Has anyone tried the Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 Matte Finish, 1" tube, Mil-Dot Reticle.
I was thinking of getting a fixed 10x for my Savage 10 FP, in .308, but am not set on a particular scope yet.
I don't have the money to go Leupold, or anything more than $300.
I am just researching this, so I can make a sound decision in the future.
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October 3, 2003, 10:04 AM
I have one for my M1A. It is the best piece of glass I own. The M1A is being bedded so while it's at the gunsmith It is corrently on my Bushmaster A3. get the book Mil-dot Master to go with it. It comes with a sliderule. great product.
BTW I'm A/D USAF also, I thought Spangdahlem was closed?
Iwent through there on my way to Hungary in 95 and all that was open was billiting.
October 3, 2003, 10:18 AM
Glad to hear you like the scope.
I think you are confused though, Bitburg AB, is the one that closed (1995 I think), Spangdahlem AB is still opened, and running pretty well.
I actually live in the old Bitburg stairwell housing, it's a bit of a drive on crappy country roads, but worth it to me.
October 6, 2003, 11:12 PM
I have the 3200 10x44 on my Remington 308 VSS. I had a Tasco Super Sniper mounted before. I REALLY like the Bushnell. Great glass and very sturdy so far. I think the Leupolds are great scopes, but hard to beat the Bushnell for the money.
October 7, 2003, 01:42 PM
I have one of my Savage 10FP (.308) and I really like it. Granted, I only took it to the range once so far, but that experimental trip including the new scope as well as my first try at handloading .308 (168SMK/42gr Varget) has led to nice 0.7" groups all day. I used to have a crappy BSA 4-14 Mildot and the 3200 is heads above it in quality and clarity. It's also rather light.
October 7, 2003, 04:29 PM
is $185 a good price on the 3200??
i found it here http://www.nkwholesaling.com/buriel32310x.html
October 8, 2003, 05:30 PM
Sounds right. SWFA has them for about $190.
October 15, 2003, 06:40 PM
What didn't you like about the Tasco? That was top of my list after researching.
October 15, 2003, 08:34 PM
There wasnt anything that I really disliked about the Tasco SS. But I do think that IMHO the clarity is better on my Bushnell than my SS.
Now that Bushnell purchased Tasco I wonder if they are still making the SS, or is SWFA still selling Tasco made scopes. If they are being made by Bushnell is the quality going to be better or worse?
October 23, 2003, 09:23 PM
Will the Bushnell 3200/10x40 Mil Dot work with 223 Rem 45 - 60 gr bullets? I think the mil dots are calibrated for 69 gr match bullets.
I have a NEF Handi Rifle with a 22" bull barrel and 12" inch twist and am looking for scope and ring suggestions for 200 yard varmints.
October 24, 2003, 01:41 AM
Mil-Dots are not calibrated to any load. They will work with any rifle/ammo combo. You need to take out your combo and make a range card with your selected ammo.
October 24, 2003, 07:40 PM
No specific mention of Mil-Dot, but Chris at SWFA believes the Bushnell Elite 3200 is better than the Leupold VX-II, but not as good as the VX-III: here. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?threadid=13092)
May 6, 2007, 09:16 PM
Just recently got one, but it hasnt got here yet, a buddy of mine has one & loves it, he has always been a Leupold guy.
We both looked through his Leupolds and his Bushnell 3200, both are kick ass.
Having after thoughts, the high end Bushnell 3200 looked just as clear as the Leupolds.
So now, Im a proud owner of one, just cant wait till it get here.
Mounting it on new AR build.
May 10, 2007, 12:49 AM
Mine came today, all I can say it is sweet, very nice glass, eye relief is 3.0 or 3.5". decent warranty as well.
May 10, 2007, 12:45 PM
The 3200 (http://www.swfa.com/c-184-bushnell-elite-3200-rifle-scopes.aspx) line overall is one of the best values in scopes. The 10x40 ($179.) (http://www.swfa.com/pc-8352-184-bushnell-10x40-elite-3200-rifle-scope.aspx) is often over looked by serious shooters because it has no parallax adjustment (http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5026&PN=1)which makes it difficult to use at long ranges. Bushnell is often stereotyped because their offerings span a wide range of quality. What you have to understand is that Bushnell, Tasco, Simmons, etc. do not own any factories; they buy from a handful of factories in a handful of countries. Many tasco, Simmons and Bushnells come from the same factory and are the same scope only changed up cosmetically. The Elite 3200 (http://www.swfa.com/c-184-bushnell-elite-3200-rifle-scopes.aspx) and Elite 4200 (http://www.swfa.com/c-185-bushnell-elite-4200-rifle-scopes.aspx)scopes come from one of the top factories in Japan, a factory that is not used by Simmons or Tasco or any other low end name brand.
Leupold (http://www.swfa.com/c-366-leupold-riflescopes.aspx) is often considered to be better than Bushnell because for the most part Leupold does not dip down into the low end scope market. Another contributing factor is that a consumer will purchase a $75. Bushnell and not be pleased with its performance, the consumer then has a bad taste and refuses to buy any more Bushnells. The analogy I like to use is one related to vehicles. If you bought Chevettes all your life instead of Corvettes you probably would not be too fond of GM. Leupold for years just had one level of quality and it was higher than most of their competition. This combined with their famous warranty has always made the big L king and the easy “go to” brand when people are discussing optics. Well they got caught resting on their laurels, then they got passed. They no longer have just one level of quality either. In an attempt to compete they offer the low end stripped down Rifleman (http://www.swfa.com/c-99-leupold-rifleman-riflescopes.aspx) ($175.00) and VX-I (http://www.swfa.com/c-89-leupold-vx-i-riflescopes.aspx) series all the way up to the new VX-L (http://www.swfa.com/c-1012-leupold-vx-l-riflescopes.aspx) and VX-7 (http://www.swfa.com/c-763-leupold-vx-7-riflescopes.aspx) series ($1,900.00).
In regards to the Super Sniper scopes (http://www.swfa.com/c-231-super-sniper-rifle-scopes.aspx). We own the SS line of scopes and are directly responsible for them since we took over. Old tasco era SS scopes have no warranty. Current SWFA production SS scopes have a lifetime warranty performed by Bushnell on our behalf.
One poster asked, “Now that Bushnell purchased Tasco I wonder if they are still making the SS, or is SWFA still selling Tasco made scopes. If they are being made by Bushnell is the quality going to be better or worse?” Remember what I said above about none of these companies owning any factories. Tasco and Bushnell are basically just names, when Bushnell bought tasco they just bought the registered trademark “tasco”. This will allow Bushnell to better cover the entire playing field and posture the tasco name for the lower end products as not to damage the Bushnell name. The SS scopes are still made in the same factory in Japan that they have always been made at. Due to the Navy contract and the subsequent NSN# the scopes can not be altered in any way for better or worse without the consent of the DOD, which we recently obtained so we could address some recurring issues prior to selling the Army thousands of units for use on their Designated Marksman Rifles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_marksman).