Mossberg 500 Road Blocker?!
JimJD
February 17, 2009, 04:55 PM
Just what type of road are they planning on blocking anyway?
In all seriousness though, my friends and I were just talking about this model (and other Mossy's). I think it looks kind of silly. One friend thinks it's hottest thing he's seen in a while. Another is middle of the road. So anyway, my friends and I go to a show recently and see one (I wish I could remember the price). That fracking muzzle brake looked HUGE! Maybe it was me. Maybe it was the heat of the day, I don't know.
Fast forward a few weeks, and new show is coming to town. My friend is stating if he sees it, there's a good chance he'll pick it up. He's just unsure as he hasn't heard a thing about it, or met an owner of one. All his talk has me thinking about this unholy marrage of PG Shotgun and Barrett (type) muzzle brake. Does anyone have first hand experience with this thing? I'm really wondering if the brake works, or if it's a "marketing idea". As weird as it looks, if the brake really reduces recoil I could actually see picking one up if that's the case. But I know I'll feel weird if I do. And My 870 would hate me...
BTW, my friend is interested in having it as a car gun :scrutiny:.
Me? I don't know. Home, car, boat, space capsule, zombie movie.
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Sam1911
February 17, 2009, 07:17 PM
The Road Blocker and the "Rolling Thunder" are cheap, party-favor add-on crap that Mossberg should be ashamed to sell. Honestly, I thought both were lousy photo-chops the first time I saw them. :rolleyes:
This is "last-page-of-Sportsman's-Guide" glue-on accessory crap that a card-carrying Mall Ninja would be ashamed to be seen with ... even in those "special" shots wearing nothing by a tactical speedo and duct-taped ceramic plates. :barf:
As if PGO shotguns didn't already have way-too-high a bark-to-bite ratio (meaning that they are far more LOOKIE than they are useful) these models just shove the whole affair into sort of "Japanime" hyper-lethal ridiculousness that says a lot more about the owner's desperate need for attention than his need for protection.
Joe Camel was accused of being a tool to market cigarettes to kids. In that same vein, Mossberg is now building guns entirely to appeal to the 14-year-old boy market...and they apparently feel pretty certain that the average gun buyer never matured past that point.
But, gee, I guess that's just my opinion! :neener:
-Sam
JimJD
February 17, 2009, 07:33 PM
"last-page-of-Sportsman's-Guide"
Hah!:D
I always liked the lines of the 500 Cruiser (6 & 8 round versions), but have stayed away from PG only shotguns. I love my 870, but sometimes it's a bit large. I like the compactness of the PG only types, but have not shot one. I'm always hearing about the harsh recoil and whatnot.
One must shoot from the hip with a PG only SG, right? I'm not fond with the idea of getting smacked in the face and maybe loosing teeth in the process. :)
22lr
February 17, 2009, 07:35 PM
I think one would be cool, useful well no but still when was the last time the thing at the end of the barrel had to be useful. Id love one on the end of my 12ga rifled barrel.
Sam1911
February 17, 2009, 07:52 PM
I always liked the lines of the 500 Cruiser (6 & 8 round versions), but have stayed away from PG only shotguns. ... I like the compactness of the PG only types, but have not shot one. I'm always hearing about the harsh recoil and whatnot.
One must shoot from the hip with a PG only SG, right? I'm not fond with the idea of getting smacked in the face and maybe loosing teeth in the process.
I owned a 500 A 8-shot Cruiser for about 12 years before converting it to a traditional buttstock. The recoil -- even with slugs -- is far FAR overhyped. You'd think it would tear your arm right off to hear people talk about it. :rolleyes:
And no, you DON'T have to fire it only from the hip. That's a bit of Mossberg covering their A$$ (they do write that in the owner's manual). You just have to have a good hold on it and don't shoot it like a 7-year old Girl Scout with her first .22. Several friends and I bought these back in college and used to shoot clay birds with them occasionally. Even hit some sometimes. The technique was to get the support hand out where it would normally be on a full-butt pump gun and use both hands to soak up the recoil. Target loads helped. The firing hand was brought in line with the eye to try and mirror the standard view down the barrel. It was pretty dumb, and we never broke more than a handful of birds. Sort of mindless fun :), but none of us ever broke their nose doing it, either.
