Eatin' Crow (literally)
Futo Inu
October 2, 2003, 11:45 PM
Popped one of these couple days ago with .177 pellet. Now I'm thinkin I shoulda eaten it instead of just tossing it - ya know, making use of nature's gifts - plus it was much bigger than I thought, once I picked it up - prolly some good meat in there. These any good? Recipes?
[BTW, game call tapes work equally well in the city, out the back window of the house. :) ]
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Kcustom45
October 3, 2003, 12:46 AM
I don't know about your area, but around here crows are a big carrier of the West Nile virus. If I shot one I wouldn't go near it.
Also I think they eat carrion and trash.
dakotasin
October 3, 2003, 06:48 AM
i've seen crows often enough perched on the roadside eating something that has been ground into little more than a grease spot on the road... i've seen them eating skunks, too. add to it the west nile threat (huge around these parts), and they get treated much like a prairie dog.
Bigjake
October 3, 2003, 07:38 AM
ick.... crow... naaa, i've seen what they eat! theres a simple solution to your problem though, just use enough gun so that when hit, mr crow will just explode. no bird left = no waste of "natures gift" :evil:
Larry Ashcraft
October 3, 2003, 01:29 PM
Any bird can be eaten in a survival situation, but some are better than others. ;) I don't think I want to try crow unless I'm starving.
BTW, we have magpies around (same family as crow). The cats and dogs even avoid them.
4v50 Gary
October 3, 2003, 03:12 PM
Sorry but in all my readings of the Revolutionary War, I haven't found the British recipe for crow. I guess you cook it like a chicken but if it's going to be tough, I'd stew it.
Smoke Rizen
October 3, 2003, 04:47 PM
That's where the old "Eat Crow" adage comes from. I'd put it right up there with root canal's and getting kicked in the crotch!
Frohickey
October 3, 2003, 06:29 PM
Crowbusters.com (http://www.crowbusters.com/recipes.htm)
I didn't know that hunting crows was regulated via international treaty (with Mexico).
I had thought that they were vermin.
Combat-wombat
October 3, 2003, 06:39 PM
You might be a redneck if...
BadWolf
October 3, 2003, 06:45 PM
I read the Little House series of books by Laura Ingalls Wilder and I recall reading that one time "Pa" had to go thin out the crows attacking their crops with a shotgun. And being that food was a little short anyway, "Ma" inventively used the crows to make chicken pot pie...or in this case crow pot pie? Supposedly Pa even asked "where did you get chicken?"
But if they are carrying diseases and such... maybe it would be best not to eat them afterall?
Futo Inu
October 3, 2003, 07:21 PM
Lol - awww, lots of animals eat carrion and they're still good eatin. Virus is another matter though. In any event, seems like the consensus is "only in a survival scenario."
Sean Cloherty
October 3, 2003, 11:03 PM
I recall reading in some survival manual (SAS I think) that you should boil the carrion eating birds 1st before roasting them in order to kill anything that could harm you.
C.R.Sam
October 4, 2003, 01:47 PM
And...if you are at significant altitude, unpressurized boiling will not kill many bacteria.
Dutch oven or such with weight on lid will get the temp up.
May also put lid in orbit.
If crow around, should be better eatin around also.
Sam
Joe Demko
October 4, 2003, 02:11 PM
crow casserole (http://bertc.com/crow_casserole.htm)
4v50 Gary
October 4, 2003, 03:12 PM
Wasn't it the War of 1812 where our "man" ate crow? I'd:barf: especially if the British cooked it. British cuisine isn't exactly something people visit England for.
Zeke Menuar
October 4, 2003, 03:16 PM
Shot a crow over in Central Oregon with my 270. 130gr Hornady SP traveling at 3140fps. Wasn't enought left to eat.
ZM
4v50 Gary
October 4, 2003, 05:00 PM
....shhhhh Zeke! Methinks they're protected.
Zeke Menuar
October 4, 2003, 08:23 PM
At the time I wasn't aware they were "protected".
Now if we could just remove the protections on seagulls...........
ZM
4v50 Gary
October 4, 2003, 09:19 PM
Seagulls. :barf: Sewer Falcons whose purpose on life is to poop on your head, your clothes and your boat. Thankfully the only "boats" I have are 1/1200 scale and they never see water.
