Turkish Mauser question


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xplicitfire
February 18, 2009, 12:01 AM
Went to a local gun shop and spotted a good looking Turkish Mauser for $250. Is that a good price for one? Kinda forgot what year it was but i couldnt take my eyes off it. Does anyone have any good links so i can do alittle more research before I pick one up? Is there a good site besides JG sales that have these for sale at a cheaper price?

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Ian
February 18, 2009, 12:27 AM
No, $250 is way too much for a Turkish Mauser, unless it has some special significance (which I doubt). I think they've pretty much all sold out from the original importers, but you can still find them on forums or classified ads for $125-$150 (less, not too long ago).

xplicitfire
February 18, 2009, 02:13 AM
Thanks, as for the mausers go, is the Turkish a good one compared to others? I dont really want to spend that much just because i fell a victim to the economy and probably wont have a job in the next couple of months

az_imuth
February 18, 2009, 08:37 AM
The Turkish Mausers were selling for $39.95 a few years back. The ones I received had excellent bores, but the wood needed some attention. They seem to be very accurate rifles if you can accustom yourself to the sights. They are one of my favorite surplus rifles to shoot, but I feel that the price you mentioned is at least double what a decent one should bring today.

Bill B.
February 18, 2009, 09:38 AM
Went to a local gun shop and spotted a good looking Turkish Mauser for $250. Is that a good price for one?

If it is the carbine buy it! It will make you money ...........

WardenWolf
February 18, 2009, 09:54 AM
I still regret letting a Turk with beautifully restored wood go for $250, though. A master woodworker had fixed the stock and made it just gorgeous. That was the exception, I'd say. It was worth it. Easily.

Olympus
February 18, 2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks, as for the mausers go, is the Turkish a good one compared to others? I dont really want to spend that much just because i fell a victim to the economy and probably wont have a job in the next couple of months

Sounds like you should really pass on this then. Not only is the price too high, it doesn't sound like you're in a situation to be spending more money than something's worth. The good thing about the Turk Mausers are that they're one of the most commonly found, so passing on this one won't be the end of the world. There are a lot more of them around. Pick up a Shotgun News and you can usually find them a lot cheaper.

NCsmitty
February 18, 2009, 10:51 AM
A Turkish Mauser is more than just one type. They consist of a varied selection that starts back when Mauser first offered their firearms to the world.
Here's a link to a site that will explain the differences. Go to the bottom and make your choice of knowledge base.

http://www.turkmauser.com/

I have made a few custom rifles from K.Kale versions of Turks. I thread Remington take-off barrels to fit.
IMO, $250 is a little high for a standard Turk. It would have to be an above average condition rifle.

NCsmitty

CZguy
February 18, 2009, 01:45 PM
Sounds like you should really pass on this then. Not only is the price too high, it doesn't sound like you're in a situation to be spending more money than something's worth. The good thing about the Turk Mausers are that they're one of the most commonly found, so passing on this one won't be the end of the world. There are a lot more of them around. Pick up a Shotgun News and you can usually find them a lot cheaper.

Sounds like good advice to me.

Duke of Doubt
February 18, 2009, 03:03 PM
ANTIQUE Turk Mausers, such as the Model 93, may well be worth the $250 and even significantly more, in some markets. Particularly nice Model 38 Turk Mausers MAY be worth $250 or more, as the walnut can be truly exceptional (and the 38 is large-ring). Those of us who stocked up on Turks a decade or a little less ago are reaping the benefits, now. An old Century 6-fer-a-hundred, after a lot of cleaning and polishing, can easily bring $250 today if marketed correctly. You should see the circassian on my 1940 Ankara re-arsenal. I've been offered $500 for it, having paid $41 back in 2000.

Turks have come into their own, finally.

Olympus
February 18, 2009, 04:02 PM
Odds of it being something like that are pretty rare. I'd say it's more likely a run of mill "dirty Turk". In which case they can be found easily and cheap.

The best thing would be for the OP to take a look at it and write down what is stamped into the action. We can all make a better guess as to its worth after that information.

xplicitfire
February 18, 2009, 10:11 PM
Sounds like you should really pass on this then. Not only is the price too high, it doesn't sound like you're in a situation to be spending more money than something's worth. The good thing about the Turk Mausers are that they're one of the most commonly found, so passing on this one won't be the end of the world. There are a lot more of them around. Pick up a Shotgun News and you can usually find them a lot cheaper.]

