HELP mom jumped the gun and bought a beretta 3032 tomcat


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Dimis
February 18, 2009, 02:29 AM
ok so before i could take her shopping she went on her own and got convinced into buying a beretta 3032 tomcat with crimson trace grip but its the BLUED version not the INOX now ive read review after review and post after post of the frame cracking so i dug up everything i could find and noticed that beretta has recently changed the model a bit and that the NEW blued version is the same size as the INOX do they still have this issue?
i googled pics of the 3032 and found that the older ones (that i assume had the cracking problem) had a wire style trigger gaurd where the one she bought has the thicker more traditional style just like the INOX has always had (to my knowledge) has anyone seen or heard anything about them remedying the problem? other than just simply replacing models that break because i dont want to wait 6 months to get a new one from beretta and she got this as a defense weapon

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Dimis
February 18, 2009, 10:09 PM
wow thanks for everyone jumping right on this one

CPshooter
February 18, 2009, 10:17 PM
So did someone send you a pm with helpful information, or were you just being sarcastic since nobody helped?

I wish I could help you, but I don't have any knowledge on this topic. C'mon somebody help this guy out!

2RCO
February 18, 2009, 10:26 PM
Bump--I know next to nothing about the Tomcat.. Sorry for no help but bump.

okespe04
February 18, 2009, 11:39 PM
My brother had an older one, we shot it a lot, was a decent little gun. He traded it in for $150 towards a new a Ruger sp-101. That's all I know

DaBull
February 18, 2009, 11:58 PM
Did she say she got convinced into buying it, or is that your conclusion?

For whatever reason, a good number of women I've taken gun shooting & shopping choose something like that, even after hearing the pros and cons of different cartridges. The last girl I took shooting said it was a .22 or nothing for self defense. Maybe the Tomcat is the right gun for your mom...and anything else will just gather dust.

nra-life-member
February 19, 2009, 12:04 AM
try over here..

http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/index.php

These guys are the experts..

makarovnik
February 19, 2009, 12:43 AM
The tomcat has had a solid type trigger guard for a long time. It's the Bobcat that has the sheet metal (thin) trigger guard (model 21A).

Dimis
February 19, 2009, 12:56 AM
yea she chose the tomcat because of convenience (the tip up barrel and not haveing to rack the slide due to the double action trigger) and the 32 caliber is fine by me i dont need a S&W500 in her hands id never get her off the ground my problem is im afraid she spent her (hard to come by these days) money on a gun that will fail after a few hundred rounds
as for collecting dust moms a shooter shes shot alot in her lifetime but the majority of things shes owned were due mainly because dad had them well he passed away last november and she felt the need to own something she could handle and basicly went in and got a beretta ONLY on the fact that beretta was supposed to be a good brand when she told me what she got i was excited for her because i too like berettas but as i said in my OP i found ALOT of bad frame cracking issues posted all over the place and that has me worried
i mean its pretty scary when you do a search for magazines for a gun and all google has popping up are forums about "the worst gun i ever bought" or "frame cracked on my tomcat and slide flew off"
i mean come on would anyone want there mom having a slide to the forhead? or even worse a gun that fails tragicly when its really needed?
if its a good gun its 100% fine for her and believe me it wont collect dust but it HAS to work when its a home defense gun even if she got a .22 its pointless to own a $600 chunk of metal that you have to throw at your attacker

lanternlad1
February 19, 2009, 01:07 AM
It sounds like you're not giving your mom any credit. She picked the gun herself, its what she chose, its what she'll carry and/or shoot. I find its always best to make your own decisions in life. Your mom made hers. Don't worry about the gun until something actually happens.

okespe04
February 19, 2009, 01:13 AM
You will find all kinds of horror stories about just about every model of gun out there. The tomcat is a solid little gun. Tell her to shoot it lots and keep it clean. Should last a long time.

DaBull
February 19, 2009, 01:32 AM
Your mom's lucky to have you looking out for her. Keep up your research and use it to watch for anything that MIGHT develop. Maybe you could help her clean it after she takes it to the range...and take the time to check it over for cracks or excessive wear. Hopefully, nothing ever develops and she'll have a gun she loves having around...and you'll trust it and be happy she has it around too.

sm
February 19, 2009, 01:47 AM
Mom is a big girl, she can handle herself.

I actually commend the lady for going out and getting a gun on her own, I really do.
It sounds to me she tried a few, found the Tomcat to her liking and bought it.
This means she will learn to use it, and carry it, which is the objective.

Beretta will stand behind their product if and when she has a problem.

The reality is, females have always managed to survive in this world, without men around.
I mean who kept the home fires burning, and took care of everything, when the boys went off to war throughout history?




...don't forget that SIGs rust, 1911's jam, USP's break firing pins, Delta Elites crack their frames, and Berettas break their locking blocks right before putting the back half of the slide through your bridgework.

