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Eustachius234
February 17, 2009, 10:53 PM
I'm looking to get a premium autoloader. My caliber choices are 9mm Luger & .45ACP, and my current considerations are the Sig P226 Navy, or the Kimber 1911 Desert Warrior. What would y'all get?

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Jason_G
February 17, 2009, 11:07 PM
What would y'all get?
The one that's not a Kimber *stirs the pot* :D

Seriously though, I'm sure lots of folks have Kimbers that have zero issues, but IMHO there are better 1911s for the money.

Between the two, I would get the Sig personally. You'll get different answers though.


Edit to add: I don't want the Kimber folks coming down from the mountains on me, I guess I should add that the folks that get good ones (which is the vast majority) really like theirs. I just have seen to many boo-boos that should have never left the factory, many on guns that are supposedly "custom shop" guns...

Jason

Quack
February 17, 2009, 11:11 PM
a different 1911

Eustachius234
February 18, 2009, 01:25 AM
Quack: what 1911 do you think is better than the Kimber?

TIMC
February 18, 2009, 01:30 AM
I'm looking to get a premium autoloader. My caliber choices are 9mm Luger & .45ACP, and my current considerations are the Sig P226 Navy, or the Kimber 1911 Desert Warrior. What would y'all get?

I'm with you, I would say those are great choices. I love my Kimber warrior and my P-226 blackwater which are for the most part the same guns you are looking at.

9mmepiphany
February 18, 2009, 04:51 AM
i'd avoid the Kimber too... if you're really looking for a premium gun without going high end production. the best bang for the buck in the 1911 market is a Dan Wesson

alot of folks like the 226 Navy, but it's really just an anchor etched on a regular 226...and serveral of them have rough triggers. one of the best Sig 226 models is the 226ST in 9mm but they're hard to find. a 226 Elite is more common and you gain a beavertail and their Short Reset Trigger. if you'd prefer a SAO pistol, a premium 226 would be the X-5 which is awesome...you can save some money by getting the Competition instead of the L-1

Jed Carter
February 18, 2009, 05:33 AM
I own the Sig p226 in both 9mm and .40 (with the drop in .357 Sig barrel), both have been 100% reliable and very accurate. The Kimbers are very pretty pistols, but if I had to depend on one or the other I would always choose the Sig.

Eustachius234
February 18, 2009, 06:51 AM
I just checked out the Sig P226 Elite & the Elite Stainless. Wow, the Elite Stainless sure is a looker. Do y'all think that all that extra weight on the Stainless makes it a pain to carry, or shoot?

Beagle-zebub
February 18, 2009, 07:32 AM
The STI Trojan is another 1911 at the Dan Wesson's price-point, and which also probably bests the Kimber in terms of quality.

Quack
February 18, 2009, 08:24 AM
STI Trojan & Dan Wesson IMHO are better guns than the Kimber. you can also get these in 9mm. 9mm 1911's are fun to shoot.

Ala Dan
February 18, 2009, 10:49 AM
"Better Than A Kimber"


Les Baer 1911~! ;)

schmeky
February 18, 2009, 10:57 AM
What Ala Dan said.

There is no way you can understand the Les Baer thing . . . until you get one. You can find excellent used ones for $1,400-$1,500, new ones around $1,600.

I recently picked up a NIB Les Baer for $1568.00 delivered. You cannot compare a Les Baer to a Kimber (I have a superb Kimber) or a Dan Wesson.

Apples to Tomatoes.

badbadtz560
February 18, 2009, 11:14 AM
where's the HK love here? :D

budsgunshop has a regular p226 on sale - CPO edition for like $530ish.

premium autoloader to me means HK or sig :D They tell me it's #1 and #2 on reliability.. but who knows.. not like i'm gonna roll'em around in the mud

benderx4
February 18, 2009, 12:21 PM
HK, Sig, or one of these 1911s:

Dan Wesson
Colt
Springfield Armory
Les Baer
Ed Brown

Wilson Combat
Nighthawk
Full Custom

PO2Hammer
February 18, 2009, 02:15 PM
I would get the Sig, just for the edge in reliability. (I've owned more than one of both brands, Sigs are great, I will never buy another Kimber product)

bondmid003
February 18, 2009, 04:58 PM
I've got a Springfield Armory Trophy Match 1911 and love it. Para Ordnance also makes a great 1911

verdun59
February 18, 2009, 05:15 PM
CZ 75b

gglass
February 18, 2009, 10:08 PM
One call to Kimber customer service would make choose any other handgun, premium or otherwise... I'll never own another!

rbernie
February 18, 2009, 10:27 PM
A Yost, et al. reworked Browning HiPower would seem to meet the true definition of a premium autoloader. :)

Jason_G
February 18, 2009, 10:38 PM
A Yost, et al. reworked Browning HiPower would seem to meet the true definition of a premium autoloader.
Most definitely.

Jason

CPshooter
February 18, 2009, 10:54 PM
where's the HK love here?
I got nothing but H&K love inside of me:) H&K = THE premium modern combat handgun

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Mike OTDP
February 18, 2009, 11:47 PM
Hmph. If you want the top of the line, get a Sig P210 or Pardini GT45.

GLI45
February 21, 2009, 07:36 PM
What's your definition of premium? For me neither Kimber or Sig fall into the "premium" category. Both are very good weapons, but I would opt for an STI. They make some very fine 1911s. If you want to go a step further you can look at some true custom 1911s from SVI, Les Baer, etc.

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