Yea your kinda right on this one, but it might or might not happen and i recently got married so I'm going to see alittle more on my tax return then what I usually get so i figured I would get me something to spoil me in this time

paradox998
February 18, 2009, 10:34 PM
Beware, first it is a Turk, then an Persian, Brazilian, Czech, Swedish, K98's, Yugos, and it never ends. In serious cases it can lead to C96 broomhandles and Lugers. In the world of Mausers turks vary a lot. Look for a Persian or a Swedish M96. My 1903 Swede is amazing.

mordechaianiliewicz
February 19, 2009, 03:12 AM
I can find them for around $100-$150 in my neck of the woods. I don't see a reason why one would have $250 slapped on the price tag.

Not for the full length version.

Interceptor_Knight
February 19, 2009, 04:14 AM
I look at it as a bird in the hand type of deal. Shipping is not free and they are getting harder to find at gun shows. Condition is everything. If it is a good shooter with a nice bore and the stock is not all busted up, it may be worth it for you to get.

Olympus
February 19, 2009, 11:44 AM
I'd recommend taking a look at the local gun shows. In my area, Turk Mausers are a dime a dozen at the shows. But again, if you're happy paying that for it then I'm not one to judge. Are you dead set on a Turk? For that kind of money, you can get a better quality Mauser in my opinion. VZ24s, Swedes, etc.

jamesb
February 19, 2009, 05:23 PM
I think that is too high for a Turk unless maybe it is a special one or has documented history. Another thing to consider about the turk mausers are they are in 8 mm mauser and the cheap surplus 8mm mauser has all but dried up.

skeet king
February 19, 2009, 07:37 PM
I was going to order a Turkish Mauser but when I got to hold one, it felt heavy in the front. Instead I picked up a m48 for 300 bucks, I know I got ripped off, but that rifle is so fun to shoot

Olympus
February 19, 2009, 08:57 PM
Instead I picked up a m48 for 300 bucks

Ouch! :what:

CZguy
February 20, 2009, 12:37 AM
Instead I picked up a m48 for 300 bucks, I know I got ripped off, but that rifle is so fun to shoot


Wow............PM me if you need anymore firearms. :D

cracked butt
February 20, 2009, 01:01 AM
The only Turk that I would pay close to$250 for isn't really a turk, but a 'turked' 98/22. They used to sell for around $100 (bought 2 of them at that price)and there weren't really that many of them made, oh and they are on average probably the most accurate mauser in 8x57 ever produced.

I've seen M38s locally for around $150 over the last year. It would have to be in exceptionally good condition for me to pay that much.

xplicitfire
February 20, 2009, 09:40 PM
So compared to the other models out there are turks pretty good? I'm waiting for the next gun show to see if there are any good ones that i can see. i havent had a chance to go back to the store where this one was to check out the markings on there. I just got a m44 so I kinda got hooked to the old war guns now.

CZguy
February 21, 2009, 02:19 AM
I just got a m44 so I kinda got hooked to the old war guns now.

Then you might want to check out the CMP.

http://www.odcmp.com/

Olympus
February 21, 2009, 10:35 AM
So compared to the other models out there are turks pretty good? I'm waiting for the next gun show to see if there are any good ones that i can see. i havent had a chance to go back to the store where this one was to check out the markings on there. I just got a m44 so I kinda got hooked to the old war guns now.

The Turk Mauser won't be the first choice of many of us. I would consider the Turks to be on the lower end of quality. Granted, they're still good guns, but the ones I listed previously are considered by many to be better quality.

And just another thought, but have you considered the availability of ammuntion? If you reload then it's not much of a concern. But in my area, and other areas around the country, the supply of suplus 8mm ammo has essentially dried up. There are commercial loads available, but they are really pricey.

Duke of Doubt
February 21, 2009, 11:13 AM
Since the Turks originated in Germany and Czechoslovakia, I'd say quality is pretty good. They were reworked to greater or lesser extent in the Turkish arsenals, but when I opened my "M38" up, it was pristine under the wood (even had the original grease in there -- odd). Mostly they were just remarked, with brass cleaning rods swapped, the bolts mixed up, and assorted minor boogering.

cracked butt
February 22, 2009, 02:33 AM
Turk quality is all over the place. They range from really nice examples, to something that looks like it was dragged across the country behind a camel, repaired with bailing wire and with excessive headspace to boot. The M38s were made in Turkey but as stated previously, a lot of turk rifles were made in Germany and Czechoslovakia and may have been rearsenalled many times over.
The Turks also got creative with their rearsenalling practices- one of them was to cut a counterbore into the front of the receiver to hold the handguard in place. These aren't very common, but I wouldn't fire one if I found one. Most of the Turks with the exception of some the the CZ rifles are either small ring mausers, or large ring mauser 98s threaded for small ring barrels.

Olympus
February 22, 2009, 11:57 AM
My advice is to just do so more research online about the various types of Mausers, because there are many variants. Find a couple that you favor more than the others and just go on the hunt for them.

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