Two Kimbers or One Ed Brown?


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jmahalek
February 5, 2009, 12:42 PM
Been bitten by the 1911 bug. Have a Colt Defender, which I really like. I want to get a bigger (4-5") pistol. Initially thought a Kimber, but have read a lot about Ed Brown, Les Baer, etc...

I could get two Kimbers for the price of one of the other high end pistols. Were the Kimber issues short lived and are the new ones improved? Is one Ed Brown worth two Kimbers?

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Thomas Garrett
February 5, 2009, 12:57 PM
Personally i'd go with the Ed Brown. Reason- My friend just bought 2 Kimbers, (new) a Tactical Pro Custom II, and a Super Match II, both in .45 cal. He's had nothing but problems with both. Not feeding, slides locking back while the mag is half full, not ejecting and stove piping. 500 rounds is what he's been told. not good. go with the Ed Brown and enjoy a perfected machine.

kamagong
February 5, 2009, 01:08 PM
I don't have a big collection, nor do I want one. At this point I own two 1911s, and that'll be it for the foreseeable future. Because I knew that I wanted a few really nice guns instead of a bunch of good guns I went ahead and bought myself a Les Baer and a Springfield Custom. I've never regretted my decision.

That's the funny thing about gun enthusiasts. We all spend money on our hobby one way or the other. A person at my range noticed my Baer and mentioned that he could never spend that much money on a gun. On the other hand I've seen him bring four Glocks to the range at the same time. It was ridiculous hearing his comment on the cost of my Baer when he easily spent more than that on his Glocks.

I would get the Ed Brown myself. Before you make your decision you should ask yourself what type of owner you are, do you want two good guns or do you want one great gun?

Thaddeus Jones
February 5, 2009, 01:15 PM
Ed Brown........if for no other reason, than the savings in return shipping charges to Yonkers NY. :)

j1979
February 5, 2009, 01:30 PM
Id rather have one really nice one that 2, well I just dont like Kimbers. Id go with the EB hands down. On the contrary I would rather have my two DW's than one EB.

Supertac45
February 5, 2009, 01:36 PM
No comparison between the two. I'd go with Brown or Bear.

benderx4
February 5, 2009, 01:42 PM
is one ed brown worth two kimbers?

hell yes!!!!!

PO2Hammer
February 5, 2009, 03:06 PM
If Ed Brown is anything like Les Baer, then yes, one Baer/Brown is worth two Kimbers.

It took me a lot of money and years to figure it out, but yes, My Baer is worth all three of the other 1911s I've owned over the years (Colt, SA, Kimber).

You can only shoot one at a time anyway, why not make it a good one?

Lone_Gunman
February 5, 2009, 03:09 PM
I have owned 4 or 5 Kimbers, and none were even close to 100 percent reliable.

I would rather defend myself with a pointy stick thank with a Kimber.

robctwo
February 5, 2009, 04:47 PM
If you have the $ for an Ed Brown or Les Baer full size, very good choices. I started with a SA Black Stainless Target and then bought a S&W1911PD Commander with CT grips. Later bought a Brown Exec Target and Baer PII, both slightly used. No comparison. Much better guns. I still have all four and do not regret getting the SA or the S&W. S&W is light weight and good for carry, also good in the dark with the laser grips.

The two for the price of one only makes sense to me if there are two very different applications you are looking for, like a heavy target range gun and light weight carry, which was my initial reasoning.

jmahalek
February 5, 2009, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the input. Found an Ed Brown Kobra Carry to purchase. I'm definitely after quality. What's the deal with the Gen III coating? Worth it?

CoRoMo
February 5, 2009, 07:12 PM
I've always heard a ton of criticisms about Kimbers. All on the internet.
I've used Kimbers (never owned one) and know a lot of people that own Kimbers. Those 1st hand and 2nd hand experiences were 100% positive, 100% reliable, and 100% worth every penny. These guys would take their Kimbers into war. I think they are high quality 1911s.

I've never heard the same level of criticism with regards to Brown/Baers.
I've never known a sole who owns one. I think they are of the highest quality.

Given my experiences, I'd go with two Kimbers.

Jason_G
February 5, 2009, 07:42 PM
What's the deal with the Gen III coating? Worth it?

I'd just as soon go with the stainless/stainless without the Gen III personally, but to each their own. If it's a carry gun, and you would like to still keep it looking as nice as possible, the flats on a stainless gun can be dolled back up with a super fine blending pad.

Jason

ReadyontheRight
February 5, 2009, 07:48 PM
Two Dan Wessons. One for each hand.

Having said that, I've never shot an Ed Brown, so I have no idea what I'm missing.:evil:

76shuvlinoff
February 5, 2009, 08:06 PM
:D...

j1979
February 5, 2009, 08:08 PM
Ive never shot a EB either. Im gonna say its safe to assume I wouldnt shoot it any better than my Valor. That being said I would still like one, someday

NGIB
February 5, 2009, 08:28 PM
Both of my Kimbers are great guns and 100% reliable. I also have a Colt, Dan Wesson, and a couple of Springers. All of mine are a little different in size and configuration so they have their intended uses. If I was only going to get a single 5" gun, I'd go Ed Brown or Les Baer. There will come a day that I will...

robctwo
February 5, 2009, 09:44 PM
I have heard good things about that coating, but I am going with IonBond on my Ed Brown slide and both Baer slides/frames/small parts. They are away getting treated as we speak.

