Aguila 60 grain SSS ammo,


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husker
February 11, 2009, 10:27 PM
Aguila 60 grain SSS ammo, iv never herd of such an ammo. would like a little info on it f.p.s ect

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1858rem
February 11, 2009, 10:35 PM
iv never herd of suck an ammo

^^what?^^

http://www.silencerresearch.com/aguila_sss.htm

about 850-950fps

rangerruck
February 11, 2009, 10:44 PM
it is a solid lead-chunk of bullet, that is stacked up in a 22 short case. Most rifles cannot shoot it, either the semi's can't handle the extreme short case, becuase the long lead bullet hangs up, or they can't eject. not enough oomph.
bolties can handle them no probs, but the problem is this; bbl twist. Most bbls do not have the right twist to shoot these at all, i mean instant keyhole when they leave the bbl. I have seen them put keyhole marks in paper, at 25 yds.
You can get custom bbls to shoot them, or you can get lucky, and find a rifle that shoots them well. For instance, the old remmy's with the floating chambers, or the ones designed to shoot short, long, long rifle, will do it.
I have a remmy speedmaster, that puts them in the same hole, at 50 yds.
the great thing about this round is the downrange ballistics; since it is under 1000fps, it does not suffer '22 drag syndrome', the way other 22 rounds do, that are supersonic. And since it is a full 60 grain monster, it really take s along time to slow down, if you hit something with this round, you will hear a serious 'WHACHHKKK' when contact is made.
The trick is finding a rifle that will shoot it...

husker
February 11, 2009, 10:46 PM
i see. thats a big old bullet for a 22. dosent sound like you would want to shoot it out of your every day run of the mill 22. thanks 1858 for the feed back. you to ranger.

jester_s1
February 11, 2009, 10:56 PM
The round was developed for a short barreled semi auto tactical rifle. It had a suppressor on it, was nearly silent, deadly accurate, and still only weighed about 4 pounds. It was made for shooting out cameras, lights, tires and such to prepare for entries. I don't think the gun ever caught on but the round has stayed with us.

husker
February 11, 2009, 11:09 PM
i bought a henry youth lever action im going to try this ammo in it. it says it will eat short ,long, and LR

1858rem
February 11, 2009, 11:10 PM
I have a remmy speedmaster, that puts them in the same hole, at 50 yds.

you gonna get in on the feb rimfire match with that rifle?:D

husker
February 11, 2009, 11:12 PM
had not thought about that.tell me more

1858rem
February 11, 2009, 11:17 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=426068

pretty fun give it a 'shot'

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 11, 2009, 11:32 PM
It is known to work well from a 1 in 9" twist AR15 bbl with an AR conversion kit, but it won't cycle particularly well - it jams about 1 out of 4 rounds.

I have a remmy speedmaster, that puts them in the same hole, at 50 yds.

That's interesting; I don't disbelieve that, but I wonder how that can be. It would be interesting to know if that's a quirk, or if there are other people with speedmasters who can also shoot these. Is that a 24" bbl on the speedmaster?

1858rem
February 11, 2009, 11:34 PM
once you shoot about 50 rounds at the same spot the hole is not so hard to miss:p

husker
February 11, 2009, 11:40 PM
thanks i will try it. it looks like theirs some real shooters out their. id like to see one in the future on B-P six shooters. but ill give it a go and see what these old eyes have left in them. PS i want to say to the people of Oklahoma my thought and prayers are with you. my friend lost his son at the boyscout camp at little sioux iowa last spring.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 11, 2009, 11:44 PM
Yeah, that poor little town of Lone Grove had 100 homes wiped out from a long-trek F4. Eight dead. Devastation. Worst February tornado outbreak ever in OK; 7th deadliest tornado on record in state history. My thoughts are with the Lone Grove folks, too.

my friend lost his son at the boyscout camp at little sioux iowa last spring.

I remember that very well - quite a horrible thing, too, to hit boy scouts of all things.

husker
February 11, 2009, 11:53 PM
ya its so F-in sad. my friend and his son were joined at the hip. every time i hear it thunder now it brings me down and back to last spring. i used to love to listen to the storms roll through nebraska

rangerruck
February 12, 2009, 02:50 AM
I've never measured it, but I think it is a 22 inch. It will shoot out of that henry, but becuase it's going to be much shorter, the round will proly have to make a 'jump' to the lands, and this will proly kill the accuracy. I have never tried to shoot the remmy in a match; might have to give that a go.
Also, becuase the old remmy's had chambers , where the bolt could close up on the shorter rounds, to get them further in, or the floating chambers, you were also not left with another problem; that is, if you fire a bunch of shorts through a chamber meant for longs, you will start to leave a carbon ring buildup, further up towards the bolt. This could make your lr rounds feel like you are shoving them in there, and may be tough to extract as well. In a semi, you may get lr rounds not be seated all the way in, and your rifle might not fire.
So you will have to clean out that carbon ring.

Dookie
February 12, 2009, 04:21 AM
the SSS needs a long barrel and a fast twist. think of a muzzle loader. big heave chunk of lead at fairly low speeds. 1:9 and 1:12 seem to do nicely.

Deus Machina
February 12, 2009, 04:52 AM
FWIW my Henry lever-action likes them a bit better than bulk stuff and as much or better than Remington 'target' which, frankly, performs only like mid-grade standard velocity stuff. Anyone know the twist rate, offhand? Curious now.

And my Ruger Mk3 22/45 pistol shoots them fine, but seems a little sluggish. Think of the difference between .45 and 9mm, in minuscule form.

paochow
February 12, 2009, 08:37 AM
I did some informal phone book testing and these 60gr SSS rounds had roughly double the page penetration of speedier rounds like Stingers and Velocitors. They are a bit quieter than a HV .22 round as well, but no where near as quiet as their colbri/super colbris.

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