[Diesle]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98890,00.html


This seems irresponsable. Particularly in a culture that is so seemingly gun phobic....



Diesle

[Chaz]

Darwin would be proud.

[Skunkabilly]

So is it impossible, or only difficult, to get a handgun there? :confused:

[cslinger]

I agree that it is irresponsible and that copycat idjits all over the place will probably blow their heads off with a "real" gun.

As for the TV show and the guy who is a and I quote. "a self-styled "psychological illusionist." He will never be in any real danger. It is a gag, a stunt and illusion. See Pen and Teller, See Copperfield etc.

Sure there will be a lag in the show in case he blows his brains out....right. It's magic and people having been "cheating" death for a thousand years with it.

Personally I would like to see him do it with a real gun loaded with some kind of simunitions and a nice thick helmet. Not tricks, no illusions just to see just how psychic are guy really is. I don't want to see him really blow his brains out but some type of simunition should work.

Chris

[C.R.Sam]

Use a Glock.
Short show.

Sam

[cslinger]

Don't laugh Sam, many years ago in Baltimore somebody was killed playing Russian Roulette with a semi auto.

Hey I'll play...............you go first.

[Sunray]

"...Particularly in a culture that is so seemingly gun phobic..." The Brits aren't phobic. Their government is trying to look like they're doing something about all the terrs they let into the country. Shooting is a very popular sport over there, but the populace keeps electing socialist/liberal governents who think they know more about what's good for the people than the people do.

[Mad Man]

Use a Glock.
Short show.


Wouldn't your chances of surviving Russian Roulette with a Glock be better than with a revolver?

When it comes to the odds of a gun pointed at my head having a loaded chamber, I'll take 1-in-17 over 1-in-6 any day.

[cslinger]

Wouldn't your chances of surviving Russian Roulette with a Glock be better than with a revolver

No because the round in chambered no matter what. For example you rack the slide a round gets chambered no matter what, you pull the trigger and you are dead.

I guess you could theoretically do this with 16 snap caps but the gist is that semi autos don't exactly work for RR.

[Keith]

When it comes to the odds of a gun pointed at my head having a loaded chamber, I'll take 1-in-17 over 1-in-6 any day.


..... Please tell me you don't own a gun and that you are just here to learn before buying one!

Keith

[jsalcedo]

This is an illusion folks.

There will be no real cartridge loaded into a chamber. They use trickery or slight of hand to convince the audience that there is actual danger to the actor.

Magicians have been doing this for years banking on people's overall ignorance of firearms.

[Cacique500]

When it comes to the odds of a gun pointed at my head having a loaded chamber, I'll take 1-in-17 over 1-in-6 any day.

Erm... :scrutiny: Ok, but YOU go FIRST

[MagKnightX]

When it comes to the odds of a gun pointed at my head having a loaded chamber, I'll take 1-in-17 over 1-in-6 any day.

I would too, but with a semi-auto, it's really more like 1-in-1, although I suppose it could be 1-in-1.00001, considering the possibilities of FTFs. Still not good odds, though.

[RustyHammer]

Sam,

I was going to offer him my Colt 1911 to use, but you're Glock is a better idea. Let you clean it after he's done!

Rusty

[Keith]

Go easy now!

This is an opportunity to educate a newby.

Keith

[son of a gun]

May be they could air the "Deer Hunter" movie before the show.:what:

[Skunkabilly]

Use a Glock.
Short show.


"It's ok...the safety's on" :D

[Bigjake]

maybe it will encourage other idiots to follow suit. little cholorine to the gene pool couldn't hurt..

[Standing Wolf]

Brown said the show won't glamorize gun violence.

Just stupidity.

[Mike Irwin]

Yep. It's called the Darwin Potential.

The potential for whether Darwin will be again proved correct that the fittest do indeed survive.

If the in*duh*vidual can actually sense in which chamber the cartridge is by the change in balance in the gun, they he obviously has the more highly refined senses that will allow him to propser.

If he blows his brains out, obviously he didn't, and he just did the equivilent of "failing to hear/see the tiger that's up the tree..."

[mussi]

Geee....I though even Britons were smarter than this (if it's not a fake).

I'm slowly getting ashamed to be European, but then, Switzerland hasn't had the honor to get BSE by joining the European Union yet.

[Apple a Day]

I think most people are missing the point they are trying to get across here: LOOK OUT, IT'S A SCARY GUN THAT COULD KILL THIS GUY AT ANY SECOND!!! Only solders, cops, and magicians can touch a gun and live to tell the awful tale!
A magician's schtick is to defy the laws of physics- disappearing, levitating, and such. This guy is going to touch a gun AND NOT DIE! Amazing... and it reinforces the stereotypes.
Pure propaganda. :banghead:

[jsalcedo]

This guy is going to touch a gun AND NOT DIE!

