[saskboy]

My neighbor got a whole wack of these reloads made up with I beleive 165 gr scirocco bullets in a .300 wsm. Wow do they suck! They shoot all over the place, the guy he got them from said he has trouble with them in all of his magnum rifles, although he said they shoot fine in his 30 06. It will shoot up to 4" groups at 100 yards! I loaded up some 155 gr amax's for his gun and its grouping .5", so i know its not the rifle or scope to blame. Has anyone had any good or bad experiences with these bullets?

[45ACPUSER]

Every one I know seems to have great success with the Barnes MRX!

[Cypress]

They seemed to be fairly accurate in my .270 and the results on game are some of the best I've seen.

[1moa@500]

If you look at the length of the bullet it will be longer that most standard 165 grain bullets. The problem is the rate of twist in that rifle. I too have had that problem loading that bullet in the 30-06 and 300 win mag. there is a lot of variables that could effect the accuracy in your gun but my money is on the rate of twist of that rifle. I had to switch bullets to get better accuracy.

[saskboy]

The problem is the rate of twist in that rifle

Thats what I was thinking was wrong too. Its got a 1 in 11 twist on the 300.

[Strongbad]

My father and I both shot the original Swift Scirroco's in 338 out of two different target rifles. In both guns, after finding the right load, the bullets shot like match bullets. In the same hole, time and time again. I shot numerous deer with them, no issues. He took them to Africa in his rifle and shot all manner of plains game with them and they performed perfectly on everything.

Enter the Scirocco II's. A couple of years ago, Swift changed the construction of the bullets and introduced the Scirocco II's. This is when everything went to hell. The profile/shape is the same on the new bullets, but apparently they're bonded better or something along those lines. All I know is that out of all the 338 rifles we have, they wont shoot in any of them. We're talking about guns that are relatively consistent with ALL bullets, and exceptional with some turning into guns shooting 4"-6" groups.

It gets better. I've spoken to the owner of Swift at a show since then, recently actually. I discussed some of the accuracy issues that we were having and of course got the typical "Well what's your seating depth, and..." response. Then the gentlemen has the gall to tell me that they never made a Scirroco I in 338 and proceeds to rattle off the calibers that they supposedly DID make them in. I know this to be un-true, and have confirmed it with others. So that leads me to one of two conclusions.

1. The guy doesn't know his own products. Which is bad enough.

2. He knows there's something going on there and lied.

I honestly believe that it's the latter (he was adamant), and I wont ever buy another Swift bullet again. Anyway, there it is. For what it's worth. Now, all the negativity aside, I believe that the Scirocco's (if you can get them to shoot) are probably some of the best if not the best killers out there.

[NCsmitty]

My neighbor got a whole wack of these reloads made up with I beleive 165 gr scirocco bullets in a .300 wsm. Wow do they suck!

That was his first mistake!
Reloading involves working up loads in small samples as most people know, so you don't end up with a pile of unusable loads. One load does not fit all.

It's now time to pull all the bullets that are loaded, and try different powders and COL ranges. The Swift Scirroco should be able to be accurate out of this rifle if you do work ups.
On the other hand, I've seen some rifle/bullet combos end up just not being compatible.

I know little about Swift Scirroco bullets except what I read. They are high priced, but carry a good reputation for performance on game.
It's not anything that I would buy, as there are bullets that equal the performance at half the cost.
I guess it's up to the owner just how much time he wants to invest in the quest.

NCsmitty

[627PCFan]

They are known to be very accurate bullets. Did this guy subscribe to the "pick any load in the book" reloading theory or did he test powders?

[saskboy]

Did this guy subscribe to the "pick any load in the book" reloading theory or did he test powders?

Honestly I dont know, but regardless of the load I have never had such bad grouping while working up any loads. A four inch group at 100 yrds is terrible, period.

All I know is that out of all the 338 rifles we have, they wont shoot in any of them. We're talking about guns that are relatively consistent with ALL bullets, and exceptional with some turning into guns shooting 4"-6" groups.

Seems like they either work excellent or absolutely terrible on a rifle to rifle basis. Ill pull all of his bullets and try them in the .308 instead.

[Plentywolf]

Bare with me I'm new;

Someone gave me a box of Sierra 180gr GKs. Horrible accuracy! Weights were all over the place. He got them at the Cabela's bargin cave. I've heard of people buying a few boxes, weigh the bullets, throw to top and bottom weights in a box, complain, and get a refund or new box of bullets. Pretty low down IMHO.

[Pat S]

I've never shot anything with one of these but bought a box to see if they would group in an 06' I've got but they wouldn't group for me. Hornady Interbonds on the other hand shoot very well in a bonded bullet.

[45crittergitter]

180 Sciroccos (#1) pretty much shoot in the same hole in my .300 Win. Mag.

[wolfmaan]

saskboy i have read your comment about your friend and his 300 wsm. i don't know what is wrong with his accury but i have a winchester 300wsm and i'm using swift scirocco 2 180gr bullets and at 100 yards i'm printing .5 inch groups with .10 inch from lans i probley could do better if i could hold steady.

[Patocazador]

Different barrels and different guns like different bullets. I had a 7x57 Ackley Imp. that shot Nosler Partitions great but put 120 gr. Barnes X bullets all over the place. Conversely, my 7-30 Waters Contender shot .7" groups with the same X bullet. This was after wasting 2 boxes working up loads for both guns. The amount of throat and the length of the magazine also plays a part due to the cartridge OAL.

[NeuseRvrRat]

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