How do you keep track of your loads?
recklessone
February 15, 2009, 12:16 AM
im new to the form and to reloading, but I was just trying to get a feel for how yall keep trak of what ya loaded. Do you just mark the box of ammo, log is somewhere, keep a database? I was considering a computersed database at least till I get the loads that I like and work good in my guns.
Look forward to your responce
Patrick
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possum
February 15, 2009, 12:30 AM
over time i have come up with certain loads that i use all the time. so i know if i have a box of 180gr lead then i know it is loaded with 4.0gr of bullseye, and oal of 1.120, wolf primers, etc.
when i do come up with new loads that i want to test i just use 100mph tape and label the top of the box. then i have a green notbook that i keep all my loading data in that i am gonna keep and maybe use in the future.
i also back that up with a word document on my computer.
welcome to thr.
parisite
February 15, 2009, 12:32 AM
I just write down the load of a particular batch on a small piece of paper and scotch tape it on the box or sometimes I put my ammo in a ziplock baggie and write the info on the baggie with a marksalot.
I hope that was the question you were asking.
ReloaderFred
February 15, 2009, 12:34 AM
Since I've had a couple of computer crashes where I've lost everything, I do it the old fashioned way, with a couple of 3 ring binders. Lyman sells a book with data pages, so I copied them on both sides and use one binder for rifle and one for pistol. I load 29 different calibers, so it would be rather difficult to remember all the loads, which is why I keep good records.
I label each and every box with labels I make on my computer. I list the bullet, powder charge, primer and lot number, over all length and the date I loaded them. By using small font, I can use the 1/2" x 1 3/4" return address labels for most boxes. For some, I'll use the 1" x 2 5/8" address labels. It works really well for me.
Hope this helps.
Fred
possum
February 15, 2009, 12:34 AM
oh yeah i almost forgot about the ziplock bags, great point, i did that also when i was working up new loads, or loads that i wanted to try out, and slip a piece of paper in there with the info, and then use my notebook to take notes on the load while at the range, if it makes the cut then that is a load that i will use for then on and then that will go in my reloading book if not i go on without it.
bensdad
February 15, 2009, 12:38 AM
I have a file holder thing-a-majig on the bottom shelf in the batcave. Spiral notebook holds two calibers - one starts in the front and one in the back. I write down everything that matters (COL, powder and weight, primer, bullet weight/type. Leave a little space to write anything important after shooting, such as failures, pressure indications, accuracy, etc. It takes no time at all to come up with a few go-to loads. I can reload 9mm, 45acp, and 40s&w w/o looking in the book. I look anyway. ;)
ETA: I've never written down a lot number for powder. I suppose I should. It wouldn't take much of a quality control problem at Reliant for Rob to have a very bad day at the range.
recklessone
February 15, 2009, 12:45 AM
Thats what I was looking for. I was thinking of making a acess database that was maintained on my server. with the basic what powder what primer which weight and type of bullet and amount of powder used. I will be loading 4 calibers to start with forr my friends and I to shoot so it will be a few different loads for different friends choise load. as they will be buing the supplies.
ArchAngelCD
February 15, 2009, 12:52 AM
I also use a made up data sheet to record everything I do and then store them in 3 ring binders. You will find over the years your load data will be the best source of all.
Welcome to the forum and reloading. You have the right idea wanting to keep records of what you're doing. Have fun and be safe.
bensdad
February 15, 2009, 12:59 AM
To the OP:
Check out some threads (or start one of your own) about letting other people shoot your reloads. Many experienced reloaders won't do it. Think about the possible liability.
Dean Williams
February 15, 2009, 01:02 AM
I use a spiral bound note book. Each load has a unique number that I write on the ammo box. Each page is numbered and has 10 munbered lines for loads, so if I am making up a load from page 9, line 6, I mark the cartridge box 9-6.
I include bullet maker/weight, powder maker/weight, case maker, primer, OAL, and have a line beneath that info for remarks about group size and other notables.
When working up a load, I usually make 10 rounds and put them in a zip lock bag with all the info and load number written on it with a Sharpie.
