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191145fan
February 20, 2009, 05:14 PM
Several years ago I had a couple of Bulgarian Makarov's and I stupidly sold them. Finally I have been able to find a replacement. I found it at a local pawn shop.

A Russian Mak with a case, aftermarket grip and extra magazine. Probably paid too much for it but I couldn't resist it.

I dont here much about Mak's anymore. Are there any other Makarov lovers?

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TripleL
February 20, 2009, 05:41 PM
"Are there any other Makarov lovers?"

There's more than a few of them here: http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=46

Keeterbird
February 20, 2009, 05:56 PM
What did you pay, if I may ask?
My last one was $280.

191145fan
February 20, 2009, 06:00 PM
I paid $299

I thought it might be a tad high but they are hard to find around this area and I thought I had better get it.

Even if it was a little high I am please with it.

Chester32141
February 20, 2009, 08:36 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=5623634

steveracer
February 20, 2009, 08:49 PM
I bought two for $400 a while back.
Don't have any of them anymore....

06
February 20, 2009, 08:58 PM
Mine was $200. Want to add a larger safety as it is hard to move. My bud has one that has a safety nearly 1/4 inch high. Mine is nearly flush and difficult to move easily. wc

woad_yurt
February 20, 2009, 09:11 PM
My double post apologies.

makarovnik
February 20, 2009, 09:11 PM
I paid $180 brand spankin' new including tax. That was in 1999. I paid $160 for my TT-33 in 2004.

They are nice but I refuse to pay $300 for those guns now. If I want cheap I go with the Polish P64 for $150 and put new springs in. For $300 I would go with the Kel-Tec or for even less, a Bersa.

woad_yurt
February 20, 2009, 09:12 PM
Are there any other Makarov lovers?

I not sure I know how to answer that. Was it meant rhetorically, maybe?

Congratulations on your Mak-gaining!

ambidextrous1
February 20, 2009, 09:44 PM
I paid less than any of the above claims when I bought my Russian Mak, and shoot it regularly; it's a good, solid & reliable firearm. I like it very much.

Having said that, I wouldn't pay $350 or more for one. It's definitely a 20th Century firearm, considering size and weight. This is the 21st Century, and more comfortable .380 pistols are available for that price.

bluetopper
February 20, 2009, 10:09 PM
Comparing Makarov prices of a few years ago to todays prices are apples to oranges.
There hasn't been a Makarov imported into this country in a few years.

Pilot
February 20, 2009, 11:10 PM
Comparing Makarov prices of a few years ago to todays prices are apples to oranges.
There hasn't been a Makarov imported into this country in a few years.


Bingo. Makarovs are moving from a widely available gun that's a good value and inexpensive yet robust pistol for self defense and plinking to a collectors item. When I walked into a local gun shop that also does brisk national internet sales and saw a typical, blued, used Russian commercial Mak listed at $399, I knew things had really changed. The current political climate is also to blame.

woad_yurt
February 21, 2009, 09:53 AM
They are nice but I refuse to pay $300 for those guns now. If I want cheap I go with the Polish P64 for $150 and put new springs in.

I own one of each and the P-64 (with new springs) isn't in the same league as a Makarov, not even close. The P-64 works but the Makarov works well. One's a functional gun while the other one's a great gun.

Even at $350 for a used Mak, it's still a great gun. Folks merely got spoiled by surplus prices and now poo-poo the current prices. If Makarovs were built by Ruger, S&W, Beretta, or any other big name, people would be snapping them up without complaints about the price.

briang2ad
February 21, 2009, 10:07 AM
I own a Russian Mak, but got it for $175 back in about 03. Then it was an OK price, but on the rise. My regret is not picking up a perfect Mak for the same price a year later. BUT - IMHO, they are a BIT overpriced now. A brand new Bersa CC is a more attractive buy at about $320-350 than a Mak at the same price. The Bersa is more refined, and likely has a better trigger (maybe not). It is lighter, and in the case of the CC, smaller and a better carry. With the Mak, you get a little history, but again, they're a bit overboard on the price now. Granted, if you get a nice deeply blued EG or even a nice Bulgy for $300-350, it is still a decent buy by TODAY's inflated standards.

loop
February 23, 2009, 05:55 AM
There are advantages to living in a part of the country where people are mostly patriotic rednecks.

I bought a Russian Mak last year that was like new for $95 at a local pawn shop. A month ago I picked up a Bulgy Mak that showed a lot of holster wear, but hardly any shooting wear for $129 at the same shop.

I got a like new EG at another shop about a year and a half ago for $195. It is a safe queen though. It doesn't even have wear on the rails...

Fastcast
February 23, 2009, 12:41 PM
Saw an East German at the local gun show Sat.....Super clean, asking $345......arrrrrrrrg, temptation.....I left it behind. :(

Babarsac
February 23, 2009, 12:54 PM
I love my Russian Mak, after putting the rubber aftermarket grips on it fits my hand perfectly. I know Florida Gun Works has Bulgarian Maks for $199....if you dare :evil:

http://www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FG&Product_Code=091&Category_Code=FIREARMS+H+O

HisSoldier
February 23, 2009, 01:14 PM
Want to add a larger safety as it is hard to move.

You may be able to "spring" the spring a bit to make it easier, looks like it's staked into place, but maybe you can grab it with needle nosed pliers and pull it out, then bend it a tiny bit so it's a tad lighter in the detents.

HoosierQ
February 23, 2009, 01:19 PM
Actually you have joined a forum full of dyed-in-the-wool Makarov lovers! I personally have not had the pleasure but you sir are not alone here at THR.