Holy crap! I must be Houdini, Copperfield and Rasputin all rolled into one.

I had better stop touching guns and take up Cobra wrangling

[Mark Tyson]

Wouldn't your chances of surviving Russian Roulette with a Glock be better than with a revolver?
When it comes to the odds of a gun pointed at my head having a loaded chamber, I'll take 1-in-17 over 1-in-6 any day.

Please tell me that's a joke.:uhoh:

http://home.gci.net/~sajohnson/akghetto/forums/avatars/simpsons_homer_gun.gif

[Double Naught Spy]

If y'all take a little time to read the article from the link a little more closely, it does NOT say the guy will be in GB, only that it will be broadcast on British TV. So until we learn otherwise, there is no reason to assume this is some big political joke about guns and British law. They do still allow guns on TV there with no problem.

The guy is an illusionist. He isn't going to die. The act will be well planned and contrary to what the viewers may know, the illusionist will know more.

Hell, I saw Penn and Teller shoot each other in the mouths with .357 mag rounds on which audience members had written text and pictures to prove the projectiles were actually shot from one gun into the mouth of the other mmagician. Magically, it worked, neither died, and neither had any dental problems. Fun stunt, but not real.

[Orthonym]

Surely some of you have seen their "bullet catch" trick on TV. They don't pretend any mystical, magical nonsense; they state up front that they are liars and tricksters amusing you with an illusion! They are also very careful to say, "Don't try this at home, boys and girls!"

[WAGCEVP]

copycats coming???????????????

[Kevlarman]

Well if you've got Rally Vincent on your side, your odds may be a little better. :D
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=520673

[HeavyHaul]

Um, what's a "348 Smith & Wesson" ? Never heard of it. I've heard of, and shot, a 348 Win., but I am NOT shooting that one out of a revolver. A Contender with a bull bbl maybe.

[BluesBear]

Wowsers. Anime gals got left-handed Colt Detective Specials?

I bet even Tamara doesn't have one of those. (yet)

;)

[BluesBear]

The show will air on a several-second delay in case Brown shoots himself. If that happens, viewers will not see the gun fire into his head. Instead, the screen will go blank and display a message advising viewers what's happened.

Well at least there's hope.

Why not just black out the screen and leave the audio feed live.

{sound} BOOM! thud ...... "Kids, NEVER point a gun at anything you don't wish to destroy." Then show the body on the floor. "Treat ALL guns as if they're loaded."

That would make a great commercial for safe gun handling.

Of course they have no need for the delay. Nothing will happen to the "dillusionist". But I guess there are a lot of folks that will think that it's real. After all there are still people that think Professional Wrestling is real.

[asdaf]

Russian Roulette with a glock works just fine. Just make sure that before you insert the magazine you have shaken it really well.

[Grey54956]

Just a quick note on the manga comic there. The revolver isn't a left handed version. Instead, the page has been reversed. The Japanese read their comics from right to left and down, instead of the left to right and down format the we here in the US take for granted. So, when one of their comics is introduced here, the page gets flipped so we can make sense of it. Then some of the art is retouched, i.e. fine details on the gun, like text and numbers and such. Then the comic text is translated and retouched. This is why most mangas that you get here in the US have characters who seem to be invariably left-handed. Also, samurai comics frequently appear with swords worn on the wrong side, which is pretty disgraceful, but it is easier than reading from right to left.

[Diesle]

Its is obviously an illusion and not 'real'. I am 100% convinced that at no time is the guy actually in danger of shooting himself. Just as Pen and Teller are never in danger. Though, Sigfried and Roy are likely in danger.... but not of shooting themselves... with a gun anyhow...

Its a blatant example of poor gun handling. On top of that, it is a 'reality' senaio. Not like a movie that from the outset is known to be fiction.

I know you cant protect every idiot..... but my gut telling me that this is not putting the best foot forward.


Diesle

[Keith]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=573&e=4&u=/nm/20031003/od_nm/odd_britain_roulette_dc

LONDON (Reuters) - British police on Thursday condemned plans for a live television broadcast of a magician playing Russian roulette, saying the stunt would glamorize guns and could lead to deadly copycats.

Wouldn't "copycats" be a good thing, in the Darwinian sense?

Keith

[Matt G]

But it has a Colt latch!

Funny thing-- if it is a Dick Special, like it looks like, than the comic was originally drawn wrong, with the cylinder rotating counterclockwise. But now, with it reversed, the cartridge is in the correct "last shot" position for the Colt clockwise rotation.