ArchAngelCD
February 15, 2009, 02:00 AM
I agree with "bensdad", you might not want to reload ammo for others. If you want to be a good friend and help them out have them come over and let them use your press, but let them pull the lever.
recklessone
February 15, 2009, 02:05 AM
good advice no matter who loads the ammo I will still be keeping track of what was loaded.
c.r.a.
February 15, 2009, 02:48 AM
recklessone, I have been trying to figure out how to organize my reloading notes myself. I'm new to reloading as well and I currently load for three cartridges (.357, 44mag, and 45Colt)
Here is what I am thinking, (this isn't so much as what data I collect, but how it is organized/maintained)
Have one three ring binder for each caliber.
W/in each binder have tabs labeled with the bullet weight that i load.
w/in those tabs have tabs for each powder i used.
then within that tab i will have the individual notes for each load containing data from the range, the details of the load, date, name of load etc.... and keep the detailed notes in chronological order.
The individual notes would be able to stand on their own, as they would have all data related to that load. However, by organizing my notes this way, I think it will be easier to retrieve the data rather than just flipping through a single binder, spreadsheet or data base.
~c.r.
cliffy
February 15, 2009, 03:36 AM
I use a Chronograph on all my range work. I keep all records on my computilator "A" drive floppies, call me old-fashioned, but I always have results at hand when I want to accellerate my velocities. Temperature, Barometric Pressure, and Humidity all enter into my load data. I've settled upon the best powder choices for my general shooting requirements. Using a chronograph is the PRIMARY way to know what I'm doing. Exploding a sand birm into a mushroom cloud is my standard for perfecting what will work well afield. Real World Results always follow suite! cliffy
RDA 226sig
February 15, 2009, 06:32 AM
I use stick-on labels to mark the bullets; caliber, powder, bullet, date, charge weight, and firearm. All of my loading records are kept on a spreadsheet that I set up. I track everything that is on the label and also add notes with regard to OAL and anything that may have a bearing on the set-up if I am reproducing the load.
interlock
February 15, 2009, 06:33 AM
I have an excel spreadsheet with my loads on and i print avery address labels with all the data on and stick it on the box.
Red_Dog_Leader
February 15, 2009, 07:36 AM
Separate Word .docs for all calipers. On PC and backed up to USB thumb drive.
Print out of Word .docs to binder.
Use small 3M post-its, write on glue side, stick on underside of box lid.
Peter M. Eick
February 15, 2009, 09:21 AM
I serial number every box and then tie the serial number to an excel spreadsheet that list the facts for the load. I also write the facts on the serial number sheet on the box of ammo. Finally I have word docs that tie what I was trying to accomplish to each load.
MMCSRET
February 15, 2009, 09:40 AM
For the first 10 years I just labeled the box and then lost it or damaged it and was generally confused by it all, if the ammo went bang I was satisfied. Then about 1967 or so I got a recipe box and the index cards and lined 3X5 cards and set up a record system and standardized it as time went on. I keep the cards and make notes on them, that way I'm not repeating my mistakes and I never discard my cards, even if I trade away the gun. In this day and age a computer is the way to go but my system works for me and I'm not good with the computer so I stick with the cards and good labeling.
jcwit
February 15, 2009, 09:54 AM
MMCSRET you took the words right out of my mouth. I also use a 2nd 3x5 card system to keep my gun collection in, in addition to logbooks for different types of arms.
Walkalong
February 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
I use an Excel log I made. I back it up on two different external drives after every change. I also print out each new page and put it in a three ring binder.
Lucky Strike
February 15, 2009, 11:19 AM
ammo goes in a ziplock baggie with a piece of paper with a number on it. I just name my loads sequentially so I have a notebook with a page for each number with the load data and notes on how they performed when shooting.
