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husker
February 13, 2009, 05:09 PM
do they make see through s for the ruger ranch?

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rcmodel
February 13, 2009, 05:11 PM
Who knows, but they suck if they do.

You can't get a good cheek-weld with your head up wobbling around looking through a scope mounted that high.

rc

saturno_v
February 13, 2009, 05:19 PM
Some people love them some people hate them...opinions vary....

Walkalong
February 13, 2009, 05:29 PM
Who knows, but they suck if they do.
Agreed.

I have never seen any Ruger style see through rings anyway. I guess you could drill a big hole in some "high" Ruger rings.

husker
February 13, 2009, 05:35 PM
how bought this. the rings are dove tailed to fit in the frame would it hold zero if you just took it off and then put on. or is there after market parts for just this thing.yoty hunting i want the scope. burnen up paper i dont want the scope. or maybe im just insane

gvnwst
February 13, 2009, 05:43 PM
I dislike them also. My brother had raised rings on his marlin 336, and a fixed paralex scope. He missed getting 5 deer that season (EVERY ONE) because he had to hold his head somewhere in midair, and his eye was off. he did hit two of them, but they were not lethal shots. He could not see them with the irons, because they were too far away...

husker
February 13, 2009, 05:50 PM
i have them on a mohawk 600 and 10-22 i have no probs at all. mohawks downed several coys on the run before. out past a 100yrds + i thought it was more important to have good cheaking with open sights. not so much for a scope. just what iv benn told in the past. PS i hate theaves. hoe you find the man or kid that did ya

husker
February 13, 2009, 07:39 PM
does anybody but me use them it dosent sound like it

Gaiudo
February 13, 2009, 07:41 PM
My brother has them for the Ruger Ranch.... or HAD them. Basically, you can't get a decent cheek weld against the stock, so your head has to bob around in the air looking for that reticle. I'd pass on them, personally. But they are indeed out there.... shoot, you could HAVE my brother's, if I dig them up somewhere...

husker
February 13, 2009, 07:44 PM
id really like to no if they make a quick change scope system that will hold zero after you take off and put the scope back on your rifle. see throughs arnt on the ruger web site

redneck2
February 13, 2009, 07:48 PM
Some people love them some people hate them...opinions vary....

Opinions only vary by guys that have never used them. Worse than useless IMO.

Some company used to make swing away mounts. Haven't seen them in a long time, so they must have been crap too.

If you really want to use scope/irons, I'd suggest Leupold or Burris QD rings. They hold to 1" if removed and reinstalled. Also, get a GOOD lower power scope to you don't have to mess with it. Something like maybe a 1.5x6. That is what I use on my ML. I've used that combo to take maybe 30-40 deer. Lost count after about 20 years.

cal74
February 13, 2009, 09:25 PM
+1 on the QD Leupold Mounts

I'm not a fan of see through mounts either, BUT on my Model 100 I inherited from my grandfather there's a see through mount by Marble's "Game Getter"

Very low profile that does still allow use of the sites without drastically increasing the scope height. Really doesn't add any more height to the scope than a set of high rings would.

That gun is a pre-64 in .308 and while the trigger has a lot of creep and is heavy it will shoot 1" groups all day long using that mount and an oooold Weaver 1.5-4 power scope.

There's still a few of these mounts of feebay, here' a not so good picture of one mounted I just found googling
http://www.gunsamerica.com/970986694/Guns/Rifles/Browning-Rifles/Semi-Auto/Hunting/Browning_BAR_Belgium_30_0.htm

usmc1371
February 14, 2009, 01:43 AM
I have leupold QD rings on my ar and they work fine, the rifle is a half MOA gun any day of the week and the one time I had the scope off it went back on with no noticable change in POI.

husker
February 14, 2009, 01:47 AM
ya it sounds like the QDs are the way to go

JWarren
February 14, 2009, 06:16 AM
I don't know. They are not as bad as all of that.

I've sighted in my father's Remington 7400 that has see-through rings on it for years. I've never had a problem making good shots with it.

And I have Weaver see-through rings on my Ruger 10/22. Again, it's never been a problem for me.

See-through rings aren't my favorite, but they are doable.


-- John

redneck2
February 14, 2009, 07:08 AM
See-through rings aren't my favorite, but they are doable.

They are "doable" at the target range under bright daylight at paper targets. In the woods at an overcast dawn they are impossible to use, especially if the deer is moving through the trees.

JWarren
February 14, 2009, 07:15 AM
They are "doable" at the target range under bright daylight at paper targets. In the woods at an overcast dawn they are impossible to use, especially if the deer is moving through the trees.


Hehe...

I'll tell that to my father... who's been using see-through rings on either a Remington 742 or 7400 for the last 30 years. Hell, I used them on a Remington 700 ADL for about 10 years.

Bear in mind that we are dusk-dawn hunters who hunt in a SWAMP. ;)

Again, not my favorite, but doable. A few dozen deer don't disagree.



-- John

Doug B.
February 14, 2009, 08:20 AM
I purchased a Browning BAR in 30-06 about 30 years ago that had a Marbles "Gamegetter" low profile see through mount. Now has a Redfield 1.5-5 wide angle scope on it. I like it so much I searched high and low for about a year for another to attach to an older Remington model 760 my son inherited from my Father when he passed away. I've harvested a number of deer only because I was able to drop (and not much!) to my open sights after I found my scope iced up while hunting in inclement weather. In my estimation, Marbles made a bad business decision when they discontinued production of this mount. They are now VERY hard to find, and for limited models. My gunsmith, more experienced than most, claims it is the only see-through mount that he knows of that will will truly hold a zero. Thumbs up for "Gamegetter" mounts!

redneck2
February 14, 2009, 12:14 PM
Maybe the ones I had were different. Dunno. All I know is I've tried to use at least three different types. I'll stick with the low power scope. YMMV.

rcmodel
February 14, 2009, 01:12 PM
I fail to understand the desire to have the option of using either sighting system at the same time anyway.

I have owned several rifles for years & years that don't even have open sights on them.

And others with iron sights & scopes that haven't had the scopes removed since they were first mounted & sighted in years ago.

If you have a scope, use it.

rc

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