Couldn't do it (revolver)


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2nd 41
February 7, 2009, 11:30 PM
Went to buy a S&W 642.....kept handling...looking at it.....put it down...picked it up again. Couldn't feel the love.

Saw this good looking Sig232 in Two Tone near the Smith. I pulled the trigger on this one. My first buy of 09.

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Guitargod1985
February 8, 2009, 01:40 AM
Not to poo poo the revolver, but I think you'll be exceptionally pleased with the P232. It's my every day carry gun. It's very accurate, points naturally, and lets you get a full grip on an otherwise small gun.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=73223&d=1203391388

David E
February 8, 2009, 02:08 AM
It's a .380. A large .380 at that.

For the same size and weight, if not LESS, you could have a 9mm or even a .40

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wrs840
February 8, 2009, 02:33 AM
I'll go ahead and pile on and say IMO the 642 would have been a better choice for personal defense / concealed carry.

Les

MICHAEL T
February 8, 2009, 02:58 AM
You did fine If you don't like the feel don't buy

ljnowell
February 8, 2009, 04:02 AM
You did fine If you don't like the feel don't buy

Thats the truth. Although, the beauty of the smith comes out in the action.

benderx4
February 8, 2009, 08:40 AM
I bought a used 642 to see what all the hoopla was about and hated it. The gun itself, performed as advertised but I couldn't hit anything with it. I sold it and bought a Seecamp. (Searching for a Rohrbaugh as we speak.)

Gotta get what is comfortable and what works for you. Thank God there are so many excellent weapons to choose from!

2nd 41
February 8, 2009, 10:48 AM
The 642 is a classy piece. I have nothing negative to say about it. I bought the Sig for the night stand. Carrying is not an issue and wanted a gun I could take to the range.
I had Mod 37 years ago. Also had a 230SL. I had the experience of owning/firing both. Both are reliable self protectors. But man....the Two Tone....saw it, liked it, bought it. I over paid slightly. I would have bought a Stainless if it was in stock.

Old Fuff
February 8, 2009, 11:21 AM
A thread like this will be filled with posts from members that say, "Oh no, you shouldn't have bought that, it's no good, what you really need is... (fill in the blank."

Ignore them. :what:

You bought what YOU liked, and it will work fine for what you have in mind. A .380 bullet that's placed where it should be will stop the biggest and bad'st bad guy you're likely to encounter, and most won't stick around once they find out you're armed - with anything.

That little SIG is a class act piece of machinery, and fully equal to the S&W when it comes to quality.

If the keyboard commandos knew some of the stuff I've depended on to protect my neck over many decades they'd :barf:, and I've known a number of professionals in the business who have done much the same - like a British SAS officer who had a Colt Police Positive chambered is .38 S&W (which isn't any more powerful then a .380 ACP) and in his hands it was absolutely deadly.

So buy what you like and ignore the rest. Where is it written that they know more then you do? ;)

wrs840
February 8, 2009, 12:01 PM
... Went to buy a S&W 642... ...I bought the Sig for the night stand. Carrying is not an issue and wanted a gun I could take to the range....

Certainly don't buy what doesn't give you a tingle. Since you stated that your original mission was to buy a 642, I assumed you were specifically looking for a daily concealed-carry weapon, what with the 642 being pretty specialized to that purpose.

Enjoy your new Sig!
Les

FoMoGo
February 8, 2009, 12:26 PM
I have not run across a J frame I would own.
They do NOT fit my hand... if a pistol doesnt fit... I dont buy it.
I wont own a .380 either :D


Jim

2nd 41
February 8, 2009, 01:53 PM
Since you stated that your original mission was to buy a 642, I assumed you were specifically looking for a daily concealed-carry weapon, what with the 642 being pretty specialized to that purpose.

Concealed carry was not my intention. Just wanted a small reliable gun for home protection. If I carried it would definitely be the 642. Those snubbies are a small cannon and extremely concealable. That's a Plus.

Girodin
February 8, 2009, 02:49 PM
I think the sig 232 is a gorgeous gun. I love the look and feel. I would not choose one for SD or HD personally becasue there are other guns I prefer for that but the 232 is a nice little gun no doubt. I hope you enjoy your new purchase.

David E
February 8, 2009, 02:56 PM
I bought a used 642 to see what all the hoopla was about and hated it. The gun itself, performed as advertised but I couldn't hit anything with it.

With all due respect, it wasnt' the fault of the GUN.....

One thing to keep in mind, is that if a revolver doesn't "fit," then buy some stocks that DO !

Problem solved.

.

bluetopper
February 8, 2009, 03:01 PM
I have diligently tried to get my 642 to work in single-action and never suceeded.........I sold it.

BobGrand
February 8, 2009, 05:04 PM
Six month ago I went in search of a small, carry auto loader. I wasn't sure what I wanted, other than smaller then my Bersa Thunder 45. After looking at several small autos that didn't "feel right, " my wife noticed a small revolver in the case. She suggested I check it out, as it reminded her of the gun her boss carries. That was my first intro to a Smith 642. I loved the feel and fit and got mine for Christmas.

My point being that you need to buy what feels good and fits your hand. It does no good to have what is deemed "correct" by anybody else if it doesn't work for you. It's all personal opinion, even if you are listening to someone who is recognized as the absolute best in the field. If it doesn't work for you, their opinion doesn't matter.

BobGrand
February 8, 2009, 05:06 PM
By the way, Parasite, the 642 is a DA only revolver. No hammer to draw back for SA. Maybe you had one of it's cousins?

wrs840
February 8, 2009, 05:46 PM
I think that was humor.