The faster most folks realize that all guns suck, the happier they'll be.

-Tamara

glassman
February 19, 2009, 05:20 AM
I have a horror story like many others but don't need to bore you with the details. Long story short, I had to send my tomcat in for repair and they sent me back an Inox version. Make sure your mom uses FMJ rounds instead of JHP. The hollow points are a tad shorter and may cause rim lock. 60gr Fiocchi is a brand I see discussed quite a bit. Hope this helped. Oh, tell your mom to be careful of how she places her off hand, especially the thumb, in her grip. The tomcat tends to bite.

PRM
February 19, 2009, 07:25 AM
My step-son got his CC and carried one for a couple of years before trading up to a bigger gun. He liked his, had no problems. You can find people who have had problems with any gun. It is easy to find a few post verses the thousands of guns that are out there. If you are stiil concerned, talk to Beretta Customer Service, if there were significant problems, there would most likely be a recall or some information available on your model/serial range. I'd say shoot it and enjoy it, the gun may never have an issue. If it does, Beretta will stand behind it.

Radagast
February 19, 2009, 09:14 AM
Mine broke it's firing pin after a little dry fire while using a fired case instead of a snap cap. The double action trigger pull was truly the worst I have ever tried, worse than my WWII dated Webley, the single action was heavy, but crisp, but broke so close to the frame that it was hard to bring my finger all the way back.
Accuracy was exceptional for a pocket pistol.

Mine was a cute toy but a complete waste of money.

It's your mothers gun so if she is happy with it, good. Get her to actually shoot it though. She may change her mind.

Also I'll second the Beretta forum referral. Lots of reviews of the Tomcat there and lots of complaints too.

oldFred
February 19, 2009, 08:43 PM
It's all about "shock and awe" with your mom. Oh and that lil Beretta is a fine chunk of metal. Mine has a Northern Arms 22lr mini revolver with 1 inch barrel. The barrel is so short and the report is so loud, she would scare the daylights out of any goblin on the wrong side of that gun! ;)

Dimis
February 19, 2009, 11:17 PM
thanks for the support guys i just didnt want mom waisting her money is all
we shot it today and it seems all is good we went back to the house and i showed her how to take it down and clean it
slide bite shouldnt be an issue since she holds her off hand either under ger gripping hand or on her own wrist
i must say its a nice little gun after i fired it a few times the crimson trace lasergrip fit even my bear paw of a hand pretty good and a normal grasp on the gun activates the laser for both of us so she feels safer knowing its a point and click type of thing
thanks for the ammo info we practiced with remington FMJs and a few hornady customs the customs didnt seem to jam even though they are hollow points

thanks to everyone just gotta look out for her now that dads not there to do so

351 WINCHESTER
February 19, 2009, 11:41 PM
Beware that that gun will rim lock with hp ammo due to it's shorter length. The .32 acp is a semi rimmed ctg. and it's just a matter of time before it rimlocks on her. Been there done that. It's fine for her to put a h/p in the tube and one on the top of the mag with the rest being fmj.

Jed Carter
February 20, 2009, 05:01 AM
Way to go Mom, it has been my experience that the mini beretta's function more reliably if you leave the magazine one short of full.

MT GUNNY
February 20, 2009, 09:49 PM
I hope you didn't immediately tell her she Bought a lemon or a gun that would Break. If you Did she will now Second Guess that Firearm From Here on out. If you Didn't Keep your Trap shut and be a good Son! :)

glassman
February 21, 2009, 07:28 AM
it's just a matter of time before it rimlocks on her. Been there done that.
Just a word on the jhp vs fmj thing and I'll butt out. Somewhere on this forum there is a comparison that shows that the hollow points do not expand to any significant degree and the conclusion drawn was that penetration is more important than expansion. As discussed ad nauseum, shot placement is key.

AirForceShooter
February 21, 2009, 08:17 AM
It's her choice
She paid for it

Shut up.

AFS

searcher451
February 21, 2009, 05:53 PM
A quick search on this forum will tell you much about the overall quality of the Tomcat, along with the various experiences of the many forum members who have owned one through the years, myself included. Some folks like 'em a lot. Some folk's don't like 'em much at all. I had one that crapped out after 66 rounds, but that's not to say that yours will ... or that you wife won't be perfectly happy with her choice of firearm. My wife has a Tomcat and considers it to be her favorite gun.

paradox998
February 21, 2009, 07:41 PM
I bought a new Tomcat about a year ago. Same model you are discussing, blued, crimson trace, etc. I loved the look of the gun. Took mine to the range, fired about 60 rounds and the frame broke. Returned it to Beretta and they sent me a new one. Another 60 rounds, another frame crack. I was careful to use proper ammo. Sent the second one back and Beretta sent me an 92fs. I replaced my Tomcat with a Keltec p3at and a Bersa Thunder. I would not depend on a blued tomcat.

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