Need help feeding the homeless? Let me kill seagulls and pigeons and rats. I'll dump them into a 55 gallon drum and drop them off for them to feed on.
Art Eatman
October 5, 2003, 08:47 AM
Back in the late 1960s or early 1970s, the US signed some sort of migratory bird treaty. It was not until after the treaty was signed and ratified that it was discovered that the biological description of the protected bird included--unintendedly--the crow. Another governmental Oopsie...
So, the only legal way you can shoot a crow is when you're protecting a farm crop. They're a problem for corn and pecan farmers.
Art
Al Thompson
October 5, 2003, 09:04 AM
Art, we have a set season here in SC.
Art Eatman
October 5, 2003, 10:40 AM
Hmmm, good, Al. Maybe there's been some modification in the treaty? I dunno; probably I'm behind the curve--as ususal. :)
Or is it possibly tied to "crop season", coinciding with the time of likely predation on farmers' crops? I guess the Wildlife Agency folks oughta know.
Art
Cadwallader
October 5, 2003, 10:55 AM
We have a long season (shotgun only, booo) on crows here in WI as well. Ravens are protected. Crow (and raven I assume) are all dark (very dark) meat, really not too bad if you skin, remove all fat, stew them long enough and then roast for a short time with onions, garlic, maybe some nice crumb stuffing, and plenty of bacon strips over the top of the whole mess. Of course, you could leave the crow entirely out of such a recipe and not miss it.:)
Joe Demko
October 5, 2003, 03:50 PM
There's a season on them here in PA, too.
Rupestris
October 6, 2003, 01:19 PM
What do you do with a dead crow?...
Put it next to another dead crow.:D
Dr.Rob
October 6, 2003, 03:55 PM
I think there is some medevil recipie for blackbird pie that is indeed meant to be made from crow meat.. but really why eat one?
I always thought the derivation of "let them eat crow" meant "we've starved them out, if they want to eat, kill the crows pecking at their festering eyes" sort of a grandiose insult passed between siege engineers around a walled city.
Crow feathers on the other hand...
Still you should be careful Corvids do carry West Nile, and here in Colorado I would NOT touch a dead crow, raven, magpie or jay, unless it was with a shovel to throw it in the trash.
hillbilly
October 6, 2003, 04:02 PM
In Arkansas, there is a set season on crows.
Not only is there a season, but the season is open only Thursday through Sundays, to make the season last as many months as possible.
Have to go along with the stupid treaty restrictions on hunting migratory birds only so many days of the years.
As for the concerns about West Nile..........well, mourning doves, the most popular game bird in the US, are also known carriers of West Nile virus.
How many of you guys are still eating mourning doves?
Here's a link for game birds, specifically mourning doves, with regards to West Nile virus
http://www.agr.state.ga.us/html/wnvqa.html
hillbilly
Selfdfenz
October 7, 2003, 11:39 AM
Years ago I seem to remember in an issue of Ducks Unlimited Mag. there was a comment about crows being raiders of waterfowl nests.
I seem to remember shooting crows ever since that day if the opportunity presents itself and the season is open.
Chairman Meow
October 8, 2003, 02:25 AM
Lobsters and Crabs eat rotting dead crap off the bottom of the ocean and they be tasty! :p Maybe crows ain't so bad...
Subby
October 10, 2003, 01:24 AM
The Chairman got a point. Not to mention the filter feeders like oysters/clams/mussels. God only knows what kinda garbage they got inside em.
Sub
Art Eatman
October 10, 2003, 09:27 AM
The bravest man that ever lived? The first fella to eat a raw oyster.
Art
243_shooter
October 10, 2003, 04:09 PM
Crow season is open in NY from Sept 1 to March 31, but only on Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays.. lol
I'd have to be pretty darn hungry before I'd stew one up I think...
On the other hand most of the local bear population lives of what would essentially be considered garbage, and they are pretty darn tasty!
Leo
kentucky bucky
October 11, 2003, 08:08 AM
If you are in a survival situation roast that baby and chow down....... if not, stay away!! If they were food, you wouldn't have to ask a bunch of strangers on the internet!!!!:barf:
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