NJ One Gun a Month Vote on Monday


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ammoeater
February 19, 2009, 07:34 PM
Contact your state senators and ask that they oppose S1774, the NJ One Gun a Month bill.

You can find your senator's info here:
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/legsearch.asp

And info on this stupid bill here:
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/BillView.asp?BillNumber=S1774

Please call, email & fax your senator now. We need to squash this! :fire:

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Martyk
February 20, 2009, 11:49 PM
The NJ State Senate is preparing to vote on this bill this Monday 2/23/09. :cuss: Please reach out to your Senator and ask them to oppose this measure. :mad: See my other post on this subject. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=429611 Attached is a sample letter which you can use to get the message across. I know there are NJ residents out there who use this forum.

Don't sit back - Take action NOW!

Ohio Gun Guy
February 21, 2009, 12:04 AM
What's next?:fire: Lets see, you can go to church once per month, petition your government once per month, Not quarter soldiers for 1 day per month, must incriminate yourself except on the 15th of the month, Jury trials are scheduled for the 16th of every month, You can be tortured every day but once per month...... WOW that would be great......:barf:

1. Freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition.
2 Right to keep and bear arms
3 No quartering of soldiers.
4 Freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures.
5 Right to due process of law, freedom from self-incrimination, double jeopardy.
6 Rights of accused persons, e.g., right to a speedy and public trial.
7 Right of trial by jury in civil cases.
8 Freedom from excessive bail, cruel and unusual punishments.
9 Other rights of the people.
10 Powers reserved to the states.

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 12:13 AM
You don't have to be from NJ to express your opinion to our Govenor.

http://www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html

Remember what happens somewhere for the first time could be a roll model for something somewhere else. Domino effect... in this current climate.. we can not afford to let one domino fall !!

2RCO
February 21, 2009, 01:26 AM
Obviously this is fundamentally wrong and a violation of the 2nd Amendment so I am against it wholeheartedly. But I do have to ponder that if instituted in my home state it would save me alot of money since I have a "gun problem" it's hard for me to go a week without buying a new one of some sort.

Fburgtx
February 21, 2009, 01:34 AM
Maybe I'm naive, but couldn't this be challenged rather easily in court?? Someone who owns no other guns could buy a gun on the first of the month. Then, immediately send the gun back to the manufacturer because the gun is "broken". Attempt to buy another gun the next day (because your other one will be "in the shop" for several weeks), and you have a right and a need to protect yourself (thus exercising your 2nd Amendment rights). When you're denied the ability to purchase another gun, slap the state with a lawsuit.

I really don't understand why "conservative" causes have such a hard time figuring out how to use the legal system and lawsuits to its' advantage. "Liberal" causes have used this to great effect over the last few decades, and we would be wise to learn a thing or two from their playbook.....

M203Sniper
February 21, 2009, 05:07 AM
Good Luck brother your going to need it.

NJ went the way of the DoDo YEARS ago.

:banghead:

latisimusd
February 21, 2009, 09:23 AM
Lived there for 10 years of my life (job related) and was never so happy to move. There are many fond memories and friends there in NJ, however, there were too many negatives that now only seem to be compounding. Firearms ownership in NJ was always a "giant" pain. By the way Lautenberg was my Senator - jeez what an idiot (self appointed to the NJ senators throne).
I won't insult you by saying move - cause that is not in cards in all situations. Changing the extremely liberal legal "Nanny" NJ mindset will be difficult - Good luck on your quest!

Highland Ranger
February 21, 2009, 09:33 AM
Seems like the one gun a month bill comes up every month. They are going to wear us down on this one.

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 10:11 AM
Only if we let them Highland... I don't intend to

tbtrout
February 21, 2009, 11:40 AM
I wrote Senator Singer about this and he responded back that he is opposed to this bill. let's hope there are more like him.

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 11:49 AM
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/S2000/1774_I1.HTM

Duke of Doubt
February 21, 2009, 11:49 AM
I used to live in MD, which had one "controlled gun" per month (handgun and semi-auto rifle). If you bought a matched pair of Colt SAA revolvers, you had to wait a month to transfer the other one. No private sales, either.

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 11:51 AM
The operative word "HAD" jumps out at me in your post. Do they still have this ?

Duke of Doubt
February 21, 2009, 11:54 AM
Wouldn't know; I escaped MD over seven years ago.

wyocarp
February 21, 2009, 12:15 PM
Wow, I just read the bill. It is unbelievable to think that there are people that are anti gun as this. I liked the part that said, "No firearm or imitation thereof shall be placed in any window or in any other part of the premesis where it can be readily seen from outside."

I'm going to be putting a letter together. Just this past week we avoided an effort to take away some gun rights here in Wyoming. Thanks to letters and phone calls, within one day, it was changed.

I provided links and phone numbers for everyone on here. It would be nice if you did the same for those of us not in New Jersey.

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 02:40 PM
Thanks Wyocarp, and I absolutely will help out anyone else even if they are nor from NJ.

If you liked this bill, you should just read some of the stuff that's put together by some of the "Blue" politicians. It would make you vomit :barf:

Seriously, what people need to understand is that it takes a grass roots mobilization to make a change. We have the power to get what we want if we just get off of our asses and let the politicians know.

Why do you think they do what they do?? Because the opposing view is much more active and vocal and the politicians will follow the loudest voice. It's in our hands people, you need to realize this. And I'm not just talking about the 2d Amendment, I'm talking about our country.

woof
February 21, 2009, 03:37 PM
Psychology being what it is, seems to me this bill might well increase gun sales. If you are only allowed to buy one gun per month, the subliminal message is: you had better buy all you can while you can.

Duke of Doubt
February 21, 2009, 03:46 PM
You aren't kidding, woof. I used to keep a calendar in MD, to let me know when it was time to buy another gun. I'm quite serious.

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 03:51 PM
Your about 3 months late with that idea... Like it or not the prez has been the best gun salesman in the history of the US.

KBintheSLC
February 21, 2009, 03:51 PM
That sounds like legislation my wife put through for me... except my laws are 2 guns per year. Both sets of laws are unconstitutional, but only one is open for discussion.

Schleprok62
February 21, 2009, 04:13 PM
Silly me, but it appears that such a law would violate the New Jersey State Constitution Article I

"1. All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain natural and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness. "

Hmmm................

Martyk
February 21, 2009, 04:54 PM
Very good, however the line right below it says..

2. a. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security, and benefit of the people, and they have the right at all times to alter or reform the same, whenever the public good may require it.

************

it starts out all good but then.......WHAM

Dimis
February 21, 2009, 09:15 PM
im not a very political person outside of my state of delaware but maryland has had this law for a while now and is planning on expanding it to only 5 guns a year

eddie c-clamp
February 21, 2009, 09:33 PM
I'm right on the NJ/NY border....I feel your guys pain and hope NY don't follow suit with this bill.....Hopefully the new Sen Gillibrand will do the right thing.....we shall see...

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