Ruggles
February 5, 2009, 09:53 PM
If you are going to get a Brown, Baer, Wilson or Nighthawk go with George at Gunslingers.

http://www.migunslingers.com/

Great prices, great guy and heck he even has layaway for the higher end 1911, even if you special order one thru him.

I also vote for the Brown over 2 Kimbers. I have had 3 Kimbers 1 was a good gun (Ultra Raptor II), 1 was OK (Warrior) and 1 was a POS (UCII). I have a Baer now and both a Wilson and a Brown coming from George.

model of 1905
February 5, 2009, 11:05 PM
I'd rather have NO Kimbers and no Ed Brown than to have two Kimbers.
Buy the Brown, you will thank me later.

dmw16
February 5, 2009, 11:21 PM
I'd rather have 1 gun I LOVE than 2 I like...

uh-oh
February 6, 2009, 12:07 AM
I realized what I was doing by buying multiple "decent" guns was I was looking for a level of quality that just isn't there in production guns. Buy the Brown or Baer or whatever semi-custom you like and you'll realize the truth.

To be honest, having owned one Kimber that worked 100% for the short time I had it, MHO is Kimber is more hype than anything. They offer a lot of quality for a production pistol, but still don't match up to a semi-custom.

stevek
February 6, 2009, 02:10 PM
We have 3 Kimbers. A Raptor II, Pro Raptor II ( my wife's favorite), and Ultra Raptor II. All have been 100% with no malfs at all. I also have an Ed Brown Kobra Carry in stainless/stainless. After the black/blue finish of the Kimbers I wanted the EB to be stainless. There is definitely a level of pride in ownership with the EB. But heck, had the same pride when we first got the Raptors :D Nothing wrong with quantity and quality ;)

CWL
February 6, 2009, 04:30 PM
Ed Brown all the way over Kimber.

Or you can buy a Dan Wesson and spend the rest of the money on some tactical training and bullets.

rduckwor
February 6, 2009, 04:56 PM
One Ed Brown beats a Kimber fullhouse any day.

RMD

MICHAEL T
February 6, 2009, 07:11 PM
Ed Brown or 2 Dan Wessons Kimber to much trouble My Kimber didn't stay long . Ed Brown on my 2009 wish list and a 2nd DW

HorseSoldier
February 6, 2009, 07:36 PM
I'd go with the high end option personally. I've owned two drama free Kimbers along the way, but my Wilson is a whole lot more gun. For a serious use pistol, I'd prefer a semi-custom gun from a place like Ed Brown, Wilson, Baer, etc., or a Kimber that had been worked over by a 'smith.

Mike OTDP
February 6, 2009, 10:17 PM
You can only shoot one gun at a time. May as well put the money into a gun worth shooting.

Jed Carter
February 7, 2009, 08:51 AM
I suggest you check out the thread " what is the most unreliable semi auto you have shot"? Posted by SJ78. Unfortunately the name Kimber was listed in several posts, I have no experience with either the Kimber or the Ed Brown, but do own 2 1911's, a Wilson Combat and Springfield Longslide. Buy the custom, at least it will give your friends a case of gun envy.

MikePGS
February 7, 2009, 10:24 AM
I"ve shot a few Kimbers (Range rentals so only for a limited time) and they didn't seem to have any problems whatsoever (admittedly during a limited test, but also one was a range gun so that might say something in its favor). Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, all of these guns have great reps, but you're forgetting one very important thing. If you have two kimbers, you can dual wield them. And how cool would that be? :neener:

schmeky
February 7, 2009, 12:32 PM
If you get an Ed Brown, you won't want a Kimber, or Springfield, or Colt. Trust me on this;)

texas bulldog
February 7, 2009, 01:21 PM
i'm sure the ed brown is nice, though i can't say from experience. if i were made of money or my wife and kid never wanted to buy anything for themselves, i'd love to own one.

however...
if it were my choice, i'd get two dan wessons. better customer service and QC than kimber (IMO). it's nice to see that the wessons are catching on here more and more. you can't hardly have a thread about kimber, colt, or springfield 1911s without a few folks suggesting you take a look at DW.

one in .45 and one in 10mm sounds just about perfect.

CTPistol
February 7, 2009, 03:01 PM
kimber will always show up in posts just by the volume of pistols they sell. People are far more likely to post a negative.

I own 2 and both are 100% - great shooters and high quality for the price.

But Id rather own the nicest gun I could afford comfortably, not 2 that split the price.....one awesome 1911 before 2 very good ones.

enjoy!

sophijo
February 7, 2009, 03:55 PM
Take a gander a Les Baer Monolith....I dare ya!

1911shooter
February 7, 2009, 04:05 PM
One Ed Brown you will not regret it, forget about kimber.

Dobe
February 7, 2009, 06:49 PM
My Brown is my favorite hangun, not just my favorite 1911. It is worth the price.

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