anyone take the mag break out of their CZ?


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glassman
February 17, 2009, 07:24 PM
I'm thinking about pulling the mag break out of my compact. I understand why it's there but to my thinking, I would rather have it fall free when a quick reload is needed than to have to pull it free. Have any of you CZ owners done this? Any known ill effects of doing it?

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Pilot
February 17, 2009, 08:31 PM
Don't take out the mag brake permantly. Remove it. Straighten it out and re-install it. No downside to doing this and no ill effects.

burningsquirrels
February 17, 2009, 08:45 PM
straighten it. it's there for a reason.

The Lone Haranguer
February 17, 2009, 09:17 PM
The piece of sheet metal not only is a magazine brake, but an integral part of the well. Removing it entirely leaves exposed sharp corners inside the butt frame that a magazine can catch on. Just straighten the curvature and reinstall it. It may be necessary to remove a bit of metal from one end, as straightening it may make it longer.

On my own PCR compact, this part is already straight and puts no pressure on the magazine, so they fall free of their own weight.

tbtrout
February 17, 2009, 09:42 PM
Straighten it out and leave it in.

rbernie
February 17, 2009, 10:08 PM
By the way, in case you were confused on the advice given above - don't remove it. :)

Remove the grips, push the upper pin for the brake out so that it flops around, use your fingers to take the bend out of the top, and reinstall.

schmeky
February 17, 2009, 10:16 PM
I was going to say straighten it and leave it in, but . . . . . . . .

distra
February 18, 2009, 12:34 AM
I'll go against the grain ;) $10.00 for a straight mag break from Angus http://www.czcustom.com. It works fine my mine. :D

JDGray
February 18, 2009, 05:04 AM
If your finger fits, just push it back, may work without disassembly:)

glassman
February 18, 2009, 06:42 AM
ummmm, I think I'll straighten it and leave it in :rolleyes:. Thanks guys.

Deer Hunter
February 18, 2009, 08:48 AM
I took mine out.

*Gasps!*

:D No harm in it. It was an annoying piece to deal with during disassembly.

Pilot
February 18, 2009, 10:10 AM
Don't take it out. :D

glassman,

Just noticed you're in Springfield. Delco? Born and raised there myself.

burningsquirrels
February 18, 2009, 10:18 AM
just remove the grips and flatten it that way, much easier.

woad_yurt
February 18, 2009, 11:02 AM
I think, civil liability-wise, any liability from a magazine safety removal can never arise unless something bad happened that would not have happened had the mag safety been untouched. This means no access (with or without your permission!) for dummies or kids, at home, range or anywhere, until the gun is put back to original. For example, someone could steal it, get drunk & shoot their buddy with it by mistake while the mag was out and said buddy could file against you. Or, what if said thief picked up the gun (without mag inserted) and shot someone on purpose? He couldn't have done it if the mag safety worked.

Anyone:
Specifically, is it against any law to remove a mag safety here?

Carl N. Brown
February 18, 2009, 11:12 AM
It is not a magazine safety: it is a sheet metal wall of the magazine well that is bent at the factory to hold a magazine in place when the catch is depressed. Which means we have to pull the empty out by hand before inserting a reload., rather than having the mag just drop out when the catch is released.

There are two sides to this: if you don't carry a spare magazine and are hiking in the woods, it might prevent accidental loss of the magazine.

All gun features have their pros and cons. That makes mandatory features required by law so problematical. What might be a good feature for a bedstand gun at home around children (magazine disconnect) might be a bad feature in the deep woods around rabid zombie grizzly bears.

glassman
February 18, 2009, 05:45 PM
I took the mag break out to take the bend out of it and looked to see what would happen if it was left out of the gun. Whoever said it was an integral part was absolutely correct. Without the mag break in place to retain it, the main spring bends at about a 45 degree angle at the bottom of the mag well when the trigger was pulled. I don't know what effect this would have but I know enough to understand that it aint good. I gently took the bend out of the mag break and reinstalled it. It was better but still held the mag in place. I bent it away from the mag closer to the top retaining pin and that solved the problem. The mag now drops out of the well very smoothly. Thanks to all of you for the good advice.

schmeky
February 18, 2009, 06:11 PM
I'll take all the credit . . .:D

burningsquirrels
February 18, 2009, 11:01 PM
my purposes are different, but i give a light dusting of silicone spray in the magwell.

TMann
February 19, 2009, 12:31 AM
Whenever I've bought a new CZ, I immediately to the CZ Custom website and purchase:

- a lighter weight mainspring
- a straight "drop-free" mag brake

These two items are very inexpensive, but make a world of difference in the feel of the gun.

Enjoy!

TMann

glassman
February 19, 2009, 06:07 AM
tmann Like you, I put a lighter main spring in it (14# if I recall) and changed out the grips to a thinner cocobolo version. I checked out czcustom but the straight mag break in their inventory is meant for the full sized 75. I don't think it would fit in my compact.

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