Keeping my rifles rust-free


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nrgetik
February 11, 2009, 04:54 PM
I cleaned my Mosin-Nagant of cosmoline about a 3 weeks ago and have been keeping it indoors, however I took it out the other night for some compare & contrast (my cousin bought one), and noticed some light rusting at the base of the bolt handle, as well as around the collar slots.

Given, I live in Florida so the humidity is probably a factor here, but 3 weeks? It made me wonder what might happen after only a year.

After I cleaned it of the cosmoline I did give it a good spray down with CLP, but apparently that isn't going to be sufficient.

So what are my options here for protecting these things? I've since purchased another Mosin and while I'm open to the idea of buying cases for the guns, at the same time it could wind up being cost prohibitive for me. Maybe some kind of solid grease? Any suggestions welcome

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offthepaper
February 11, 2009, 05:08 PM
A light coat of oil should do it. if you have a safe, consider getting a "dryrod" that creates just a bit of warmth to keep humidity levels in the safe low.
Did you oil all the metal parts after cleaning the cosmo off?

p.s.
make sure to check the chamber and bore if the bolt handle is showing signs of corrosion.

p.s.2 -- if you fired corrosive ammo through it did you clean it enough to remove all the corrosive salts from the primers. I always run a couple of patches soaked with windex, and wipe the bolt down also, before leaving the range. The ammonia neutralizes the salts, just clean as normal when you get home. if left uncleaned after firing, the salts will eat the thing alive.

cal74
February 11, 2009, 05:11 PM
How are you storing them?

If they are inside a safe of any sorts get a golden rod (low voltage heated rod that helps keep humidity down) fairly cheap.

If you putting them in a gun case, than don't. Find another method for storage, or at least do not seal the case.

Browning also has a little deal that supposed to put some kind of chemical into your safe to prevent rust. Don't know the name of it off hand, but it's around 10-15 bucks and lasts a year or two.

nrgetik
February 11, 2009, 05:11 PM
Yes, I oiled the metal parts after cleaning the cosmo

I did fire corrosive ammo through it, but I already knew about the Windex trick and I sprayed some through it immediately afterwards

They aren't inside anything. I don't have a safe. They were leaning up against the wall in my closet.

JimmAr
February 11, 2009, 09:48 PM
WD-40.. always

pbrktrt
February 11, 2009, 10:03 PM
corrosion-x. best stuff i've ever used.

nrgetik
February 11, 2009, 10:25 PM
how viscous is corrosion-x? where can i buy online?

husker
February 11, 2009, 10:31 PM
me to good old W-D 40 on all my guns. machinist threading oil works good to it will also help hide any scatches on your wood

jester_s1
February 11, 2009, 10:58 PM
A second for Corrosion X. Wipe it down with CX and put it in a silicone treated sock and it'll be good for at least a year.

rangerruck
February 11, 2009, 10:58 PM
corrosion x and eezox is great stuff. also keep them in silicone socks. then keep them in rifle bags. last but not least, and maybe the best, look for vci emitter liquid, or discs. Carters Country in Houston sells them in cloths, and cardboard chips. vci liquid has been around about 40 years, the military-army used to coat the inside of 'elephant rubbers' with this stuff, and then you put in your ar, no rust. i throw a couple of cardboard pieces in my rifle bags, none of my rifles ever rust. You can order straight from the company as well, just type in vci emitter discs, they are about the size of a silver dollar, and have a peel off sticky side on the back. the emit the vapor, that coats all your metal parts. no rust. I once did an expirement with these, on a 70 year old marlin 22, that had no bluing whatsoever, just bare steel, in a fur lined bag, in the back of a leaky trunk, in Houston, from February, when it was rainy and cold, up through April. Pulled rifle out of bag, no rust.

sohcgt2
February 11, 2009, 11:09 PM
check your local Wal-Mart in the housewares section for closet desicant. It comes in about a 1 quart box, you put it in the closet for about a month and then dump out the water and throw it away. It's way less expensive than a dehumidifier.

Funderb
February 11, 2009, 11:17 PM
clean with water, not windex. the extra chemicals do nothing but help evaporate the water faster. If you wipe down with oil after cleaning, you don't have to worry.

Matt-J2
February 11, 2009, 11:19 PM
Are you positive it wasn't already there?

A Mosin ain't exactly a new rifle, nor were they typically in the hands of collectors who slaved over keeping it clean before they got their Cosmoline bath. Most of them have some surface rusting and blemishes.

sharkhunter2018
February 11, 2009, 11:50 PM
clean with water, not windex.
+1
First time I used Windex was the last time. After a week, there was rust in the bore. Since I've been using plain hot water, the bore has never rusted on me. Get the metal hot enough, there is generally no need to wipe down left over water droplets. It will just evaporate.

30Cal
February 11, 2009, 11:53 PM
I've had guns in extremely humid conditions. Never had an issue as long as I made sure there weren't any fingerprints on it.

nrgetik
February 12, 2009, 12:35 AM
I'm positive it wasn't already there, yes.

What's a silicone sock?

Thanks for all your ideas btw guys.

Old Jimmy
February 12, 2009, 01:21 AM
I use RIG {rust inhibiting grease} on the sheepskin wiper they sell and my Mosin's stopped rusting on me...