Buddyof mine has an East German Makarov and it is one of his go-to guns.

jackstinson
February 23, 2009, 01:39 PM
I really enjoy my Bulgarian Makarov.
Jack

dobrzemetal
February 23, 2009, 07:04 PM
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g12/p0lice1234/100B0510.jpg

I LOVE my makarov, Its really my pride and joy. I do not have a Huge collection of firearms but from the few select pistols and rifles I have, it has been a constant companion and been 100% reliable and accurate. Best 300$ Investment I have ever made.

Stephen A. Camp
February 23, 2009, 07:37 PM
Hello. Yes, count me in as a fan of the Makarov.

http://hipowers-handguns.blogspot.com/2008/06/makarov-gem-worth-money.html

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=407298&highlight=makarov

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=385054&highlight=makarov

Best.

grimjaw
February 23, 2009, 07:37 PM
I paid $135 for my first Bulgarian Makarov in late 2004 / early 2005, plus shipping and transfer fee (which weren't that much). Got it from J&G Sales in Arizona.

I feel anything more than I've paid since is too much.

That being said, I still think they're solid pistols.

jm

Dorkfish
February 23, 2009, 07:47 PM
If the bore is clean and looks good (little to no wear or pitting), the finish is good, and it has been thoroughly cleaned, you picked up a good one.

Word of advice, find out if the model you purchased was a remanufacture by the armory or if it's old issue. Some armories mark the firearms that are remans. The CZ-52 for example, has a divot on the top of the slide, usually just forward of the breech. One diviot meets specs and accuracy on the first reman...thus 2, 3, 4 dots illustrate how many times it was remanned to meet specs and accuracy.

I've parted with 2 of my CZ's and regret it. The buyer actually let his dad shoot it...his dad laid claim to it after the first shooting session. Lost forever like my 1911 Champion.

I actually had my hands on 6 Russian Makarov's while I was deployed. Traded 4 NIB mini-mag lights for them w/ ammo, belt, and holsters. Wish we could have brought them home!

Just make sure you shoot S&B ammo through it, don't use the milsurp stuff since it's a pain to clean after shooting corrosive or semi-corrosive ammo.

blkbrd666
February 23, 2009, 08:04 PM
Are there any other Makarov lovers?

There's definitely one over on GunBroker!!!...excuse me while I go get something to dry the beer off my screen.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=122840256

dobrzemetal
February 23, 2009, 08:18 PM
holy smokes 1,200 Bucks? Was that Mikhail Gorbachev's makarov or something?

Chester32141
February 24, 2009, 09:58 AM
I found this Makarov Mag Loader on GunBroker and wanted to share it w/ y'all ...

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/123490000/123490338/pix20617296.jpg

http://www.gunbroker.com:80/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123490338 ...

I picked up 2 for $13 delivered ... ;)

Chester

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krs
February 24, 2009, 11:30 AM
I've got four East German Makarov pistols and wouldn't let the worst of them go for under $300.

They're a much better pistol than a Bersa - all solid forged steel, no alloy. No odd springs under the grip, no internal lock, and an overall feel of a quality piece.

I wanted to like Bersas, I really did. until I ran across a table of them at a gunshow. As far as I'm considerned a Bersa is a better looking hi-point.

191145fan
February 24, 2009, 07:47 PM
I have owned a Bersa and I wouldnt trade my new Russian Mak for a new Bersa and $75.

I am not saying the Bersa was bad just that I think the Mak is that much better.

crzbiker
February 25, 2009, 01:31 AM
quote"I love my Russian Mak, after putting the rubber aftermarket grips on it fits my hand perfectly. I know Florida Gun Works has Bulgarian Maks for $199....if you dare"

Went to the site and found CZ52's at 269(current price 159 everywhere) and Romanian TT33 at over 300 when it is available everywhere for a 100 less!
Couldn't find any Bulgarian Maks

loop
February 25, 2009, 05:26 AM
First one to offer $500 for my 95 percent EG Mak wins....

jjohnson
February 25, 2009, 08:47 AM
Yes, I bought the Russian "commercial variety" of the Mak, an IJ-70 Baikal, ten years or so ago. It's in .380 and has adjustable sights. My price was around $150.

Good Lord, the thing shoots like a house on fire :eek: is as accurate as my Glock 17, absolutely reliable with any load I've tested with it, handy, and solid. It's my CCW choice more often than not.

I'm not fond at all of .380, but it's cheap to load, really good premium SD loads are widely available, and I know that the MAK will deliver 9 of them right where I aim them with no malfunctions, so that's a big plus with me.

I don't have a higher rating to give than: "I trust it as my CCW," so by all means, I'm a Mak fan, too.

jon_in_wv
February 25, 2009, 11:58 AM
Makarov's are typical Russian firearms. They may not be pretty but they work like crazy. If I only had on gun I wouldn't feel bad with a Makarov. It accurate, reliable, and powerful enough to do the job. I wouldn't put it in the same class as my P7 but anyone carrying a Mak is well enough defended in my book.

Chester32141
February 25, 2009, 09:38 PM
The one modification I've made on all my Maks is to put a split key ring through the mag release to allow for easier operation ... you may need to find a very light weight but quality key ring but they're out there and believe me it makes all the difference in the world ... I can't imagine using one w/o it ....

Chester

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Beagle-zebub
February 25, 2009, 11:19 PM
There are advantages to living in a part of the country where people are mostly patriotic rednecks.

That brought a smile to my face. (And I come from a long line of such people. You should have seen my grandfather's scorn when he found out I was a Russian Studies major.)

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