The "correct" shooting method is to tuck your firing hand and the grip of the gun in tight against your side -- NOT your hip -- and you index your whole body towards the target. It isn't all that inaccurate at short range, IF you've practiced a fair amount and know what you're doing.
Even shooting 3-gun and similar games, the usefulness of the PGO set-up is extremely limited. I kept mine as the last-ditch, always-there-but-never-fired home defense gun. Which is fine, but I came to believe that I could do just as well at the home defense thing with a real butt-stock (and probably better) and if it had a full butt, I'd actually practice with it and know what I was doing if I ever HAD to grab it. That's important to me.
-Sam
JShirley
February 17, 2009, 08:00 PM
This (http://www.mossberg.com/images/home/50591.jpg)is close to the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
John
rbernie
February 17, 2009, 10:19 PM
But it's got 'the thingee that goes up'!
;)
JimJD
February 17, 2009, 10:45 PM
Thanks for the info thus far!
JShirley, Yeah... it does look funny. But has anyone owned/tried one yet? It's a burning question with me. Does the darn brake work? Or is it just...there?
The funniest pic I saw was at Gunblast's SHOT Show 2009 coverage page.
It had a BIPOD. A BIPOD I tells ya! I truly hope that was for display purposes.
http://www.gunblast.com/images/SHOT2009/Day1/DSC04853.JPG
http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_2009_1.htm
Grunt
February 18, 2009, 03:17 AM
If you run across one of these things in some poser's hands and NOT laugh right in his face, you're more man than I!
Dirtpile
February 18, 2009, 04:10 AM
PG only isn't bad to shoot at all if you do it right. But the factory grip sucks. It puts all the recoil right into the web of your thumb. The Pachmayer presentation grip is much easier on you since it puts your hand behind the gun instead of under it. It also spreads the recoil and absorbs some too. But alas it's still not useful as an HD weapon without some sort of aiming device (laser or tight beam light) and not nearly as fast as a stocked gun.
CManT1914
February 18, 2009, 09:33 AM
Personally when I saw it I thought it was the MOST ridiculous thing I'd ever seen for a shotgun. To me, it just screams ''look at me, i'm a rambo wanna-be''. As for does it work? I guess if it DOES work, then it has some merit. But honestly, if you're buying the gun for home defense, how many rounds are you gonna fire anyway? I'm betting not more than the 5 or so that they hold, and if you can't handle the recoil from 5 shotgun shells, then maybe a pistol would be a better defense weapon, or a fly swatter lol. But I'm just a function over form kinda guy.
My .02
Allen850
February 19, 2009, 03:20 PM
I just purchased the road blocker today, I havent shot it yet, yes it does look a little silly, but if it will help out on recoil why not, and yes it comes with a bipod ahaha
DocBoCook
February 19, 2009, 03:38 PM
a bipod? who is gonna shoot a PG Mossy with a HD barrel, from a bipod? friggin mall ninjas have infected the manufacturers
NG VI
February 19, 2009, 04:27 PM
Might be neat to replace the pistol grip with a regular or youth stock.
RX-178
February 19, 2009, 04:35 PM
I asked about it at the SHOT Show
Their response was that it was intended as a muzzle brake for semi-auto shotguns, for quicker follow up shots.
My next question: 'Why is it also on the 500?'
Their answer: '...It looks cool, so why not?'
DocBoCook
February 19, 2009, 04:37 PM
I was right. thanks for confirming it RX
mgregg85
February 19, 2009, 04:38 PM
Man thats sweet but wheres the tank they stole the muzzle brake from?
Maybe we could start a little THR betting pool, how long until mossberg mounts one of these babies on a PGO 12ga?
http://tommcmahon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/tanksilencer2.jpg
Given this new developement, the "road blocker", I would like to pick next year's shotshow as my bet.
