TV/Movie guns: Walker; Tremors


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Mark Tyson
October 3, 2003, 08:33 AM
Okay my fellow gun nuts, help me identify two guns please.

1. The now defunct Walker, Texas Ranger show had Chuck Norris wielding a stainless steel automatic(finger firmly wrapped around the trigger in every episode). I contend it was a Taurus 100SS or 101SS. My friend says it was a Beretta 92 series. Which is it, or was it something else?

2. What's the gun used in the first of the infamous Tremors movies by Burt Gummer to finish off the monster that breaks into his basement? It's a old-school, double barrelled, side-by-side rifle with barrels the diameter of plumbing pipes.

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Zach S
October 3, 2003, 08:38 AM
1. I think Walker's early pistola was a Taurus PT92. Look to see if the safety is on the slide, if so, I'm wrong, its a Beretta. He went though a few different guns on that show and it was hard to keep up with what he had when.

2. Dunno. Sorry.

Black Snowman
October 3, 2003, 11:21 AM
1. I'm guessing a Taurus of some flavor but it did change. If he was really a Texas Ranger, and they carried similar gear to the border patrol (which they may not) I should be a Beretta but would have to have been refinished as I don't think they ever came in nickle.

2. They never say what it is and I'm guessing it's most likely a custom prop weapon since real double rifles cost into the 5 digits and it was a pretty low-budget flick.

MagKnightX
October 3, 2003, 12:10 PM
What Burt Gummer used was some sort of 8-bore elephant gun. Think 8-gauge shotgun on steroids shooting slugs.

garrettwc
October 3, 2003, 12:32 PM
Depends on the season of Walker you are referring to.

Early episodes he had a stag handled revolver in a cross draw holster.

Then went to a nickel PT92 as mentioned previously.

Last season or two was a S&W but not sure which one.

Never saw Tremors so no idea there.

Double Maduro
October 3, 2003, 01:37 PM
Reba McIntire with fully automatic weapons. Hell, I'd move to the desert for that.

DM

Carl
January 8, 2006, 10:49 PM
What Burt Gummer used was some sort of 8-bore elephant gun. Think 8-gauge shotgun on steroids shooting slugs.

Here's what he used.

http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Tremors

What a monster. I want one!

1911 guy
January 9, 2006, 06:54 AM
Posted by Double Maduro:
Reba McIntire with fully automatic weapons. Hell, I'd move to the desert for that.

You Betcha'!

CAS700850
January 9, 2006, 10:05 AM
Every close-up I've seen of Norris as Walker shows pretty clearly a frame-mounted safety. Taurus.

joab
January 9, 2006, 10:22 AM
Here's some trivia and a clue to the campiness of the series

Why did he switch from the revolver to the Taurus

armoredman
January 9, 2006, 10:38 AM
Because the Texas Rangers informed Norris they never carry revolvers crossdraw, and would he at least try to look like a Ranger.

mbs357
January 9, 2006, 11:27 AM
I always thought he carries some sort of 1911...hrm.

RRTX
January 9, 2006, 11:57 AM
The biggest firearm goof I ever saw on Walker was an M4 style AR with the collapsible stock on upside down, it's in that big display case of weapons that you always see when they are doing office scenes. The funniest thing was in later episodes there is a cop (i think) working with them in pretty much every episode that goes charging into any situation with just a little snub nosed .38 lol. Does anyone know what kind of weapon his partner carried? I think that is the only one I couldn't figure out, it's some sort of semi-auto but seemed to have a weird slide profile that I couldn't identify.

Inline_6
January 9, 2006, 12:06 PM
The biggest firearm goof I ever saw on Walker was an M4 style AR with the collapsible stock on upside down, it's in that big display case of weapons that you always see when they are doing office scenes. The funniest thing was in later episodes there is a cop (i think) working with them in pretty much every episode that goes charging into any situation with just a little snub nosed .38 lol. Does anyone know what kind of weapon his partner carried? I think that is the only one I couldn't figure out, it's some sort of semi-auto but seemed to have a weird slide profile that I couldn't identify.
His partner was played by Clarence Gilyard (Sundown in the movie Top Gun).

I always thought the gun he carried was an H&K P9S, http://hkpro.com/p9s.htm

...but there is a Walther that looks very similar too. http://www.civiliangunner.com/P5.htm

I believe it was one of those two... not sure which, but now that I am looking at the pics I want to say it was the Walther P5.

RRTX
January 9, 2006, 12:10 PM
I don't think it was the HK, that does sort of look like it but I remember the slide being a lot more squared off instead of rounded. They show two episodes of the show every afternoon during the week on Hallmark channel I think, if I'm around this afternoon I'll try to get a better look.