Currently only on load #3 (just started this month) but i think this setup will work for me. I'll likely eventually transfer the info to an excel file.
robctwo
February 15, 2009, 11:24 AM
Excel spread sheet. I run the sheet chronologically and keep a running total. I'm over 110,000 at this point. Stick on labels for the boxes. I have copied info on some calibers and started a separate sheet for them, less scrolling.92763
Walkalong
February 15, 2009, 11:25 AM
I have copied info on some calibers and started a separate sheet for them, less scrolling.Yep. :)
SciFiJim
February 15, 2009, 11:45 AM
I just found this last night on another forum. It's called Point Blank. It looked intimidating a first because I am new at this, but, spending a few minutes with it makes it appear easier to work with. It looks like I will be using this for my data storage. You can print a data sheet for each load for storage in a binder. I would like it to be able to print pertinent info on mailing sized labels for range trips (maybe in a future version - who knows):) Also dear to every reloaders heart , it's FREE! :D
http://www.huntingnut.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3
pmeisel
February 15, 2009, 12:00 PM
I write the load info on the back of a business card and put it in the ammo box. I also make notes in the margins of my reloading manuals.
The Bushmaster
February 15, 2009, 12:21 PM
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scrat
February 15, 2009, 12:47 PM
note pad and paper. Then on the sides of the brass i use a sharpie to put on some of them. So i can quickly identify and track results
oneounceload
February 15, 2009, 01:08 PM
paper and pen in either the plastic ammo boxes or the zip-lock baggie; results transferred to hard-bound books
warnerwh
February 15, 2009, 01:08 PM
I write down load and date on targets with a group on it. Then they go in a peachee.
matrem
February 15, 2009, 03:06 PM
Yellow Scotch 35 electrical tape & a Sharpie marker on the top of the plastic ammo box.
On occasion,if some "odd" loads are to go in same box ( range or hunting trip) , different color Sharpies on the primers will let me ID which is which.
All loads go on paper..I don't trust "puters"
CSA 357
February 15, 2009, 05:04 PM
I bag all my ammo after its loaded with the load written on the out side, i highlight my loads in my book, most of my loads are the same time after time, after i work up a load i like, i have a set load for my plinking loads, and my hot loads, csa
LCTitan
February 15, 2009, 07:21 PM
I created a spreadsheet in MS Excell that I back up to a memory stick. Works great and can be printed out at any time.
Wayne02
February 15, 2009, 11:19 PM
Good discussion. I've not settled on a good system yet and run a hybrid computer and hard-copy deal at this point.
One thing that is kind of annoying:
1. If I don't write down the data/observations right there at the range I will sure as heck forget it by the time I finally get around to documenting anything. So this means either writing the load observations in a notebook or dragging the blasted laptop along, firing it up, and typing in the notes. I'm reluctant in bringing the laptop along as it already feels like I take everything but the kitchen sink on range trips, and part of the reason I go to range is to get away from dang computers. :)
If I write the observations in the notebook at the range and don't transfer that to the computer files when I get home there is the opportunity for duplicate and possibly confusing records between the two.
Cascades
February 15, 2009, 11:41 PM
While working up a load, I use small pieces of paper--one on the bench in the "Working Load" box, and another piece of paper that goes into the container with the cartridges. (Those baggies are a good idea.)
Once I determine the best load, pertinent information is noted on a 3x5 card and indexed in a recipe box. That box stays on my reloading bench. When loading for that cartridge, even if I know the specifics, I still put the card on top of the box where I can check it at ease.
Every box of cartridges is labeled--sticker on the box. When one walks into my cartridge storeroom, each load label is visible. I have sons, and enough cartridges that could cause problems if used in the incorrect firearm. The Boys are very good about checking everything--I'm thinking the system helps toward avoiding mistakes.
The reloading charts I've printed from the internet are indexed in a notebook. Surely helps in not shuffling and looking through papers. That notebook lives beside my loading manuals.
Had the idea last week to include my 3x5 information in the notebook, but haven't decided yet on a simple way to present it.
The methods the others have offered are fine also.
Shootingbuff2
February 16, 2009, 01:37 PM
shoot em before I forget ;-)
Actually I only have one load per caliber I load for with a given bullet and in ref to SG I use diff colored hulls to keep everything straight.
You can make up your own labels or purchase them pre printed.
I have a small notepad, a box for index cards and a spreadsheet I log the loads into for historical data more than anything else when I am trying a new load.