Mr. Rimshot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U), please...

Les

fastbolt
February 8, 2009, 06:28 PM
Well, you bought what you liked best.

Who cares what anyone else might think?

Revolvers aren't for everyone.

When it comes to that, it's probably fair to say that short-barreled, light weight DAO revolvers aren't even for all the folks who like revolvers.

If you can't safely, accurately and effectively use something under the duress, then it might also be fair to consider that it might not be a good handgun to own for the purpose of lawful self defense, either.

The Sig Sauer P232 is fine little blow-back .380 ACP pistol. I've known LE and non-LE (CCW) folks who used them well, were confident in their skills when using them and were thus well served by them.

I wouldn't choose one for my own needs ... and I can shoot diminutive DA/DAO revolvers fairly well ... none of which means that I would ever think a good quality .380 pistol, in the hands of someone who can safely and effectively use it, is a 'bad choice' for that person.

Thanks for sharing. Don't feel you have to justify your choice to anyone other than yourself.

I'm one of those folks who feel the knowledge of when it's lawful and appropriate to use deadly force in self defense is more important than the particular handgun someone may select that potential purpose.

2nd 41
February 8, 2009, 09:23 PM
Thanks for sharing. Don't feel you have to justify your choice to anyone other than yourself.


I appreciate what you're saying. I'm just telling what my Saturday was like. I got a nasty case of sticker shock. My S&W37 was $235 in 1980 and my 230SL was $410 in 1987. I might buy the 642 down the line. What discouraged me from buying the Smiths, One had a scratched cylinder,(the 642) the other looked liked like it fired more than a few test rounds.(442)
I had revolvers before. A S&W586, 37, and a Stainless 6" Python. The Python was a beauty. A real piece of work. I'm sorry I didn't keep it and frame it.
Thanks for the replies. THR members usually have great feedback.

10-Ring
February 9, 2009, 12:59 AM
There are enough firearms out there to fit everyone's needs -- no need to settle or compromise. If the pistol works better for you, then you done good!

piratelooking@40
February 9, 2009, 10:11 AM
I agree with both sides here. A .380 is hardly an ideal defensive piece. But I don't specifically buy "defensive pieces" myself. I buy what I like, and if - the gods forfend - the balloon goes up, one of them will serve. (Luckily, what I like, mostly, is .45s and military rifles :)).

So you bought what you liked. And it is an awfully nice gun.

Pilot
February 9, 2009, 12:35 PM
Fine firearm. One of the best .380's out there. You made a GREAT choice. Corbon .380's out of that 4 inch barrel are close to the .38's that are fired from the 642. Its fine for self defense.

Eightball
February 9, 2009, 03:12 PM
I have not run across a J frame I would own.
They do NOT fit my hand... if a pistol doesnt fit... I dont buy it.Because obviously, there's not a ton of manufacturers and options for aftermarket grip adaptability for revolver designs and frame sizes that have been around the block for a few decades..... :rolleyes:

To each their own.

On the other hand--the 232 is just plain sexy looking. Got pics of yours?

FoMoGo
February 9, 2009, 11:32 PM
I have tried them with a multitude of grips.
Sometimes guns just dont fit.
or... maybe I just like a better fit than most... who knows.


Jim

makarovnik
February 10, 2009, 12:22 AM
Sleek and reeks of class.

Frisconian
February 10, 2009, 08:59 PM
I did just the opposite -- went looking for a small .380 or 9mm and looked at a bunch (Kahr PM9, Glock 26, Para PDA, Sig P232, etc.) and then happened to spot a S&W 642 in the case. Asked to look at it on a whim and ended up walking out with one (with the Crimson Trace grips). I hadn't even thought about looking at revolvers when I started out.

I like it. Feel like it was the right choice for me...

scottishclaymore
February 10, 2009, 09:54 PM
Yeah. Up to a certain point caliber is important -- I for one will never carry or rely on a .25 caliber handgun for self-defense. Of course, that's just my opinion too.

.380 is a respectable cartridge (IMHO, of course) and will do its part if you do yours. You bought a gun that fit you well and you liked it. Good job.

I_AM_LEGEND
February 10, 2009, 10:43 PM
well if you don't like the p232 let me know, my Dad's buddy is wanting one really bad and has put the word out for us to find him one...

Jim PHL
February 10, 2009, 10:49 PM
I really like that Sig. There are a couple of other .380's I like, too, but you can only own so many guns....OK, so maybe I can only own so many:(.
In all honesty, my S+W 342 is probably my least favorite of all the guns I own, and the one I am most likely to have on me at any given time because it's pretty much perfect for it's intended purpose.

To each his own.

2nd 41
February 14, 2009, 05:17 PM
Picked up the 232 Two Tone today. Removed the slide, lightly oiled the rails....fired 107 rounds with out a hitch. Did not expect any hang ups. The 7 rounds were Hydro Shocks. This pistol is reliable & accurate. What else can be said? So now I own a Stainless 230SL and a new 232 two tone. Life is good. So is my collection.

don95sml
February 14, 2009, 07:32 PM
David E wrote:
It's a .380. A large .380 at that.
For the same size and weight, if not LESS, you could have a 9mm or even a .40

A lot of people seem to make this assumption. But have you actually weighed (or at least calculated the weight of) a fully loaded gun? The ammo adds significant weight. I carry a P230SL (stainless steel) in .380. Show me a steel 9mm that, fully loaded, weighs less. If you're into polymer, I'll concede that you might be right - but tupperware is not a gun IMHO.

Resto Guy
February 14, 2009, 07:56 PM
testing

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