Maybe they could call it the Mossberg 500 Galaxy Blocker? They could team up with the boys from Extreme Shock!?! and release it with a sample pack of the EXTREME SHOCK INSTANT MURDER DEATH KILL UBER SLUGS(made from compressed anti-matter) .:barf:
DocBoCook
February 19, 2009, 04:48 PM
what is that a pic of ?
PA4476
February 19, 2009, 04:59 PM
What may I ask is that in front of the tank ? Is it some sort of flash hider or something ?
JimJD
February 19, 2009, 06:35 PM
Isn't that a type of "silencer" on the tank?
-v-
February 19, 2009, 06:55 PM
That is a German suppressor for their 155mm artillery pieces, because Germany has some rather draconian laws regarding noise pollution, that even the armed forces have to follow. So, yes, that is a Silencer for a 155mm cannon!
As for the "Roadblocker" Anyone seen the "Rolling Thunder" version? Link, 56k Beware! (http://www.webarms.com/Gun%20Suppliers/Mossberg%20Shotguns/55605.gif) Because the No Country For Old Men/ crowd hasn't been tapped yett.
CManT1914
February 19, 2009, 09:38 PM
Maybe they could call it the Mossberg 500 Galaxy Blocker? They could team up with the boys from Extreme Shock!?! and release it with a sample pack of the EXTREME SHOCK INSTANT MURDER DEATH KILL UBER SLUGS(made from compressed anti-matter) :barf:
this thread just got hilarious! lol
JimJD
February 20, 2009, 03:12 PM
Allen850, get to try out the new SG? Has anyone shot this thing yet?
I was thinking about another product today, those laser and/or light mounts for shotguns from Lasermax. They make them for certain Remington and Benelli models, but I don't see Mossberg listed. One on a PG Mossberg Cruiser could be interesting. Anyone know if there's a similar product? Or a mount to use an existing light, maybe laser?
RX-178
February 20, 2009, 06:55 PM
Mesa Tactical makes a barrel clamp that you can attach a short little bit of picatinny rail to.
It should fit any 12 gauge shotgun.
Friendly, Don't Fire!
February 20, 2009, 07:19 PM
If you can't shoot a 12 gauge without having to use a muzzle break, then gunning is not for you.
Take up Chess or Parcheesi.
jpatterson
February 20, 2009, 11:14 PM
When I first saw it I thought it was a friggin' joke. Silly firearm manufacturers...
mcwjr13
February 20, 2009, 11:36 PM
:DThe bipod is included for blasting zombies from your windows.:D
LoadedDrum
February 21, 2009, 09:10 AM
I am waiting for them to put that on a 930SPX. I will get one, scope it, and pretend I have a Barrett.:neener:
Sam1911
February 21, 2009, 09:19 AM
I will get one, scope it, and pretend I have a Barrett.
Oh GREAT! Now they'll try to ban ".69 Caliber SHORT RANGE sniper guns!"
:D
-S
Friendly, Don't Fire!
February 21, 2009, 03:49 PM
You may find, with the right slugs and a scope that it is a tack driver!
Wouldn't that be fun?
Jack2427
February 21, 2009, 08:57 PM
All I have to say is "Good God". Of course it IS a mall ninja special. Ithaca made a 10 gauge semi auto some years back called the "roadblocker" it was a plain jane 10 gauge semi auto with a 20" barrel, real stock and shot 3.5" mag ammo, and it had rifle sights.
Karl Hungus
February 21, 2009, 08:59 PM
You could probably bludgeon somebody to death with the muzzle brake.
PhiloebeddoUSA
February 23, 2009, 11:52 PM
No one needs any of that crap. You can get a 500 model (persuader I think) for $300 nib on gunbroker, which gives you 7+1 and is chambered for 3". Best of luck.