When trying a new load as others have stated drop the rounds in a ziplock bag and place a note inside.
sb
Gewehr98
February 16, 2009, 03:29 PM
You're all more than welcome to try it:
http://mauser98.com/db21.zip
(Zipped for easier download...)
Hikingman
February 16, 2009, 08:52 PM
1. Book with pages filled out for every recipe load. Any change in powder, amount of charge, type of primer, bullet makes a new entry. A few rounds in experimental loads makes lots of entries.
2. A colored sticker, or taped on piece of paper on ammo box can refer to recipe #, though knowing 'which' load when I insert the mag or spin the cylinder is my preference at the range.
3. Pet (fav) recipes help! :)
rfwobbly
February 16, 2009, 08:56 PM
I use a lab notebook. On each page I list one bullet. Below that I show all the specs I use for that one bullet. Seating depth, OAL, settings, special things I needed or ran into with that bullet.
Then under that, every time I load that bullet the number of rounds and add how they shot when I get back from the range.
SyberShooter
February 16, 2009, 10:32 PM
When I am working up loads I use a black sharpie and mark right on the brass case - either the bullet grains+powder+charge (IE: 55gr23.5A2230) or I just mark a sequence # on each and put the load on a chrono range sheet.
For quanity in boxes or baggies I either write on the box/bag or I assign a code such as 223-55SP235A2230
I also keep an excel spreadsheet with all load data and gun/range/chrono/target results and pictures of each target.
SciFiJim
February 16, 2009, 11:34 PM
SyberShooter, I had not thought to include a picture of the target for each load in the stored info. Good One!
moooose102
February 17, 2009, 08:15 AM
since i am rather absent minded, i do a number of things. 1, i keep a database on the computer. 2, i usually write on each case what the load is, UNLESS i am doing over 100 of them (example: 230g - 9.5g aa#7 -820fps). even though the velocity might not be actual, (i use the info listed in the manual) it will give me a good idea what it is before i shoot. if i am working up a hunting, or serious target load, i chrono them to get an accurate velocity. and 3, i label the box i put them in with the load. i really hate not knowing what i am shooting!
Uncle Chan
February 17, 2009, 08:28 AM
I wrote my own program that I used for development.
jjohnson
February 17, 2009, 11:25 AM
I bought Quickload several years ago (www.neco.com) and it's great.
I bought the software because it'll let you 'model' nearly all powders for charges and calculate pressure, trajectory, velocity... blah blah. It's really powerful software (and I do software for a living). Not too complex to use though.
I used to keep all my loading data in a logbook and assign batch numbers then label all the containers with lot number, so I could figure out what went right or wrong with a given load. I still do that, but since I use Quickload for all my loading data, I use its function to store actual cartridge data.
I guess that means I really should back up my data frequently - my bad, don't do that yet.....
ZXD9
February 17, 2009, 11:41 AM
I keep a log book by my reloading press that indicates date, bullet, powder, load, OAL and qty. I then take an old business card and on the back write the same information and put that in the box of ammo. Then I put the same info into a spreadsheet that contains even more data like loaded ammo inventory and bullet inventory. I do this so that whether I am at my computer, loading press or range, I have all the data I need.
philbo
February 17, 2009, 12:19 PM
Every box of cartridges is labeled--sticker on the box. When one walks into my cartridge storeroom, each load label is visible.
The reloading charts I've printed from the internet are indexed in a notebook.
That notebook lives beside my loading manuals.
Exactly the system I've developed. Notes from shooting sessions are recorded in the notebook.
Master Blaster
February 17, 2009, 12:55 PM
A label the date load powder charge bullet primer number of times case was reloaded, OAL for rifle.
I like all of my reloads labeled, I also track number of reloadings on the Brass.
1858
February 17, 2009, 01:16 PM
I use an Excel log I made. I back it up on two different external drives after every change. I also print out each new page and put it in a three ring binder.
Walkalong, very, very well done and very impressive. I thought I was doing a good job writing everything down in a log book (one for each caliber) but you've inspired me to do better ... MUCH better! That's one of the things I like about this sight ... it really does encourage higher standards ... none of that "lowest common denominator" rubbish that is prevalent in so many aspects of life.
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