Mossberg Shotgun owners


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50 Shooter
October 2, 2003, 11:58 AM
For those of that were looking at the 870 CQB thread and wanted a CAR stock for your Shotgun, follow the linky. http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=12416878

It's an adaptor only, you'll have to buy the rest of the stuff. No, it's not mine, just thought I would post it.

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Andrew Wyatt
October 2, 2003, 01:24 PM
hmmm. it looks like they took the simple way out, by not keeping the same relationship between the stock and PG the AR-15 has, and neglecting to put a safety on it to remedy the fact that the safety is obscured by the stock.


Were I to build one, i'd make sure the stock has a trigger blocking safety in a convenient location, preferably an ar-15 type rotary job.

Badger Arms
October 2, 2003, 01:29 PM
Looks pretty. I like the fact that it doesn't try to be an in-line design. I don't own a Mossberg, do they make this for the Remington 870 or the Ithaca 37?

Andrew Wyatt
October 2, 2003, 01:56 PM
closest thing out there is brobee biter's stock adaptor.

Badger Arms
October 2, 2003, 03:06 PM
In case anybody was wondering and are too lazy for the link:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=519550

50 Shooter
October 2, 2003, 05:22 PM
I will say this, I know the guy that makes them and NO he doesn't know that I posted this here. I read the posts on the CQB 870 that were posted and knew he was selling these, so I decided to post it.

He told me that he is working on one for the 870 but didn't know how soon he would be finished.

AW, the safety is still in the same spot, on top of the receiver.

BTW, he's a good guy to deal with, Armalite sells his bipod, bipod adaptor and monopod for the the AR-50. If you need any other proof just ask over at Biggerhammer.

Andrew Wyatt
October 2, 2003, 08:01 PM
AW, the safety is still in the same spot, on top of the receiver.

That's a bad location if you install a PG type stock, because your hand has to reach around the stock to actuate the safety.

Steve Smith
October 2, 2003, 08:45 PM
I know he's your friend and all, but it looks like an unfinished abortion to me.

Badger Arms
October 2, 2003, 09:10 PM
But given the internal workings of the Mossy safety, one could devise a simple safety and place it in the same location relative to the pistol grip as that on an AR-15. In fact, you could use an AR-15 safety to do it... at least it'd look like an AR-15 on the outside. Wouldn't that be the cat's meow!?

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=520387

Badger Arms
October 2, 2003, 09:17 PM
Double-Post

Steve Smith
October 3, 2003, 10:25 AM
Looks like the grip will make access to the slide release quite challenging.

Andrew Wyatt
October 3, 2003, 02:20 PM
you'd have to get to it through the outside of the reciever, though. the rotary safety'd have to operate a linkage arm that actuates the safety.

Badger Arms
October 3, 2003, 03:49 PM
Actually, I'd rather see the Mossy modified. The safety would look really good right above the action release. That way, when the gun was off safety, you would have a difficult time GETTING to the action release. I'm sure the safety-conscious lawyer types would love that. No, I've never heard of anybody killed because they released their slide when the gun was off safe... but who knows!

Andrew Wyatt
October 3, 2003, 04:13 PM
you're not in the majority, though. making a proper stock adaptor for the moss is a real pain in the rear, because of the location of the safety.

50 Shooter
October 5, 2003, 07:38 PM
Here's his reply on another forum to some ???'s

Hello all... I will try to answer all these questions for you.
1. I have fired over 100 rounds on this conversion, with a cheap CAR stock from Tapco. It performed flawlessly.

2. The set screw is used to index the stock and prevent it from turning should the locknut supplied with the stock come loose. It is only a backup, and that tiny little setscrew experiences no loads. It can in fact be removed with no adverse results.

3.The unit itself is made of 7075 aluminum, and hard anodized. it will last as long as the Mossberg reciever made of the same material, probably longer.

4. The cost of the whole unit with pistol grip and Tapco stock is $78. which is less than most folders, and Way less than the COPSTOCK. Although Copstock is a recoil reducer, and I'm sure well worth it's price.

As compared to other CAR adapters like those from Argonaut, and Cavelry Arms mine is BELOW inexpensive. Argonaut starts at $200 for the adapter alone, and they do not have a model for the Mossberg, as their design adds a sight rail which would obscure the safety.

As for the safety, I can acess it with my shooting hand as well as the bolt release lever, but I cannot speak for everybody. Mine is also designed to retain the use of the stock sights.

I deigned this after FN Herstal came out with their tactical shotgun, as an inexpensive way to make a Mossberg look really cool. Since I used a CNC machine to do it, It was a no brainer to offer them for sale. The Remington model was offered because those I talked to about it wanted them for their Remingtons. Another shooter that shoots .50 cals with us loaned me his 870, and it took less than an hour to adapt the program.

The reason I am adding this info is to explain why these cost only $40. It took less than 5 hours total programming, my machinist can make them in less than 10 minutes each, some sandblasting sending off for Anodizing, adding the 3 included screws, placing in plastic wrap and you have a finished product. Everything good does not need to be expensive.

There is no web page, feel free to contact me directly at dlprince1@aol.com

Thanks for reading.

Darin out

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