Edit: Yep I think it was the Walther

Red Tornado
January 9, 2006, 01:00 PM
I looked around some and it looks like the 8 bore was shooting something in the range of 1250 grains at 1500 fps. Ouch! Anybody want to figure the muzzle energy from that?

That's why they weighed 16 lbs or more. Go Burt! :)
RT

joab
January 9, 2006, 01:48 PM
Because the Texas Rangers informed Norris they never carry revolvers crossdraw, and would he at least try to look like a Ranger.In one of the episodes where he was running around in the woods a sniper shot him from a helicopter the bullet hit him in the hip breaking his revolver and knocking him down for a second.
At the end of the episode his crew presented him with a new Taurus ranger pimp gun

RaySendero
January 9, 2006, 10:39 PM
Here's what he used.

http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Tremors

What a monster. I want one!

Carl,
I remember Burt loading big brass rifle ammo in the double gun!
Shotgun? - What gives?

Cliff47
January 10, 2006, 10:08 AM
Burt Gummer just has to have the best equipped recreation room I have ever seen. And some people call him paranoid.....

Zundfolge
January 10, 2006, 10:25 AM
Carl,
I remember Burt loading big brass rifle ammo in the double gun!
Shotgun? - What gives?
Most of those big bore shotguns use brass cased shells as opposed to paper or plastic.

RRTX
January 10, 2006, 11:47 AM
Most of those big bore shotguns use brass cased shells as opposed to paper or plastic.

True, but what he loads are pretty clearly rifle rounds. When he is loading it he knocks the box over and you get a good look at them, he also refers to the gun as his "Elephant Gun" and I believe he or Reba even mentions the bullet weight at one point.

hksw
January 10, 2006, 01:30 PM
Carl,
I remember Burt loading big brass rifle ammo in the double gun!
Shotgun? - What gives?

4 and 8 bore double rifles are just that, rifles, hence the term 'rifle'. They launch huge single projectiles like any other rifle. (And, of course, shot.)

http://i.timeinc.net/fieldstream/images_large/bigbores.jpg

Old Dog
January 10, 2006, 01:32 PM
Burt Gummer is my hero.

His partner was played by Clarence Gilyard (Sundown in the movie Top Gun).
I always thought the gun he carried was an H&K P9S, http://hkpro.com/p9s.htm
Naw, Walker's partner Jimmy Trivette packed a SIG P-226. And actually carried it the way a real cop would ... strong-side in a pancake with a double-mag carrier.

I seem to remember a news story about Chuck Norris actually purchasing a number of Beretta 92FS pistols for the Texas Rangers. And I could swear that in later episodes (before "Walker" went back to the revolver) it appears that he was actually carrying an INOX 92FS instead of the bright stainless Taurus PT-92 he'd used previously ...

Inline_6
January 10, 2006, 02:15 PM
Burt Gummer is my hero.


Naw, Walker's partner Jimmy Trivette packed a SIG P-226. And actually carried it the way a real cop would ... strong-side in a pancake with a double-mag carrier.

I seem to remember a news story about Chuck Norris actually purchasing a number of Beretta 92FS pistols for the Texas Rangers. And I could swear that in later episodes (before "Walker" went back to the revolver) it appears that he was actually carrying an INOX 92FS instead of the bright stainless Taurus PT-92 he'd used previously ...
Trivette definitely had either the Walther or H&K I posted for a long while... he carried it in a shoulder rig. He may have switched to a 226 later, but I quit watching after a few seasons as they were all the same. //situation requires lethal force, Chuck holsters sidearm and goes "ninja" on some hapless crook who also happens to be well versed in martial arts... end episode// I can overlook certain realities in hollywood... but when practcially every show ends the same way I will find something better to entertain me. :)

belton-deer-hunter
January 10, 2006, 04:15 PM
if we are talking tremors you have to bring up the punt gun in the newest movie


"what is a punt gun? i dont know but it has something to do with killing ducks alot of doucks"

Carl
January 10, 2006, 04:18 PM
if we are talking tremors you have to bring up the punt gun in the newest movie


"what is a punt gun? i dont know but it has something to do with killing ducks alot of doucks"


This should answer it mostly.


http://www.thelegendbegins.com/weapons_of_tremors4.html

Carl N. Brown
January 10, 2006, 06:05 PM
Red Tornado:
I looked around some and it looks like the 8 bore was shooting something
in the range of 1250 grains at 1500 fps. Ouch! Anybody want to figure
the muzzle energy from that?

cal 1500 * 1500 * 1250 / 7000 / 32.16 / 2 = 6246 ft/lbs

(Ouch) i am not going to calculate the recoil energy

An 8 bore round ball would be 875 grains; 1250 gr must be a conical.

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