Brown Bear 9mm ammo?


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Dollar An Hour
February 21, 2009, 12:13 AM
Any experience with this steel cased stuff? Is it underpowered or more likely to contain squib loads?

I understand it's made by Barnaul in Russia. Barnaul's rifle ammo is good stuff.

This would be practice ammo for my Glock 19.

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Dirtpile
February 21, 2009, 01:11 AM
It's OK. Dirty as all hell but it works.
I'm a little more partial to Golden Bear (brass plated steel case) since it's less likely to wear the extractor.

grimjaw
February 21, 2009, 01:52 AM
I didn't vote because the price has become jacked up so high I don't consider it a "value" anymore. But other than being exceptionally dirty, it does work fine for practice ammo.

jm

broken
February 21, 2009, 09:09 AM
i was reading a few years back in the posts on here of somebody saying the wolf,bear steel case was a soft steel and their glock and another pistol were fine after multiple thousands of rounds.no extractor wear.some somebody else had a extractor ripping through the cases but the 2 or 3 shops im able to visit every month sells the crap out of it when they get it,no problems.havnt seen brown bear 9mm in years.

bluetopper
February 21, 2009, 12:43 PM
If you don't reload why not. Ammo made at the Barnaul plant is the best Russian ammo there is.
I used to shoot a ton of it before I started rolling my own. No ill effects.

wcwhitey
February 21, 2009, 12:47 PM
I buy Barnaul ammo anytime I can, a good value, good for long term storage. Bill

wnycollector
February 21, 2009, 04:27 PM
I had great luck with silver bear 9x18 and .308 . I am currently working my way through 1000 rounds of brown bear 7.62x39. I would net hesitate buy any "Bear" ammo.

Keeterbird
February 21, 2009, 04:48 PM
I had a recent problem with Barnaul in my sig P6. It is the first problem I ever had and I have put about 600 down the pipe. I had a round and the slide did not put the bullet into battery. I had to force it out by pushing on the recoil spring guide. I was confused. A gun expert told me it was the steel case. The discussion that ensued seemed to go along those lines. I was convinced, until I got home and looked at the round. There was a score around 75% of the bullet. I examined carefully and the jacket was just a tad too thick on the bullet. I am back to steel cases.

putteral
February 21, 2009, 04:53 PM
My Ruger KP95 will not feed Brown or Silver Bear ammo reliably. It is the only ammo it won't feed. I use to buy it before I got back into reloading. It is quite dirty also.

KBintheSLC
February 21, 2009, 05:06 PM
The steel they use at Barnaul is very soft compared to any of the steel components of any modern firearm. I love their rifle ammo, so I assume their pistol stuff is good too.

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