2ndAmFan
February 24, 2009, 12:24 AM
I have 2 plain vanilla PG pump shotguns with bead front sights; no rear sights at all. One 12 ga and one 20 ga. Never had any problem firing anything out of either of them as far as the "horrendous" recoil I've heard and read about, whether firing from the hip or holding them up to my shoulder so I can sight down the barrel. Both have 18 3/4" smoothbore barrels and my only complaint is that 3" rifled slugs tend to keyhole and be less accurate than 2 3/4" rifled slugs, especially with the 12 ga. Not a major problem since they're HD guns and the first rounds are birdshot, then buckshot, and slugs are the last rounds. I go with what works, and those guns do.
armoredman
February 24, 2009, 01:17 AM
The only road blocker I know is the old Ithica Mag 10 Roadblocker, a 10 gauge of traditional design.
whitefeather
February 24, 2009, 09:58 PM
You can hang a '59 caddy grill on it, but it'll still just be a Mossberg 500.
My 7 yr. old wants to know if there will be an airsoft version.
inSight-NEO
February 24, 2009, 11:22 PM
The Road Blocker and the "Rolling Thunder" are cheap, party-favor add-on crap that Mossberg should be ashamed to sell. Honestly, I thought both were lousy photo-chops the first time I saw them.
This is "last-page-of-Sportsman's-Guide" glue-on accessory crap that a card-carrying Mall Ninja would be ashamed to be seen with ... even in those "special" shots wearing nothing by a tactical speedo and duct-taped ceramic plates.
As if PGO shotguns didn't already have way-too-high a bark-to-bite ratio (meaning that they are far more LOOKIE than they are useful) these models just shove the whole affair into sort of "Japanime" hyper-lethal ridiculousness that says a lot more about the owner's desperate need for attention than his need for protection.
Joe Camel was accused of being a tool to market cigarettes to kids. In that same vein, Mossberg is now building guns entirely to appeal to the 14-year-old boy market...and they apparently feel pretty certain that the average gun buyer never matured past that point.
Now...how do you REALLY feel? ;)
Seriously, the "Road Blocker" is quite the novelty item.
I recently bought a Mossy 590 with, umm, a heat shield installed. Frankly, Im not crazy about the HS (it looks too "military poser" to me), but I can live with it as I didnt buy the thing for looks, but for its various "advantages." But, THIS thing (500 RB) is just too much...waayyy too much.
If I ever saw this on display, I'd probably let out a quiet chuckle or two as I walked on by; all the while saying to myself, "no thanks." :scrutiny:
Hush
February 24, 2009, 11:56 PM
This probably deserves its own thread, and if it gets buried here, ill bring it up again....
Does anyone have any experiance with the Knox stock? Is it blackhawk? A friend at SHOT said it looked very impressive, and not like a gimmick at all. Supposedly its a recoil absorbing pistol grip for a 12ga, that reduces the recoil to almost nothing.
-and yes, a Barrett muzzle brake on anything other than a Barrett is SUPER GAY.
orionhawk
February 25, 2009, 01:05 AM
the Knoxx Stock is indeed now made by BlackHawk. It is VERY effective. I, for one, do find recoil unpleasant from a pistol grip shotgun, or a shoulder stock one. The Knoxx SpecOps model makes it NO problem for me to shoot even Brenneke KO Slugs, or magnum buckshot loads (Mossberg 500a with 3" chamber).
Hush
February 25, 2009, 01:22 AM
He said something about a 95 pound girl shooting 3 1/2 in magnums from a pistol grip...with the grip on her stomach shooting no problem. I find a pistol grip 12ga borderline useless, if by necessity I had to build one for HD or tactical use, mine would be 20ga. Havent seen it in person, so I remain skeptical, but I trust this guy and if he says its impressive....it must be. Ill look into it, I have a variety of 870's....would be nice to have a short one.....now where to find an aftermarket Barrett muzzlebrake?
orionhawk
February 25, 2009, 01:37 AM
the Knoxx website had a vid of a guy shooting a magnum slug from a shouldered gun, with his shoulder backed against a concrete post.
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 26, 2009, 01:26 PM
Wait a minute - am I to understand that the FIRST page of Sportsman's Guide doesn't also sell cheap crap? :scrutiny:
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