DWH
February 12, 2009, 01:49 AM
I've been using Ezzox for the past few years. Love it!

rangerruck
February 12, 2009, 02:43 AM
It's a rifle gunsock, you slip over your rifle, that is impregnated with silicone.
cost about 5 bucks.

nrgetik
February 12, 2009, 06:38 PM
great, thanks a lot everyone, will look into all this stuff

got taken out by the flu today

porterdog
February 12, 2009, 08:30 PM
Another vote for Corrosion X; they sell it direct, google it.

It's got a real affinity for metal as well- it tends to creep across the metal surface, even against gravity.

My winter car is a used Subaru, a 98. The previous owner probably took it to a quick tire change place who crushed the welded ribs at the bottom of the rockers, cracking the paint and exposing metal. As I live in Michigan, and other parts of the car are already showing corrosion, I sprayed the rockers down with CX. By the next day, the overspray I got on the bottom of the doors had crept up to the character line on the body, mebbe 20".

It also keeps the rust off my SIG 228; they're rust prone.

azalps
February 12, 2009, 08:57 PM
Move to AZ:)

nrgetik
February 13, 2009, 02:25 PM
Ok guys, I'm definitely buying some Corrosion-X since it's fairly cheap, and while I was looking into the gun socks and the VCI emitter discs (which are way too expensive by the way), I stumbled across this:

"4 - Pk. Beretta VCI Gun Socks"
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=405038

For $10 less I could get the standard silicone socks (because I'm going to need 4 anyhow), but the general consensus seems to be that VCI is best - what I'm wondering is, will this sock perform just as well as the discs do? There aren't any reviews for these yet which is why I'm sketchy on buying them; anyone have any experience with them?

Thanks again

Davionmaximus
February 13, 2009, 02:38 PM
Thanks for this thread!! some great tips...

CWL
February 13, 2009, 03:07 PM
Wax. Paste wax that you use to protect cars, others have had success with Johnson's wood wax but I've never used it so I dunno.

You want something that will stick in place and form a moisture barrier. You've seen how water balls up on a just waxed car haven't ya?

nrgetik
February 13, 2009, 04:08 PM
Any insight on the VCI sock?

fireman 9731
February 13, 2009, 05:18 PM
I have a few Remington silicon socks and they work very well, Remington also recently came out with a VCI impregnated rag. Just wipe your guns down with it before storage. It has worked pretty well for me.

nrgetik
February 13, 2009, 06:10 PM
Great, thanks!

BFE
February 13, 2009, 06:33 PM
Eezox is the best going it this time.

carbine85
February 13, 2009, 06:38 PM
I use a product called RIG. I have my fathers 60 year old 30 30 stored with it for the last 10 years. The film is still on it and no rust. It's the best stuff around. It's still there after some handling.

Horsemany
February 13, 2009, 07:10 PM
Eezox is excellent stuff. Unfortunately it's extremely toxic compared to other similar products. RIG has gone out of business as of last year.

red_metallic
February 13, 2009, 10:39 PM
I bought a roll of VCI paper and have had zero corrosion on anything in it. The most extreme is a polished & blued gun I keep in my garage. Two winters in the teens & two summers in the 90's & humid has made me a believer in it. No cleaning either, the corrosion inhibitor feels like a light oil coating.

gga357
February 14, 2009, 01:18 AM
+1 corrosion X you can get it at any True Value. If they don't have it in stock they can order you one can. Great stuff.

gga357
February 14, 2009, 01:20 AM
Remember to wipe down the Corrosion X you only need a little bit.

DWH
February 14, 2009, 03:08 PM
Eezox is excellent stuff. Unfortunately it's extremely toxic compared to other similar products.

Can you please elaborate on the toxicity of Eezox?

C5Cruiser
February 14, 2009, 03:25 PM
A little light gun oil after handling them is my best bet.

Horsemany
February 14, 2009, 03:46 PM
Eezox is excellent stuff. Unfortunately it's extremely toxic compared to other similar products.

Can you please elaborate on the toxicity of Eezox?

Trichlorothylene. Look it up. Eezox has a bunch of it. And it's one of the only gun care products I own that gives me a headache. I didn't invent the idea and Eezox is a hell of a product. I've tested it. But if you read around I'm not the first guy to say it's a little nastier than most other lubes/preservatives that do the same thing. For instance Corrosion-X works just as good in my rusts tests and is non-toxic. I like Eezox as a product but rarely use it anymore.

Prion
February 14, 2009, 08:21 PM
Another good idea is to maintain a fairly constant temperature wherever your guns are stored. It is not just humidity but extreme temperature fluctuations that causes water to condense. Think of your gun after a chilly night like a cold drink on a hot day, water condensing all over it. This is why you still get rust in the desert even though it is so dry, really cold at night followed by rapid warming when the sun rises. Or something like that.

benEzra
February 14, 2009, 09:31 PM
http://www.boeshield.com/t91.jpg
http://www.boeshield.com/

Boeshield is available at West Marine and other boat-supply stores; I use it in humid eastern NC, and can vouch for it.

Corrosion-X is also very good, and they make a cleaner/lubricant specifically for guns, it looks like:

http://www.corrosionx.com/gun_use.html

FMJMIKE
February 15, 2009, 09:51 PM
+1 for Corrosion-X...........:D

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