autoloading pistol, same one for each crime, leaving brass at the scene, it's useless. Even given the above unlikely scenario, all you know is that you think the same gun was fired at each scene at some point in time, or someone tossed or dropped a casing from that gun there at some point. Which tells you very little, indeed.

Must be why I've never seen that CSI junk science ever show up in a real criminal court.

LKB3rd
February 3, 2009, 08:15 PM
I am all for solving crimes, and if they have a technique to do that, then great. The problem is, that we all know where this sort of thing always leads. Registration of all guns. And registration of guns always leads to confiscations historically.

schumachiavelli
February 3, 2009, 08:18 PM
I'll don my flame suit now, because I gotta say I don't mind.

Izaak Walton
February 3, 2009, 09:26 PM
1-Orlando police are bringing about 20 guns a week to be tested at the state lab. The program is funded by a federal grant.

2-Meanwhile, the state is training three more lab techs who will to focus on the two-year backlog.

3-Copyright 2009 by wftv.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

1- Where are the guns from, federal grant?
2-Good, working to try to catch up.
3-May not be

beatcop
February 3, 2009, 11:15 PM
-Some states mandate by LAW that ballistic samples & or cases must be collected from LEO service weapons and stored. I believe some mandate the same for civilian handgun sales.

- Some require all firearms seized as a result of a criminal investigation to be sampled and a chain of custody developed...ie track each owner over the years.

-Same for gun buy-back programs...test it to see if it was used in a crime.

This really isn't revolutionary. Weapons are "durable goods" that will last a few generations...if you can match the gun up to a particular crime, you may be able to solve a few...maybe.

Initial purchases are ALREADY registered and some states require a form for ftf sales. Every 4473 form is stored at various levels...FFL holder, Local pd usually get's a notification of some sort, ATF records. Thank your local legislators.

devildog4329
February 4, 2009, 04:12 PM
The state of Maryland adopted a law a few years back where all hand guns in the state need to have a spent caseing sent to the state police before buying the weapon. This was to help catch criminals. The funny thing is that this new practice has not lead to a single arrest or conviction. Good wast of tax payers money. Most criminals dont follow the law ie thats why there a criminal. So why would they buy a legal gun and follow all the rules to own a gun.

yokel
February 4, 2009, 04:24 PM
One of the great myths of this world is that gun control laws actually work.

Time and time again the uninformed and feeble-minded rally against gun ownership as if it is the sin of the world and the lack of gun control has damned us all to hell on Earth.

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